St. Patrick vs Guy Celebrating St. Patrick's Day [CHART]
People give Christmas a lot of heat for forgetting what the holiday really is all about. But when it comes to forgetting stuff, no holiday can match up with Saint Patrick's Day.
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What's so bad about snakes?
ReplyI hate snakes! AAAAHHH!!!!
The snakes are symbolic of the pagans in Ireland. Basically St. Patrick helped eradicate all Pagans from Ireland. Hence why "fought diligently against druidic teachings" is on there.
yup welsh
ReplySt. Patrick was more than likely Welsh actually.
ReplyIt crackes me up when people say Americans don't have an identity. We do have an identity as the villan if anybody anywhere did anything to hurt you or cause you to get a scrapped knee boo boo it's Americans fault. Thats not exactly the best identity to associate yourself with; so I don't blame anyone for looking to family roots to try and find something else to associate with. I however embrace the roll as a villan. Sorry about your damn luck! I'm good to go!
Replyyou know up until recently America was seen by most of the middle east and a good deal of europe as the epitomy of freedom, education, and opportunity. In fact almost every country that has not been in a war with america or terrorized by death squads the CIA funded loves america, or at least the people do. America is a country with a shitload of potential that has simply become so caught up in fear and paranoia that it can't make any progress because that progress might be some socialist islamist conspiracy, all you have to do as a country is forget about being scared and get down to producing the world changing innovation that your known for. And wanna no why everyone makes fun of the US and especially the right wing? It's just that most people find the idea of someone saying that to defeat the terrorists who hate them for their freedom they have to sign a law that will take away peoples freedom. sorry about the rant, it's just that I get off pissed by people who whine about how everyone hates them.
Let Americans have pride in their bloodlines! That is why so many american teens act black its because they dont know who they are or where they came from. 50 years ago if you asked a white american what he was he'd say Scottish or German etc. , now we are all white boys with no identity culturally
Replycome up with your own goddamned culture, youve had over 2 centuries already
There is a difference between understand and respecting your heritage and claiming to be something your not.
He was from Wales, Goddamn it! And the snakes refer to the Druids. Geezo, 2 minutes on wikipedia could find that out.
ReplyI'm glad I'm not the only one who knows that "snakes" are a metaphor.
it is also a folk myth to explain why there are no snakes indigenous to Ireland
Saint Patrick wasn't from Scotland. He was from Cumbria.
ReplyScireland is actually an awesome name...
ReplyI'd go there.
Hahaha. Scireland.
ReplyWho the f**k calls it Pattys day? hahaha Its Paddys Days- as in short for Patrick- as in the very popular Irish name- as in the stereotypical name for Irish people
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ReplySaint Padrick? No, it's Saint Patrick. With a t. That makes the shortened version "Patty", not "Paddy". You don't get to be carefree drunkards AND pedantic. Pick an annoying sterotype and stick to it.
Reply Hide All See All 4 RepliesI am Irish, it is Paddy. Patty is a woman's name.
Read Luke McKinney's article, I couldn't be bothered explaining the logic behind it.
Patrick is the Anglican version of the Irish name. It's what we know it by because we don't live in ancient Ireland. Padraic, or Pádraig was where Patrick came from. Paddy would be the shortened form of the original Irish spellings.
Incidentally, Patricia (Patty) was Pádraigín, so would also shorten to Paddy.
Padraig is Irish for Patrick "With a D," I'm Irish and If you want me to pick a Stereotype then I'll blow you the f**k up with a f*****g Pipebomb, Good enough?
im irish, and while i have to point out that its paddys day (when did all the "patty" s**t come out of?!)otherwise, i approve of this article (:
ReplyPS i live twenty mins away from the big church at the top XD
Unfortunately there ARE people in existence who think that Scotland and Ireland are practically the same country...dumb*sses.
Reply Hide All See All 4 RepliesAnd while it's still debated where exactly St Patrick originated from, most would say Wales not Scotland.
Also it's PADDY'S day not PATTY'S day. Patty is a girl's name (short for Patricia not Patrick), get it right!
And if your grandmother is from Dublin but all her descendants were born and bred in America including you, then you're American not Irish. You can only call yourself Irish if you're from the country. If your parents are fom Ireland, then that makes your parents Irish, not necessarily you.
.....but we don't WANT to be American! :)
A minor correction, though: if your parents, or even grandparents, are from a country - ethnically, not just lived there - then you are ethnically Irish, German, whatever. Not nationally or politically (unless you move there; not a lot of people doing that, but hey, it happens).
An example is the grandfather test for citizenship in Germany: if you weren't born in Germany, but you are two or fewer generations removed, you can move there and claim citizenship. It might seem to be a ridiculous, insular trivialization (can't you just move there and claim citizenship if you feel like it?), but it shows that the German people - who, granted, have a bit of a troubled history with nationalism and ethnicity - consider you to be a German if you are not more than two generations removed.
Which makes most Americans into an ethno-national soup made of at least four ingredients...ingredients which, in all likelihood, hate each other. :)
@roguer: There's an Irish ethinicity? And a German ethnicity? Those are nationalities, dear. I was an Ethnic Studies and American Culture Studies double minor in college. (Double minor because I qualified for both and had to pick one as my official minor.)
You can play for the Irish soccer team if your Granny is Irish. That's why most of our players are actually English
So what if your grandparents were German but had children in Ireland. Then your parents moved to America and had you. would you be swedish, irish or just a mess
I always wonder about anyone who takes pride in being descended from people so retarded and alcoholic that they were almost wiped out of existence because of potatoes.
Reply Hide All See All 8 RepliesThe British took the good land to graze cattle on. Poor people made do with poor land, and potatoes were the best thing to grow. It was all people had, and when the crop failed food prices soared. Added to that, huge quantities of other foods like corn were still being exported, often under armed guard, to England while people starved. So... what exactly are you talking about?
He's talking about the hilariously simplified history he read about on a f**king Happy Meal.
This, coming from someone whose entire culture and existence would die out if fast food ceased to exist.
Considering a huge amount of those people ended up moving to America to escape the potato famine, I think a lot of people should take pride in being Irish.
England and elsewhere. No country exported as much food as Ireland at that point. Despite LadyM's comments, this was done out of greed (although the transports were indeed armed).
The English COULD have forced them to sell the food domestically for the duration of the calamity, and had done so in the past, but this time they just said f**k it.
It didn't help that the man in charge of the relief efforts thought it was God's way of dealing with the Irish problem once and for all.
Sazz, way to fight racism and stupidity with more of the same. You can't prove you're more "enlightened" by the original poster by copying him (or her).
On a darkly humorous note: I always thought it was funny that potatoes are not native to Europe; they come from the Americas. Two potato famines are largely responsible for the largest waves of Irish emigration in history. While they went everywhere, a huge portion went to the United States, where they filled the sociological niche of "extremely poor laborer."
It's almost.....it's almost like some devious precursor to the US planned it out. "Trust me, guys, in about 500 years, you're going to be thanking me!"
hmmm..... stupid or troll..... stupid or troll..... hey, I'm going to be generous and say both!
As others have rightly said Ireland was a net exporter of food throughout the Hunger; at no point did it not have enough to feed itself. It was left to starve in order to break it. A little trick the English ruling elite would pull again in India just a few decades later.
Scotland OR Wales. Historians differ on opinion.
ReplyOr England (Cumbria, specifically)
Scotland+Ireland=Scoreland... And Also Why is doc*mented censored?
Reply Hide All See All 3 Repliesbecause do-c*m-ented that's why.
You know, when you're doc*menting stuff and it gets all up in your typeface.
The worst part is when some doc*ment gets all up in your hair.
Why the f**k do Americans keep calling themselves "Half Irish". Your not Irish unless you were born here, f**k you. If your calling yourself half Irish, then your 50% Irish, 50% British or whatever, and 0% American, so your either American, or your Irish. I'm from a fully Irish family, I live in Ireland, Spent most of my life here, but I was Born in England and I'm an Englishman to the end. If you go back far enough, were all African, so calling yourself after your ancestors, it's stupid.
Reply Hide All See All 9 RepliesActually, if you're like me, you can be born in America and still be Irish. I was born in the USA because my parents were over visiting family. I went back home to Roscommon the following week. I am 100% Irish and was raised there up until age 2, at which point we went back and forth between the two countries until we settled in the USA a little after my 13th birthday. In my mind and my parents mind, I am full Irish, not a drop of "American" in me.
I just wanted to provide an exception to the rule.
However, I do agree with you on your "Americans always claiming to be Irish". I live in New England at the moment (Northeastern part of the USA), you rarely meet a soul who doesn't go around saying they're some part Irish. On St. Paddy's day, it gets all-the-worse when the damn fake Irish accents come out. I swear, worst accents you've ever heard in your entire life.
...Oh, just an fyi. As far as governments are concerned, you're whatever nationality your parents are at the time of your birth. So, unless your parents are English and were living there at the time, you're not English, you're Irish.
Unless you were born in England before January 82; prior to that, your parents didn't have to be English for you to be (Neither of my parents are English citizens- I am)
Out of curiosity what the hell am I. My mom is british born in the netherlands, my dad swedish born in sweden, I was born in the US. At age two I started moving... I have lived all over the bloody world. Europe mostly, the US, South America, Asia, the Middle East. I dunno my dad so don't identify with him. I have some family in the Netherlands, and some in the US, but my grandparents live in England on our family estate that goes back to the 1200s. What am I? American? British? Dutch? Swedish?
I identify most with the british... because that is where all my ancestors are from, and where we live when not traveling (a couple months every few years).
Dunno... I could see someone being "Half Irish"
Acknowledging our ancestors gives a us a sense of connection to history and deepens our self-identity. Having a solid sense of self-identity provides a psychological foundation upon which more superficial attributes can build. In other words, it makes us happier and gives us a sense of our origins and our place in the world.
It also wasn't too long ago that being Irish was a terrible burden for someone living in the US or UK. Nowadays, the stigma is gone, so those of us with roots in Ireland tend to be rather quick to point out those once-hated familial ties. In a way, maybe it's to vindicate those first Irish settlers here, who were treated so poorly.
So don't be offended. I don't think most people mean to seem pretentious about the subject. After all, unless you're Ethiopian, everybody is from somewhere else.
I'm Irish and yes it can be strange and hard to understand why Americans insist on identifying themselves by their ancestors' heritage but what is even more annoying is Irish people whinging about it. You make the whole country look snobby and condescending. Its not like it negatively impacts your life on a regular basis, it does no harm and it brings in millions of euro to Ireland in tourism every year- stop complaining!
When you live in a country that is a melting-pot of cultures it signifies what you and your ancestors went through, not what nationality you are legally. It's a matter of identity, nothing more and nothing less. I imagine it would be different being in a more h**ogeneous society. You are 100% Irish, unlike your neighbor who is 100% Irish... Oh wait. I see a pattern here.
I am an American, which means I am bad at geography and basic math and science. I also have 9(!) ethnic heritages that tell where my family came from. My children have 11. My biggest heritage is Native American, which I never really thought about much when I was younger, but now that I am older it explains a lot of "idiosyncrasies". For instance, it was a mortal sin growing up to waste food, even when we had plenty. I also think of my pets as equals whom make their own choices (including whether they stay or go somewhere else). Basing one's self-worth on what kind of car you drive and what label you have in your shirt make no sense. I could keep going.
The point is that understanding your ancestors goes a long way towards understanding yourself.
Oh, and I am part Irish.
It's even more popular to claim to be part "American Indian," as though that made you ancient, mystical, and able to talk to animals or something. Probably Irish means something similar, or at least it means something. As "U.S. Americans" we have less than 300 years behind us, and in most places (except some out west, and a few along the coast) there's no buildings from before then except for a few odd mounds. One bit of trivia: A lot of the ones over here who call themselves "100% Americans" are technically Scotts-Irish-Americans (meaning that there ancestors immigrated from Scottland to Ireland before here and got tired of all the hyphens). But really yeah, we're all Africans, and all African-Americans if we live in the U.S.
We claim heritage because we're proud of our ancestors and their accomplishments, and no, the human race dates back to 3 of the 7 continents.
English-speaking nations are really, really good at hyphenating things (probably because we're better at assimilating other cultures than creating our own): African-American, Irish-American, Italian-American.
If you're from a family (1st generation) from another country, or better yet, you moved here yourself, then I can see that (still doesn't make you "half" anything, though; genetically, you're "half" something if one of your parents was full-blooded that thing, but that has nothing to do with where you're born). But it makes sense to identify with your ethnicity to an extent.
Look at it this way: if you're black, with parents who literally moved here from South Africa, are you "American?" Politically, sure; but there isn't a drop of Native American blood in you. You're no more American, ethnically, than I.
That's why people do this. Everyone living permanently in the US should consider themselves an American (or United Statesian, so as to not imply lordship over two continents). However, if you want to refer to yourself as Irish, ethnically, because both of your parents moved here from Dublin...I have no problem with that. It absolutely makes sense, because you sure as HELL aren't Sioux or Seminole.
I turned 21 on the 16th so naturally I had to go to the bar. Dressed head to toe in black, not a shred of green on me. Drank a bunch of green beer, watched a bunch of idiots dance around, hung out with my buddy, had a good time. Whenever anyone wished me a Happy St Patrick's day I responded with a Happy Drunken Idiots Day. Pretty much everyone laughed or was too drunk to care. When my (mexican) friend Vince asked why I kept saying that I told him "Dude, the green Bud Light Lime we're drinking is about as Irish as you are."
Reply Hide All See All 5 RepliesI ARE COOL BECAUSE I TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO NOTICE HOW DIFFERENT I AM!!!
god, what a douche "oh god you guys realize how f**king cool i am because i flaunt convention?"
no...none of that really happened.
oh, you just blew him behind the bar instead?
Yeah, being a buzzkill sure is edgy.
Yeah, and?
f**k St. Patrick. I hope a druid shoves a snake up his a*****e.
Reply Hide All See All 3 Repliesooooh, there's already one up this guy's ass i guess
hopefully he doesn't use the same snake!
Two guys one snake?