6 Pop Culture Visionaries Who Get Too Much Credit
We all know that our favorite games, comics, movies and TV shows are probably collaborative affairs. There are dozens if not hundreds of people involved in bringing a successful franchise to life. But we as a culture just love the story of the creative genius so much -- one brilliant madman spawning ideas fully grown from his forehead, with no help or support from anybody -- that we heap tremendous praise on the rare few who manage to do it.
These ... are not those people.
#6. Star Trek: Gene Roddenberry

Gene Roddenberry is world renowned for creating the original 1966 Star Trek series, which grew over the years to spawn 11 (soon to be 12) feature films, more than 700 episodes of television, dozens of video games and countless books. Star Trek itself also gave birth to both the modern fan convention phenomenon and the concept of slash fan-fic. So ... thanks, we think?
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We can't help but feel a little abused.
Roddenberry was the first human whose ashes were taken into space, has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and even has an asteroid named after him.
We basically gave the guy dominion over space for making a sweet TV show, is the long and short of it. We assume he rules it with an iron fist.
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And, apparently, a plastic shirt.
Who Actually Deserves the Credit:
It's a sad fact of life: There's only enough room in the human heart for one Gene at a time. That's why you probably haven't heard of Gene Coon. He served as producer for the original Star Trek in its first and second seasons, wrote eight of those episodes, and then wrote another four for the third season. Among his contributions to the franchise are the Klingons, the Federation, Starfleet Command and the Prime Directive. He also wrote the episodes with Gorn (the lizard man), Khan, those half-black/half-white aliens who taught us that space racism is bad (again) and the inventor of the warp drive. Basically, if there's something you remember from old Star Trek that's not Uhura's miniskirt or Kirk's dropkick, Coon did it.
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"But the two-handed punch? That was all Shatner."
William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy have both called Coon the unsung hero of Star Trek. And without his over-arching structure and influence, Star Trek probably would've just been a show about unitard-wearing swingers screwing aliens across the galaxy. Which is ... kind of awesome, actually. We call dibs on the rights.
We shall call it: Sexual Predators Lost in Space.
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We wouldn't even have to change the leading man.
#5. Star Wars: George Lucas

Here's the general pop culture consensus on George Lucas: He sucks now, but he once wrote and directed the first Star Wars trilogy, which makes him another innovative, rebellious filmmaker whose creative fire has tragically guttered out.
But here's the truth: Lucas couldn't lose it because he never had it.
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Making prequel Anakin an autobiographical character.
Who Actually Deserves the Credit:
First things first: Lucas absolutely was the brilliant mastermind behind the Star Wars movie ... prequels. I through III? That was all Lucas. But IV through VI? The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi were directed by Irv Kershner and Richard Marquand, respectively, and both screenplays were written by Lawrence Kasdan. But that still leaves Lucas as the writer/director of Episode IV, right? That's the big one: The Star Wars that put the "Star Wars" in Star Wars.
But A New Hope wasn't entirely Lucas, either: A fellow USC film grad, Gary Kurtz, who first collaborated with Lucas on his breakthrough film, American Graffiti, was producer for both Star Wars and Empire. Kurtz did more than an ordinary producer, however: Beyond running the day-to-day operations of the films, Kurtz also ended up coaching the actors (which is, technically speaking, the director's job).
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Pictured: Gary Kurtz (left). Not pictured: George Lucas.
Even minor characters like C-3PO weren't the juice of Lucas' mindgrapes. Lucas originally wanted 3PO to be an "oily, car salesman type" rather than our lovably gay robot butler friend. If that character archetype sounds familiar, that's because Lucas would later get his sleazy salesman in The Phantom Menace, in the shape of the flying anti-Semitic stereotype, Watto. The actually likeable, not-racist version of C-3PO that we know today was largely thanks to Anthony Daniels. Daniels was originally hired as just a mime inside the gold suit, with someone else providing the voice-over. But actor Stan Freberg convinced Lucas to not use a different voice and stick with Daniels -- which is particularly remarkable since Freberg was one of the actors considered to replace Daniels' voice. That's right: A struggling actor actually had to step up and sacrifice his own livelihood just to kill one of Lucas' terrible ideas.
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If all these men had committed ritual suicide, we might have been able to avoid Jar Jar.
The man is like the original sin of filmmakers.
#4. X-Men: Stan Lee Invented the X-Men, But Only Kind Of

Stan Lee hasn't written much since the early '70s, so it's easy to say that he gets too much credit for modern classics like the X-Men. And easy stuff is great, so let's do that:
Stan Lee gets way too much credit for the X-Men.
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"That's fine, Cracked. My VD has a higher net worth than your whole damn magazine."
Who Actually Deserves the Credit:
While Stan Lee and Jack Kirby did create the core concept in 1963 -- teenage mutant superheroes living in a mansion helping Professor X fight Magneto -- their vision of the team was so unsuccessful that Marvel stopped creating new X-Men stories in 1969. They ran in reprints for a while, until the book was finally given to unknown writer Chris Claremont, who "transformed a single underachieving comic into the best-selling superhero franchise of its time." He did this with a host of new and reimagined characters, long, complex story lines, a fundamental shift in the book's focus on wish-fulfillment and so, so, so much mutant boning.

What does mutant healing do for his refractory period?
And Claremont did that for 17 straight years (Lee, by contrast, wrote X-Men for less than four). Before Claremont left the franchise in 1991, he started a second monthly X-Men series, and #1 of that series holds the Guinness World Record as the top-selling comic book of all time.
Excelsior!
... is a thing that Chris Claremont doesn't say, which also puts him one up on Stan Lee.
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We'll give Stan the edge in facial hair, though.








THE Gorn, thank you.
ReplyWow, i'm the only human being that actualy enjoyed ALL Six star wars movies.. -_-
ReplyYes. Yes, you are.
Given the way "Lost" ended, I think Abrams would be happy to not get any credit.
ReplySee, this is why I hate the Stan Lee cameo's in EVERY DAMN SUPERHERO MOVIE he's mildly responsible for. Okay, I get it, he came up with the concepts. Yay, I guess.
ReplyBut he just seems to love stroking his own ego and accepting credit for things. Every superhero comic lover I know has instantaneous orgasms when they see the cameos or hear the mere mention of him, when they should really be all over Claremont & the other Marvel writers/artists that made laughably dumb ideas into formidable franchises.
Jesus Christ you butt-hurt Star Wars fans.
ReplyEven fans of ALL SIX movies can admit that there is a difference... you mean you can't admit that the reason the original is still better than the prequels might actually have something to do with the people that helped Lucas?
You mean you can't look at Lucas' track record and realize, "Oh, this guy only made one thing really worthwhile and everything else he made sucks... maybe he's really not all that of a savant"?
What a bunch of fanboys. Had Lucas recruited writers/directors to make the prequels, the prequels would have been 100% better than his 'vision' without being fan-fic fantasy.
Also... dont' forget... when people ask Spielberg about that horrible... horrrible.... HOOORRRRible last Indy Jones movie, Spielberg shrugs off all responisibility to Lucas. Lucas is a one-hit wonder.
Now, his one hit happens to be a giant, 6 film franchise with a rabid fanbase, but its still the only thing that he will ever be known for. As far as actual film, screen writing and cinema goes... Lucas is pubic hair lying on the rim of the toilet of other filmmaker's bathrooms.
i think what you meant was, everyone that made the original trilogy amazing DESPITE Lucas trying to rub his feces all over it
"Also... dont' forget... when people ask Spielberg about that horrible... horrrible.... HOOORRRRible last Indy Jones movie"
Jeez, talk about butt-hurt fans.
I don't want to read 1000+ comments, and even if I did, the lack of a "show all comments" option makes this next to impossible. So, apologies if anyone already mentioned this, but what about the friggin' BATMAN? If what I'm reading on the various online -pedias is correct, Bob Kane basically came up with the name (and a version of the character that would be unrecognizable to us) while Bill Finger came up with, well, everything else. That is, everything about the character as he is known today. Knowing how Cracked feels about the Caped Crusader, shouldn't this be #1 on the list?
Reply.. plus, Apple existence is credited to .. umm .. whatsisname, but Wozniac was the the actual creative genius behind it. Whatsisname was merely the marketing guy.
Also, whatsisname turned it from The Open-Source Computer Anyone Could Modify into the paranoid, closed, impossible to change money-hole it eventually became. Which is why Woz left Apple in the first place. In a million years, I never would have believe that WINDOWS machines would end up being the ones amenable to re-design and modification. NEVER. Life sure is weird.
Akira Toriyama as tha manga-ka who invented the "Shonen" genre is one pop culture visionary who get way more credit then he deserves.I could go on a very detailed and thorough discourse on this but to keep it short since I dont think this is a very anime & manga aware place (no offense to anyone who is) but it was only but a flippin fluke of luck that I self-proclaimed lazy comedy writer (who very much prefers to remain a comedy writer) hit the big time when he tried his hand at an action story about a naive little boy with a tail for some reason who eventually becomes an unprecedently powerful alien family man.The story has a lot of plot structure flaws and inconsistencies.It's DBZ fame that makes up for a weak story.Heck,I'll even say the any of the first 3 Digimon seasons have much more sound plot flow and a way richer plot.
ReplyWasn't there a Cracked article a while back saying X-men was a rip-off of another comic?
Replythe george lucas thing is such a crock.
Replywith out george star wars would have never been made. he came up with the basic plot of the movie wrote a huge script for it and had tons of revisions for it he wrote and directed the first movie then handed the second and third off to someone else for directing and even if the screenplay for those 2 were writen by someone else it was still his story. that was used for the screenplay.
> ".. he came up with the basic plot of the movie .."
wasn't the basic plot of the movie a rip-off of Asimov's Foundation Trilogy?
I think if I was the mind behind Lost I'd let people think someone else wrote that s**t too.
ReplyAs much as Chris Claremont deserves credit for the New X-Men, Don't forget Dave Cockrum's contributions. He pretty much created all but Wolverine.
ReplySo were those Simpsons shorts that aired during The Tracey Ullmann Show Groening's or Meyer's?
Replydunno .. why exactly did those shorts need airing?
Actually Ralph McQuarrie deserves the credit for Star Wars. His paintings got Lucas in the door in the first place. This may have been mentioned and who really scrolls through comments to check and see?
Replyit doesnt matter that his paintings got lucas in the door the painting he did were still inspired by lucas he told ralph what he wanted to see and ralph simply went apone that
If I may peaceably put the Lucas debate to rest:
ReplyLucas creates the best movies AS FAR as he takes honest input from his friends.
Which is.. how it works for every filmmaker and film.
If only he wasn't surround by yes-men. If only someone high up would just say, "George, "Jedi Rocks" is stupid. We must fix the situation and re release the original version! It is our duty!"
I hope we can all agree on that without killing each other.
Thanks Cracked. I've really thought something was strange in Lost, but far too lazy to discover it. Lost is too good for Abrams, and now I can disconsider when people tell me that he is a good writer because he made it.
ReplyI knew about Lucas having nothing to do with the original Star Wras trilogy, too bad he did the prequels. Hell if he had made Episode IV: A New Hope, how did you not know that Cracked!?, Star Wars would have died on instant.
ReplyI am left in doubt about Groening, because his other show Futurama is pretty great, too. Stan Lee and Chris Claremont case is a bit different than the rest of them, because while Lee created the X-men, I think most people who actually read the comics (as opposite as just knowing the characters from the films, etc) know about Claremont.
Replyi think the problem is a cultural thing. We all expect heroes and villains as explanations for events in the real world as well as in comics and flicks. Anything significant happens - it all has to come down to a single glowing heroic, or dastardly evil, individual.
Reality is different tho .. the best creative leaders know how to manage a creative team. The people in the team are creative .. the leader knows how to get the best out of them .. but our culture says the leader gets the credit and every one else is forgettable.
This wasn't really a funny article, it was more of a whiny article.
ReplyRe: #4 - 'Stan Lee'...I've probably grown up as too much of a fanboy to state this objectively, but it's fairly common knowledge that Chris Claremont and John Byrne were the shepherds responsible for herding Stan's 'X-Men' flock for so long and so well until their early-90's mega-mainstream breakthrough.
Reply Hide All See All 3 RepliesI don't think I've ever come across any overview or interview of any parts of any of their histories which states otherwise or gives Stan undue credit in the manner that this article is stating.
You're confusing "common knowledge" with "esoteric knowledge".
Really? 'Cause Chris Claremont's lead paragraphs in his wikipedia page reads as follows:
"Christopher S. Claremont (born November 30, 1950, in London, England) is an award-winning American comic book writer and novelist, known for his 17-year (1975–1991) stint on Uncanny X-Men, far longer than any other writer, during which he is credited with developing strong female characters, and with introducing complex literary themes into superhero narratives, turning the once underachieving comic into one of Marvel’s most popular series.
During his tenure at Marvel, Claremont co-created numerous important X-Men characters, such as Rogue, Psylocke, Shadowcat, Phoenix, Mystique, Lady Mastermind, Emma Frost, Siryn, Jubilee, Rachel Summers, Madelyne Pryor, Sabretooth, Strong Guy, Captain Britain, Mister Sinister, and Gambit, scripted many classic stories, including "The Dark Phoenix Saga" and "Days of Future Past", and along with collaborators such as John Byrne, developed the character of Wolverine into a popular fan favorite. X-Men #1, the 1991 spinoff series premiere that Claremont co-wrote with Jim Lee, remains the best-selling comic book of all time, according to the Guinness Book of World Records."
That doesn't sound very "esoteric" to me :S
It not only connects him to the X-Men in the very first sentence, but lists all of the things credited to him in this article plus a few more, and even gives a list of well-known "X-Men"-related characters who he created.
Stan's, meanwhile, certainly *mentions* the X-Men, but doesn't overly focus on it in a manner that "gets way too much credit"...and that's the ratio that I've always been exposed to in magazine articles, interviews, and creators' own admissions ever since I've been a fanboy :S
Admittedly, Stan does get more mainstream media exposure, but in combination with his overall list of accomplishments as well as his more egregious showman-ship nature, *THAT* is certainly justified.
But solely in terms of credit for the X-Men? No way, proper credit is being given where credit is due...I dunno what channels you've been watching tho :P
Well, it's mostly common knowledge to the people who actually read the comics. The people who have just seen the TV shows and movies typically can't tell you who Mr. Claremont is.
Its the sad truth in hollywood. Some talented guy or girl creates the ideas while some sleazy marketer steals it [or inspired as they prefer to call it] from them and gets all the credit to the point that the one who originally created it is totally ignored or forgotten
Replytrue to some extent but as for george lucas he came up with star wars even if someone else wrote the screen play for 5 and 6 doesnt mean it wasnt his story