'Plus Sized' Clothes: Translating the Baffling Euphemisms
I am a big fatty. This is the one area where Internet criticism of me is correct.
Now, I am not exactly morbidly obese, but I am fat enough to worry about things that fat people worry about, like clothes. The world has not wanted to see fat people naked since the Renaissance, so we are pretty much forced by our fascist society to wear something. I can barely call them "clothes," however, as much of what's been available for the full-figured woman could better be defined as tents, or period costumes, or tablecloths with neck holes cut in the middle.

A sample of the hot fashions often available to the overweight.
Note how a muumuu can make even a skinny woman look fat.
You might think, Well, serves you right for being fat, fatty. Lose some weight if you want to wear nice clothes. Sure, Americans in particular should probably take some responsibility for their weight, but does it benefit any of us, fat or thin, to see that sweater or those floral prints coming down the street at us?
Fortunately, this seems to have gotten through to many clothing designers in the last few years, who have started coughing up clothing lines for the specially-sized. Unfortunately, this "victory" actually just opens up stage two of the "finding clothes even though you are overweight" game. Stage two involves navigating the maze of stupid euphemisms to figure out where all these new plus-sized clothes are.

Now, there are two places to get larger-sized clothes. You can go to a store especially for plus-sizes, or you can look for a plus-sized section in a regular clothing store. Shopping in a specialized store has some pluses and minuses. The plus is that you have more selection. The minus is that someone might spot you shopping in a store for fat people and everyone would know you are fat. That is sort of irrational though, unless you normally interact with people from behind a machine like the Wizard of Oz.
Anyway, beyond that, the issue is finding one of these stores. When guys want to find a store for abnormally giant men, they can go to a store called Big and Tall or something. There are no women's stores called Big and Fat or Large Ass Emporium, for obvious reasons.

Some less successful store naming ideas.
Faced with the challenge of coming up with a name that indicates they sell larger sizes, but without actually describing their customers as being overweight or differently-sized in any way, most clothing stores just give up. There seem to be three main strategies:
I. Some Lady's Name

See Lane Bryant or Ashley Stewart. Who are they? Are they famously large women? Do they dress just like large women? You don't know. You just go to the mall and see fucking "Lane Bryant" on the store sign. Sure, all the clothes in the window display are a bit large, but since they're also apparently made for grandmothers, you just assume they're supposed to be shapeless, because that's what everyone seems to think old ladies like. As a teen, I walked in there once looking for an interview suit assuming exactly that; that they make stodgy conservative clothes for old people. And what's better than to look grown up for an interview? It took five minutes of browsing to realize they had nothing smaller than a 14.
II. Some Random Word

See Avenue and Alight. Looking at the number of "random word" stores starting with A, I'm willing to bet they're going through a dictionary and looking for the first words that have nothing to do with being fat or any other negative connotation. Unfortunately, as political pundits have taught us, any word can have a negative connotation if you put your mind to it. If you try to figure out why a plus-sized store would be named Avenue, the only logical conclusion is that they think their customers are as wide as a street. If you look at Alight that way, all you see is cruel, cruel sarcasm.
III. Like The Original Store's Name But Different

Plus-sized version of franchises include Torrid (original store: Hot Topic), Macy's Woman (Macy's), Elisabeth (Liz Claiborne), Faith 21 (Forever 21) and Pure Energy (Target). If you weren't familiar with the names of the original stores, you wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between which is the regular brand and which is the plus-size brand. Seriously, Macy's, you think adding "Woman" to your name means "fat"? Either that's misogynistic or they've got a Macy's Man store full of giant Hawaiian shirts.

Once you're in the store, you've got to find the clothes for the exact kind of fat you are, because there are many different shapes of fat. For example:




Also consider looking into football.

So you found the right store somehow, you know what shape of clothes you're looking for and you're ready to shop. Now have fun figuring out what sizes and cuts mean what. Just like they can't call the store, "Clothes for Fat People," they also can't call that jeans cut "Jeans for Big Asses."

Here's a translation of somewhat recent jean styles from GAP (they seem to change monthly), which believe it or not I've historically found the easiest store to buy jeans at.
Boot cut - For skinny people.
Curvy - Fat ass. (For the pear-shaped woman.)
Straight leg (formerly "Classic") - Fat but too weird shaped to fit into Curvy.

Perfectly fitting curvy jeans: the large-assed woman's holy grail.
Curvy is actually for a pretty particular shape of fat ass, so when that season's curvy jeans aren't catering to you, you have to roll with the "classic," or some kind of formless cut, which due to your jutting butt, will just drape over the rest of your legs like a tent and make them look just as thick as your butt.

And you just can't wear these without the abs.
GAP also caters to the penguin-shaped woman by having three leg lengths to choose from in each size:
Long - Means long.
Regular - Means regular.
Ankle - Means short.
I love how they are so sensitive about people with short legs that they make up this fiction that normal sized women are buying "ankle" length jeans because they just feel like changing it up and having some jeans that end somewhere above their ankles.
I'm starting to think maybe the whole capris trend was really an effort to cater to ladies with really, really short legs that was way too subtle, so everyone thought they were really supposed to wear them as actual short pants. This has probably been the fashion industry's little inside joke for the past decade.

Ashton Kutcher has himself been punk'd this whole time.
Outside of GAP-specific terms, other stores also have their own indecipherable names for certain body shapes. For example, "petite" is the code word for "short legs." Technically it's supposed to be for all smaller women, but overall tiny women usually just get size 0's, those jerks. Women buying "petite" sizes are usually just shrunk down vertically and not so much horizontally, created by God to balance a population that contained Manute Bol.

And last but not least, there is "goddess size," found at many fantasy-clothes, Wiccan-clothes and period-costume suppliers, which is so far past the line that I would actually be less embarrassed buying a dress sized "Oink."
For instance, here are some "goddess-sized" clothes for sale.

Where this is what you get if you do an image search for "goddess":

Now, here's where we could wring our hands about how "society" keeps projecting unnatural thinness as an ideal even onto our imagined images of goddesses, but I'm pretty sure a lot of the same people who put on goddess-size dresses are also drawing these hot skinny goddesses and uploading them to deviantart, so there may be a little disconnect in imagining how putting on that dress makes them look.
And it's not limited to heavy girls, as any snapshot of any fan convention or LARP game could probably tell you that most human beings have a hard time noticing discrepancies between what they look like and the fantasy image they think they look like.

So to sum up: If you're overweight and female, you've got to know your shape, hunt through random stores' inventory to figure out if they sell plus-sizes, decipher the code words that store uses for body shapes through trial and error, and repeat that all over again for every store you go to.
If society's goal is to make it so hard that it actually seems easier to just go to the gym, well, we're almost there.
Check out more from Christina, in The 5 Biggest Mistakes Women (Like Me!) Make On The Internet and The 6 Most Insane Crash Diets of All Time.








I'm a UK size 12, but unfortunately living in a small town in the countryside leaves the selection of clothes to choose from quite limited :/
ReplyI know a size 12 isn't that big, but it's annoying how weight can be distributed in different ways, so a normal sized tall girl could be a 12, and so could an apple-shaped fat one like me, so all of the clothes don't fit right.
It's so hard to find nice clothes that fit well in tiny cheap stores that don't cling to all the wrong places, if you know what I mean, too. But I guess I'm only 15 now so I suppose I'll store all this information for a later date ;)
Even when I was bulimic I had trouble. My waist is perpetually 15 inches smaller than my hips, and I'm quite top-heavy.
Replyoh jeeze, what a problem to have..
I am short and apple shaped. What I find most annoying these days trying to find a pair of slacks is, everything seems to be low cut. Thanks, but I don't want my abdomen hanging over my belt, like some plumber. Nor do I want plumber butt, which is what most women wearing low cut slacks suffer from. I want a pair of petite slacks in my size, where the waistline is at my waist. I'm short-waisted, so I figured, hey, try on some regular Misses slacks! Nope. The low rise Misses slacks are still below my waistline. Why is asking for slacks where the waist is at the waistline so much to ask for? I'm middle aged, I did hip-huggers in middle school and they were uncomfortable then, too. It's gotten to the point where in the last two years, the only places I've been able to find slacks that fit right are Goodwill and the Salvation Army.
Replyim a hourglass and plus sized.. and let me also say im 6ft tall !!!!clothing shopping sucks!!! i have been dieting and getting smaller so you would think can go and find clothing nice clothing wrong! my waist is a size 16 and my hips are like a 20 we wont talk about the other parts.. its super frustrating i like pin up styles so that helps with skirts and dresses however jeans are a nightmare to look for shapers same issue .. anyone know where shapers are actually made for these issues like thighs etc..
ReplyYou and I must be the same person, because I have the exact same problems. I usually just stick to black leggings, a knee-length skirt, and a T-shirt because it's comfortable and easy and doesn't make me look like I weigh 400 pounds.
I'm dieting, too, so here's hoping for the both of us!
Me too! Almost six feet tall and waist 10 inches smaller than hips although both are "queen" sized. Although I had to pay an outrageous price for them, I found some "Blue" fit jeans at Lane Bryant that actually FIT, and their "T3" jeans (tummy control panel) fit very well also.
You are my new favorite cracked author! THANK YOU. Preach on, sistah!
ReplyOK, so, does anyone else have trouble finding a pair of pants that fit at Target? All of them are way, way, way too short in the crotch. I go up sizes, and finally, I have fabric flapping around because I have enough room for two of me in the hips, but the crotch still binds. Is it just me?
ReplyI can NEVER fit into Target's pants. They are to short in the crotch, no matter what my weight is, and no matter what size I wear. I remember being really upset once when I was wearing a size 10 because I couldn't find khakis that fit at Target.
I'm not fat, but I can relate to stuff not fitting, or it fitting weird just cus you're not a size 6 or below. I ran track and played volleyball in college (about 3 yrs ago). Mix naturally strong and about 10 years of weightlifting and competition and you get thighs that can squat one of your teammates (lol, yes, she's only 170. I could get higher than that. I was a beast back then). But this muscle hasn't gone away entirely. So I always have that gap problem. And that hip problem. And that leg length problem. And I'm in between sizes, as in, Ashley Stewart starts at size 14, and many stores stop at size 8. So, where do I find sizes 10 to 12? With longer legged jeans? With a smaller waist size? With a bigger hip size? Where can I get all three? if they fit my thighs, i have this gap AND this front pouch thing going on i guess is for women with larger waists/stomachs, i don't know. I am just now seeing stores varying their hip-waist-leg ratios. I was so proud when I walked my sis into Ashley Stewart. The clothes fit, were very nice, and she found some age appropriate nice stuff. But not every designer/store has caught on. And don't get me started on wth those numbers even mean.
ReplyI'm a bigger girl (AUS size 14-16, not sure what Americans call it) and I actually find it really easy to find nice clothes in my size. I wouldn't go near stores like Auotgraph or City Chic even though they cater to my size. The clothes are ridiculously expensive and in my opinion, ugly (even though they're just larger versions of what's meant to be "fashionable"). I do 98% of clothes shopping at Kmart. it's stores like Jay Jays and Ally that drive me mad. Everything in Ally fits perfectly until I try to pull it down over my 12DD boobs. Ally's largest size is a large and most of the time it fits me no differently than a Medium size. Would be nice to see tighter-fitting dresses with a little more room in and under the bust and less of those bloody shoestring singlets. I have to buy underwear from Triumph and my bras have thicker straps for better support but it's hard to find singlets that have wider straps or are cut a little higher. I also find that dresses from Crossroads fit great except around the bust. They're way too loose.
ReplyI definitely agree -- the fashion world is silly, frustrating, and sometimes ridiculous.
ReplyHowever -- it's this way for everyone.
I worked in specialty retail for two and a half years, and one thing I discovered was that everyone thinks that fashion retailers are out to get their body type. Short, small girls complained that we didn't carry enough XS's and size 24 short jeans. Tall, small girls complain about not enough 24XL jeans. Big, curvy girls complaining about not enough 34s or 36s and XL's...etc etc etc. The names and different sizing are just retailers trying to please as many people as possible.
The reality is that if every garment in the store fit you, you would be the only person that could shop in that store. Every human is different, yet every item of clothing can't be, and that's just that. So trial and error becomes an integral part of shopping.
I am 5'5", 130 lbs, and a size 4, 27, or small, and I am totally happy with my shape. All this aside, I still take 20-30 pieces of clothing into the dressing room and will regularly come out with 1 or 2, or maybe nothing. This is how you have to shop! I don't get sad when something doesn't work for me or they don't have my size (because believe it or not, stores are out of smalls and mediums just as much as they are out of larges and x-larges -- I can't count the number of times I looked through a whole rack of clothes without finding my size), I just grab the next thing. Every brand, retailer, and fabric is different, and something will work for you, but first you have to find it.
I have some tips:
- If you don't have time or energy to shop for the exact right thing, then tailor. Clothes can almost never come off the rack exactly made for you.
- Go to a store with helpful, friendly salespeople and LET THEM HELP YOU. Chances are they are there to make you happy, are bored out of their skulls, and would LOVE to make you look as amazing as possible. They also probably know more about fits, colors, sizes and styles at their store than you. And for everyone who has had a bad sales experience, just ask for a manager or another associate. Chances are there is someone there who can become your new personal stylist - for free.
- Don't assume someone can't help you just because they may not have the same fit problems as you. When I worked in retail, I had to win the trust of women of different shapes than me over and over again. I had a lot of great knowledge I wanted to share with them, but some people weren't receptive to that because they thought on some level I was judging their size, height, weight, style preferences, whatever. I WASN'T. All I wanted to do was help people to look great, and I found it really fulfilling when I was able to help someone accomplish this. Let someone help you. It probably won't be as bad as you think.
So go forth and shop, everyone! I bet no one will be out to get you. And if you find someone who is, ask for their manager. :)
Love your first paragraph. Also, while I know heavier people have a much harder time shopping, trying to be modest when I was in my teens and early 20s (and rail-thin due to high metabolism that quit as soon as I hit 25) was no picnic either. Every designer seemed to think that if you weren't a lard-ass you wanted your boobs falling out of your shirt and skirts that barely cover your lady bits.
Dear, I think you have it better than me. I'm one of those morbidly skinny people (not anorexic, just really ill). When I go into a clothes store, I can't find a damn thing that actually fits. Internet shopping never helped either. At least there are sizes for you and not one generic one.
ReplyI wanna start a store now TT-TT
Some of these shapes are possessed by skinny and "normal-sized" women as well. For example, my 35-28-41 measurements keep me out of anything but "curvy" pants, and also out of the fat stores.
ReplyUgh, I know! Before I had my son (my waist is a few inches bigger around now, I been too scared to measure for sure though so far!) I had a 23 inch waist and 42 inch hips. No f'ing pants ever fit me right. Dereon and Rocawear pants used to be cut bigger in the butt but them jeans are expensive!
I really, really want a pair of PZI jeans (Perazzi) . They are over 100 dollars IIRC, but they are a line of jeans specifically created for big butt girls. NOT "curvy" which means "overweight", but ACTUALLY curvy, small waist and big behind girls. They actually let you choose your pants from 3 measurements, the waist, hip, and length, so you get a pair of pants pretty much cut and tailored just for you. F'ing awesome. EVERYBODY that I have ever heard of buying them was all like 'best pants ever ever, worth every penny, never 'the gap in the back' again" , etc. If you got the dough you should check them out and report back to us here if they did the trick...
Nice! my measurements are similar. And PZI jeans? cool, but I can't afford that right now. I find it hard for fit when I'm on a budget. I can't spring for something more expensive just bc it fits. But I always find luck if a designer sells "wide-leg", because it usually means it has hip room and it will fit me like a "bootcut" But I will look into PZI. :)
I was super excited when I found out that American Eagle regularly stocks 'petite' jeans for short people!.. I was less so when I found out my legs were still too short for them. Fuck. (Side note: I was also please with your 'show profanity button' for some reason. LoL)
ReplyYou forgot one of the fat "shapes": Hourglass. Not that I particularly consider this shape to be fat, but women such as I with an hourglass shape often have to shop at plus-size stores as well. While my waist is a "normal" skinny waist, I have big boobs and a big butt, which means shirts and pants can be a b***h to buy. Skirts and certain dresses are fine, because they fit my waist and I don't have to worry about how they fit my butt so long as they aren't too short or too tight. My boobs and but, however, leave me in a bit of predicament. For most plus-size stores, I'm too small for most of their clothing with the exception of their bras and boots (I have muscular calves from years of dancing and most boots aren't wide enough for them). A lot of juniors' stores (I'm 21 and look like I'm 16, so adult women's store for the most part look too mature/matronly for me) carry clothing that doesn't particularly fit me. Fortunately, Charlotte Russe, Maurices, and Rue 21 carry XL shirts and pants that fit my butt, so I canfind clothes that fit me there. Same thing with Target, which has a pretty stylish juniors section. However, there are a lot of juniors'/young people stores at my local mall (Forever 21, Papaya, etc.) that have clothes that I would love to wear, but they only carry sizes XS, S, M, and L. What really pisses me off is that if they went up JUST ONE more size, I could fit my big bazoombas into their shirts, coats, and dresses but they just can't assed to carry XL stuff it their stores. They always tell me, "We carry XL sizes online," which does me a shitload of good when I'd like to try something on first.
Reply Hide All See All 4 RepliesHourglasses can definitely be fat. I might need two sizes bigger for my boobs and arse than my waist, but that smaller size is still plus sized.
That's strange, a lot of Forever 21 stores are doing plus sizes now, maybe just hold on a bit and yours mall will get them :P
You say hourglass and i say guitar. There is close to nothing sexy about an hourglass. A guitar on the other hand has curves in all the right places, contours that fit perfectly with the person playing it. Oh the music we... I mean that union could make...
I'm an overweight hourglass girl on Spring Break from Japan and went to Forever 21 for the first time there. I usually have to dig, but I can usually find an XL hidden away(and this is in a country where a majority of the population is naturally short, skinny people). I even sometimes find that I can even get away with a large because most of their shirts have a good deal of stretch to them. I am disappointed maybe half the time, however, when I can't find an XL of a shirt I REALLY want and I don't even wanna try shopping for pants in that country. But I can usually find enough to easily spend 10,000yen (around $75) there.
What about fashion bug? I can't even begin to measure the level of embarassment from my mom making me participate in a fashion bug fashion show just for the extra discount. Apparently we really needed it because fat people clothes are retardedly more expensive than the same damn style of pants at a regular store. There is nothing anyone call say that will convince me that its ok for a pair of jeans at a fat store to cost 50 bucks when the same style of jeans at walmart costs 15 bucks!
ReplyMy god I hated that too. I'd go to Macy's or something and find a pair of pants that's made for larger asses and/or larger waists and noticed how it was about 100 bucks ... FOR WHAT?? the only innovative thing they did was make it out of part spandex and stitched it to look trim lines in a V shape down the leggings toward the inner part of the knees. Seriously? It's just retarded, it's like they want overweight people from 20-60+ pounds over what they fashion industry says they should be to have to pay double or more for the exact same fashion as if the same people were a size 10 and less. So not only do you have to feel bad about any extra weight at all, but you have to pay more to cover it up to not feel so depressed and go on a date with Ben and Jerry.
very good article, although you left out one type of clothing that actually looks decent on a good number of larger women, the empire waist dress. that's all i wear. sure some of them look like really fancy mumus but some can actually make it look like you're a skinny girl with really big tits :)
ReplyThank youm thank you for your insightful, honest article. I could say more, but I don't want you to know how fat I am.
ReplySee know you got me all curious. I got a soft(hard?) spot for big girls.
and btw: what's this "your friends don't know you're fat" crap? does every other big b***h but me walk around in spanx all day or something? and if you do...then i feel bad for you. at least a corset becomes comfortable after an hour
Replya comment on torrid: they don't sell a single damn thing that hot topic has anymore. they became more of the happy go lucky indy scene for all the fat girls who apparently want to be cute and ironic (like fat zoey dechanel's). but then again you couldn't pay me to go into either store anymore
ReplySomething I've noticed (especially at Target) is that plus size and maternity are right next to each other. So what are they trying to say? That fat women look pregnant or that pregnant woman look fat?
ReplyMaybe "Get used to this side of the store because you're never going back to the skinny section lololololol"
I've noticed that, and also that the maternity clothes are way nicer. Target's plus-sized clothes are fairly hideous.
I lost it at 'Tweedledee'
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