Did Luke Skywalker Die a Virgin?
[A Note Up Front: Let's ignore all of the Star Wars Extended Universe fiction and only focus on the movies. I'm sure the EU answers this and, indeed, every other previously fun-to-debate Star Wars-related question, but the books are not only non-canon, they're absurd and embarrassing and anyone who disagrees is delusional. I've never even read a single piece of EU fiction 1, so the following argument will be built using the tools given to us by Episodes I-VI.]
As for my question, it's a fairly clear one: Did Luke Skywalker Die a Virgin?2

Let's get into some objections.
This is Stupid. Luke, As an Adult, Probably Had Sex, Maybe Even a Bunch of Times
Well, for starters, we never see Luke having, getting ready to have, or recovering from sex. With all of his training, fighting, flying and handlessness, one wonders if he would have even had time for sex throughout the entire trilogy.
Well, We Also Never See Han Solo Having Sex- Should We Assume-
No. No. We're not worried about Han Solo, obviously, the man oozes sexuality. Every time Solo is on screen it's a safe bet that there's a trail of weird-headed slave girls sex-coma-ing in his wake.
Yeah. Han got all sorts of into that.
Plus, even if no one was having sex during the entire trilogy, when it comes to Han or any character that isn't Luke, we can assume that they did some celebratory plowing after the events of Return of the Jedi or, at the very least, we can refrain from speculating wildly about their possibly lifelong virgin status. But it's different with Luke.
Why Can We Assume Chewbacca had Sex but Not Luke?
For one thing, Chewie's a stone-cold pimp, he's like a deep-dicking carpet. For another, Chewie doesn't have to answer to the Jedi Code, (or, indeed, anyone). Jedi Knights, on the other hand, are Warrior Monks. Their clothes are simple, their homes are just basic shelters, they generally shun material possessions and, according to Wookiepedia, live under an overall "philosophy of non-attachment." It was believed, in fact, that attachments "lead to the emotions of the dark side." Officially, marriage was outlawed and it is reasonable to presume that sex was as well; sex can lead to attachment, or overpower judgment, or distract you, or lead to any other number of awesome things that the Jedi Council looks down on. The life of a Jedi is a life of celibate isolation, which is why Anakin and Padme had to hide and lie about their marriage in Star Wars: Episode Whichever Shitty New Star Wars Movie They Got Secretly Married In.

To remain fair, honest and incorruptible, a Jedi is instructed to practice restraint and self-discipline and to conquer all emotions so that he is beholden to nothing but the Jedi code. They're like Priests, except they're also like magicians.

As a sidebar, Jedi Council? Terrible idea. The last person you want to condemn to a life of miserable, awful celibacy is the impossibly powerful person who knows magic and laser-sword-fighting. I once went through a long dry spell in college and was so sexually frustrated that I punched a hole through my roommate, and I'm not even a space wizard.3
So, if Luke ends Return of the Jedi as a Jedi Master and the sole protector of the sacred Jedi way of life, it is reasonable to conclude that he never had sex after Return, right?
Sure. What About Before the Rebellion? Isn't it Possible that Luke Was Straight Layin' the Pipe All Over Tatooine?
That is, I suppose, a technical possibility, but I still find it incredibly unlikely. It doesn't look like Luke has a school, or a job, or any neighbors. He's just a lonely farm boy, and I'm pretty sure his only friend is Biggs.
"Wow, even I forgot I was in this movie!"
But let's entertain this. Let's look at Luke from A New Hope and evaluate him as a-- we'll call it a "man," for now-- and see how he stacks up against other men. Let's really look at him:

Calm down, it's not actually shit.
Pretty damning evidence, but looks aren't everything, even in the far distant future-past, so let's consider the guy underneath those looks. It's important to remember that, even though Luke eventually became a war hero/laser-jouster, for most of his life he worked as an apprentice to a moisture farmer. "Moist" is inarguably one of the most distasteful words in the English language; how the hell was Luke supposed to get laid by bragging about how he spends all of his time raking it? Or...squeezing it, or massaging it... How do you farm moisture? Is it milking? Do you milk moisture? Like with your hands?
Okay, Jesus, Stop
Like you're milking a cow but just moisture slurps out, just, like, the concept of moisture spills out all over everything, ruins your space pants, maybe lands in your stupid, feathered hair and now you'll never get it out and-
Please
So you see my point, then. Whatever the unspeakably uncomfortable method of sweaty moisture extraction is, Luke does it professionally.That is the family business that he is expected to one day inherit. Christ, at least Biggs had a cape and could grow facial hair.

Luke's balls never had a chance.
Also, even if there WERE a few, desperate chicks wandering around Tatooine, I think you're ignoring a fairly important detail about our protagonist in Hope: Luke is a huge pus-
Luke is a Huge Pussy!
That's right, yes. Watch this clip from Hope:
Luke's moisture-farm-pioneer Uncle Owen wants Luke to take two droids over to his garage. Luke responds "But I was going in to Tosche Station to pick up some power converters!" Watch that video. Or, if you can't, here's just the audio. Listen to it. Do it again.
Once more.
Is Luke not the whiniest fucking person you've ever heard in your entire life? Here are a few more quotes from Hope. When you're reading them in your head, imagine them as being delivered by a cat going through a cheese grater, and that's roughly the set of pipes Luke is handling.
"Well, if there's a bright center to the universe, you're on the planet that it's farthest from."
Beru: "Where are you going?"
Luke: "Looks like I'm going nowhere."
"I can't get involved. I've got work to do. It's not that I like the Empire. I hate it, but there's nothing I can do about it right now... it's all such a long way from here."
"I can't see a thing in this helmet!"
"I'm a big fat baby with Chiclets for teeth."
For the first forty minutes of A New Hope, everything Luke says is a whine. Everything. Plus he's just naturally unlikable. The second he walks into Mos Eisley Cantina, he hasn't even done anything and bar patrons already hate him. Immediately, he gets told "I don't like you" point blank by Evazan (the pig-faced guy) and some fish-monster with a scrotum for a lower jaw.
What? Are you shocked that this is a picture of exactly what I just described?
Some people are just naturally unlikable, and all of those people also happen to hate Luke. So, you've got a whiny, unlikable, moisture-gurgling, emo turd who-- in a universe with only, like, six women to begin with-- has to compete in the field of boning with this guy:

Would you have sex with Luke?
No, No I Would Not
No, of course you wouldn't, and it's safe to say that, as long as Luke was the Nerd Mayor of Wuss Mountain over on Tatooine, nobody else would either. I wouldn't be surprised if the sister-kissing he did in Empire was the first piece of action he'd ever seen.

OH, That's Right, Leia! Is it Possible Luke and Leia had Sex Off Screen Sometime in Empire Strikes Back?
Technically speaking, of course it is, but socially speaking, come on, man...
Just Answer the Question, This Doesn't Have to be Weird
Fine.
For one thing, Leia was never really into Luke, she only kissed him to piss off Han. Further, when L&L found out about their sibling status, you only have to look at their reactions to know that they never sealed the deal. To put it bluntly, when they find out they're related, Luke and Leia do not respond like a brother and sister who just realized they'd accidentally boned at one point would. They're both totally okay with it, which would not be the case if Luke had gone "lightsaber deep in Alderaan places,4" if you know what I mean. Think about it. If someone from your sexual past came up to you and said "Hey, I just found out we're technically, legally, literally and unquestionably twins," would you be cool about it? No, you'd lose it, you'd flip out, there would be vomiting. Luke and Leia are downright happy about how related they are, they couldn't be more thrilled, and that simply isn't how sticking siblings react to that news. This:

...is not the face of a woman who secretly worries that an inbred, flipper-handed, super-Jedi is going to force-push its way out of her womb in nine months.
Let's turn to the scoreboards now: Before the movies, Luke was an annoying teen. During the movies, the only available woman was justifiably lusting after the vest-wearing space cowboy, and by the third movie, Luke was already in full-on space monk mode.
So Your Conclusion is...
Luke Skywalker went from being a whiny moisture-monger to being a celibate Soldier Priest, which means he as a person was completely unlikable precisely up until the point that he became completely unfuckable. If we follow the logic as dictated by the Star Wars universe, not only does Luke Skywalker-- chosen one, savior of the universe-- die a virgin, but he has only one vaguely sexual experience. His first, his last, his only sex act was making his twin sister swoon.
"That's no swoon, it's an abomination!"
There is only do, or do not. And Luke did not.
1. Especially not Tales of the Bounty Hunters, which revealed that Boba Fett miraculously survived his encounter with the Sarlacc. I've never even heard of that awesome, awesome thing.
2. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Most of my best friends were, at one point, virgins.
3. Yet.
4. Naaaaiiiiiillllleeed it!
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if you diss theEU then your technically dissing the show itself because lucas himself allowed it...
Replyand well... lets just say jedi do not follow the rules....
that and hes sons mother gets killed by han and leias oldest son...
confusing?
yeah, but heres the names
mara jade skywalker
jaden solo.
ben skywalker.
Way to many comments to sift through, so it's probably been mentioned, but perhaps 'power converters' is slang for space hookers, and that's why Luke was so whiney when he couldn't get to Tosche Station to pick some up...
Replyluke nails a sith lady...mistress... lord, aw who gives a s**t
ReplyLuke was well into puberty in A New Hope, the fact that Aunt Beru existed as a character (not to mention the other women depicted in other Tatooine scenes) are examples that women and men of that planet were accessible to one another. Ignoring the probability of teenage sexual activity because of minor character flaws is more than short sighted.
ReplyAlso, I agree that blowing up the Death Star and publicly being recognized as such would garner at the very least a few "booty calls"
/facepalm, f**k you're all idiots. luke marries mara jade and has kids with her and han and leia get married and have kids.
Replyexpanded universe ftw right?
sheesh
Yeah, when I saw the title, I immediately thought, "Umm... Mara?" Also, offhandedly, I figured Luke's clone probably did die a virgin.
I don't get the books being "non-canon". The books, games, (although, with KOTOR, Revan has a "canon" path and is male,) and such that are official are "canon".
But he did say in the first paragraph that he's ignoring the extended universe, and I think your lack of ability to read the first paragraph is the reason for all the thumbs-down.
I'll bet Luke got plenty of action in the intervening years between New Hope and Empire. Think about it: he invaded the goddamned Death Star to save Leia, he's a badass pilot who destroyed the Death Star, he's the face of the Rebel Alliance, and he's learning the ancient and mysterious arts of The Force, which means he has a lightsaber, which is about 593,568x as sexy as playing accoustic guitar. And as his behavior in the first half of Empire shows, he's not very Jedi-like, so the Jedi Code wouldn't be an issue.
ReplyOh my *god*. I thought MY geekouts were fun...this was f*****g hilarious.
ReplyThis is another reason to hate the prequels. In the original trilogy there wasn't a hint that Jedi were emotionless pricks. After the prequels is suddenly became "canon" that to be a Jedi, you basically had to be the most boring impossible-for-the-audience-to-like person alive.
ReplyNo it did not. Just that the Jedi in the PT had a certain way of interpreting the Jedi Code and of viewing their relationship with the Force. They thought that emotions were dangerous and prone to lead to falling to the Dark Side, but the Jedi had not even up to then always thought that. In earlier periods the Jedi were sometimes much more lax here and even allowed their members to marry and have kids and expres some emotions.
PLus Lukes Jedi were very different in this respect anyway. Yet they did not all turn to the Dark Side. Turns out the PT Jedis views were not necceasirly neccessary to be a successful and powerful Jedi. Turns out they did not "have to" be so boring and all.
That and the Jedi not not say that they had no emotions. Various sources clearly show that they had emotions, even the movies did. They just thought that they had to suppress many of them, cause they thought it might make one more prone to falling to the Dark Side, or that emotions could interfere with their Light Side Force usege. However, canon sources ( books etc, which the original author claims is non-canon, even thjough Lucas has said that they are) prove this to be paranoid and destructive in the long-run, certainly not *good* for the Jedi or the Jedi Order.
While not a fan of Luke for many of the reasons pointed out above, I have to say that it is highly unlikely that Commander Skywalker died a virgin because one one simple truth anyone who has spent time around military aviators knows; Chicks dig a Dude in a flight suit. Guys who fly cargo planes in military have women throwing themselves at them and Luke was the pinnacle of military aviators, a fighter pilot and a highly decorated one at that. Thus it is highly unlikely that in the time between blowing up the Death Star and destroying an ATT with a light saber and a grenade, he did not get lucky on numerous occasions.
Replygood point
I learned in a myth and symbol class in college that the Star Wars series is based on a book called "The Hero with a Thousand Faces," by Joseph Campbell. "The Hero with a Thousand Faces," is a study on myths and legends throughout histroy from all over the world with a focus on the heros of those myths and legends. George Lucas wanted to create a whole new legend based upon the themes found common in the myths told in the book. Luke Skywalker and Han Solo are both based on two different types of heros classified in "The Hero with a Thousand Faces." Han Solo is the hero who "gets the girl," who wins the heart of a woman with his heroism. Luke, on the other hand, is the celibate hero, the one who lives a pure life dedicated to good and the fight against evil. George Lucas created both Han and Luke to embody both these types of heros in his movies series. So, in short, yes, Luke DID in fact die a virgin, just as the celibate hero is supposed to.
ReplyI thought that Luke essentially embodied a new style of Jedi thinking. He practiced the Light side of the Force, but he wore black, gave more way to his emotions, and even used a green lightsaber. From what I understand, the green was supposed to embody how he was on the Light side, just not all the way there.
Reply Hide All See All 3 Repliesyoda and qui gon rock the green lightsaber. Although that happens in the prequels and George Lucas's sanity at that time is questionable.
Always thought the green sabers emphasised speed, while the purple emphasised power, and the blue as kinda half and half.
I had the same reasoning pulse the small detail that everyone that might stand in the way of luke boning is now dead and or a ghost so yeah no one ganna tell him not to bone because they all dead.
Uh sorry, three subjects became a whole bunch more. I got caught up in a rant.
ReplyHe has every right to disregard EU. It's terrible. The Dark Force trilogy was boring beyond words aside from the concept of Mara Jade. Also, every single book ends up having to do with three subjects: The Empire trying to make a comeback (logical, but depressing); Luke being all...Jedi Master-like; Leia failing at everything involving the Force; Han and Leia's kids and their dumbass names that have since inspired every single Mary Sue fanfic writer; Mara Jade being a whore; some kind of Jedi school; Emperor clones. Kevin J. Anderson wrote the only remotely interesting EU trilogy and it still kind of sucked. Look, I get with a story like Star Wars when you're a fan you never want it to end, but it has to, ok. Leave it alone.
ReplyOn topic: I agree with the poster that mentioned the years between A New Hope and Empire. That was his window and hopefully he totally got down with his bad self. Unfortunately it's unlikely since he was hung up on Leia, who was secretly hung up on Han.... So yeah. Virgin.
I guess picking up some power converters at Toshi Station is the Tatooine equivalent of "wasting time with your friends." Wouldn't picking up power converters be considered a chore as well. f*****g lazy ass Uncle Owen should go get the damn droids cleaned up himself. He's almost cockblocking an already pussified Luke.
ReplyWell, he did have three years in between 'A New Hope' and 'Empire', so it's possible that he and a random Rebel chick ended up playing hide the lightsaber. After all, he was getting well past the whine by the end of 'New Hope', and then he was no longer a moisture farmer, he was the flying ace who destroyed the Death Star. It's totally reasonable to assume that any admiring Rebel ass he got after the battle was his first time, though.
ReplyOtherwise, going by the EU canon, the first time he got laid was a few weeks before his 30th birthday.
In the expanded univer- Why, oh god, why did I even start that sentence?
Replysure, the farmboy with movie star good looks and his own sweet ride never got laid.... c'mon man, he was like in his early twenties when he left. Whiney guys get laid all the time.
Replylike anakin
Cracked needs serious inspiration at this point. Out of touch and irrelevant!
ReplyYou want "relevant"? From Cracked? Seriously?
If I thought the article was nerdy then the comments are on a whole other level.
ReplyEXCELCIOOOORRRRRRRR und boobs
A lot of the commenters below did not read the opening paragraph.
Reply