The 5 Biggest Mistakes Women (Like Me!) Make On The Internet
I was an ugly duckling growing up. Not a movie ugly duckling that is hot if she just takes off her glasses and wears a prom dress, but a certified socially-unaware dork. For girls like me, the Internet was like turn-of-the-century America was to immigrants. We leapt for our computers with visions of a world where the streets are paved with male nerds that had never seen a woman and would crown us queen upon receiving proof of ovaries.

However, just like immigrants were disappointed to find nothing but workhouses and Godfather Part II flashbacks waiting for them, socially awkward females found our hopes dashed by a surprisingly jaded and unenthusiastic Internet. It still happens every day, as new girls hop on the Web, bright-eyed and naive, with a handful of coy webcam close-ups and fragile dreams.
Their journey of disillusionment begins with the most disappointing reality of all:

I mean, yes, every person is unique and valuable as a human being and all that, but not to the Internet, and certainly not just by virtue of being female. One of the first forums I joined was a gaming forum. OK, it was a Final Fantasy forum. I was just looking for some tips on beating Emerald Weapon, OK? That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

I ended up using the Lucky 7s trick. If you care, you probably know what it is already.
Anyway, I stuck around, and ended up participating in the forum at large. As I got used to it, I decided to let everyone know I was a girl, because I thought people would find this very surprising, as they were all nerdy gamer guys.
Because I was too subtle to come out and say, "HI EVERYONE I AM A GIRL," I went with something coy like, "I'm applying to schools, oh by the way, this one might give me a scholarship for being a girl," or "What do you think of my new haircut (insert picture)?" or maybe, "Pardon the typos, my boobs keep bouncing off the keyboard." I don't remember exactly, it was a while ago.

"Hello fellow car forum members, here's a picture of the Nissan 350Z I just bought. Isn't it a great car?"
Whatever clue I dropped was apparently plenty clear because about 20 girls replied saying, "Wow, you're a girl? It's so GREAT to have other girls on this forum!"
While it may not have been the response I was looking for, I've seen this happen enough since then to know I dodged a bullet here. If I'd posted my picture, they would have posted their much, much cuter and girlier pictures. Had I gone with the less subtle, "Any other girls here?" I would have been forced to pretend I was happy to see all these other more attractive girls, matching their false enthusiasm with an even more over the top. "Oh my GOD, it is so GREAT to see another GIRL HERE!! ^_^ ;0) We'll all be SUCH great FRIENDS! Kekeke!" Every time I see it happen, some manner of disappointment ensues.

The Internet is even less like The Bachelorette than the real world. Somehow.
So exactly how rare are we delicate flowers of the Internet? A government study shows women have been represented on the Internet in the same percentages as we're represented in the real world since at least 2001. Great.

The Hollywood cliche has a pretty girl or made-over ugly duckling walking into a room for the first time, and guys standing speechless, shocked into silence by her beauty and the anomalous gust of slow motion wind that it just caused in the room. Well, if that's not happening to you already in real life, it's not going to start happening on the Internet.
First of all, see the previous point. There's way too much competition. Secondly, a lot of guys may come to the Internet looking for sex, but unfortunately for you, if all you're offering is a virtual, screen based proxy of sex, they've already found plenty of that. There's an abundance of porn and pictures of women who are hotter than you. I mean, they're paid to be. You can't compete with that.

You may be pretty, but are you control-the-wind pretty? Because she's just a Google Image Search Away, and she's wearing a small drape.
It's easy to mistakenly be flattered by requests like "pix plz" or "show us your boobs." While you envision men sitting at their keyboard, desperately drooling over the possibility of seeing your pictures, they used to the very next keystroke to go back to surfing a gallery of anal porn.

As desperate as you may be to read these words, trust me it's not worth it.
Even if you do follow through on giving him a look at what you're wearing or not wearing every five minutes, that's not as fun for him as you may think. There is, after all, a real life equivalent for that:

Yeah, don't expect the online version to turn out any better.

Or expecting your opinions to count more. I admit I used to think that every topic would benefit from "a fresh female perspective." That might be true if the topic is workplace discrimination or dating. But when someone is talking about Conan O'Brien versus Jay Leno, or whether we should get out of Iraq, there's absolutely no need for me to say, "If I may chime in as a woman..."

If I may offer a different opinion from a woman's perspective, I feel the Icelandic volcano ash is perfectly safe to fly through.
Once I went into a debate about something indirectly gender related and proceeded to educate everyone in a know-it-all fashion with some stuff I vaguely remembered reading in a Time magazine sidebar graphic, assuming everyone else would be completely ignorant on the subject since they were mostly male. Then a guy came along and corrected me with links to actual facts and information on the subject.
Which do you think the people in that argument found more valuable: My female perspective which just happened to be fresh because I was making it up, or some guy having actual facts and sources? I know, right? But for some reason everyone sided with the guy.
Anyway, it's going to be especially tempting for anyone who hasn't spent a lot of time in real world social settings to think she has an automatic bonus somewhere due to being born with breasts. I used to expect people to go, "Wow, she is very funny/artistic/whatever I was trying to impress people with. AND she's a woman!"

OK, so first of all, that goes against this whole equality thing us women have been aspiring to ever since the concept of feminism was invented by the Spice Girls in the early 90s. If I write a good article, make a good argument, or draw a good picture, why should it count more than a male doing the same thing?
Not only is it not morally fair, the world just doesn't work like that, online and off. There are too many females on the Internet for anyone to think you are the rare one that can draw or play video games while simultaneously having female anatomy. Now if you got drafted into the NFL or got a girl pregnant (or both), that might be something.

And not this NFL either.








Article is right on. Only downside is the possibility that all of these concepts are new and completely unknown to some people. So, you're a man / woman. So what. Kick some ass at whatever it is you do.
ReplyThere are no girls on the internet. None.
ReplyIn the first forum I ever visited nobody would have known (because of my writing) that I was female until the day (after two years) that a girl "fell in love" with me. And as the Personal Notice wasn't invented back then, I told her in a public thread that this probably wouldn't work out the way she intended. And that was it.
Reply Hide All See All 3 RepliesThe thing with the nerds worked however. Not to long after I met up with a guy who was convinced he had fallen in love with me. And he was exactly the guy you described up there: nerdy and never seen a women for years.
Turns out: If you meet a guy you wouldn't want to date in real life over the internet, it _doesn't make him a better person_, he is still a nerdy, self-centered and inexperienced guy who may make openly misogynistic comments directly into your face, and that you still wouldn't want to date him.
Man, a girl and guy fell in love with you on some forum and you shot them both down? I could really use some advice from you, then; I've been getting marriage proposals left and right, but I have trouble telling people no. The worst are the nude models. They can be so persistent!
OMG, I'm girl and even *I* agree with Giant Alien Robot!
Saciel, other than reinforcing the very same stereotype this article was condemning, what exactly did you hope to accomplish with that comment?
wtf that happened over the course of 9 years wtf is wrong with you people? Don't you have any contacts or ever talk to people over the internet?
Or do you imply I have to spend the rest of my life with every idiot that tells me I have to?
Sorry but *I* decide who I am going to be with and I don't think it is a matter of arrogance if I DON'T stay with the first guy that shows me attention especially if he is a total douchebag.
I'm a guy and post pictures of me saying "My face looks like Matt Damon and my abs like heaven. What?"
ReplyIt's not just girls.
You're a guy? Omg it's so GREAT to have another guy on here! LOL Welcome kekeke!
Nothing is more annoying than getting teamed up with one of 'those girls' in a game.
Reply"OMG, don't you think I'm, like, SO sexy because I'm a girl who plays video games? teehee oooh I think I hit something! OMG, I'm the best evar!"
I'm 9 months pregnant and home-schooling my 5-yr-old while I'm saving your worthless butt in this game, I really don't care that you have a vagina. What, do you want a cookie or something? Maybe my daughter will share her oreos.
Apparently, I act like a dude sometimes. It's always a bit funny to run into someone like that because they're usually trying to seduce me into giving them items.
My usual attitude is to put up an avatar that makes it pretty clear I'm female, and just assume that that's the end of the issue. It's worked pretty well so far.
ReplyI dated a girl once and we played FF11 together, we were in a linkshell(their name for guild) of about 30 or so and there were multiple girls, but the most active conversationally were my ex and one other girl. It was ridiculous how much they competed for attention in guild chat. I don't remember much specifics, but I do remember one time the other girl complained how hard it is to find shirts with a small waist and her big boobs, and she ran and complained how hard running is with big boobs.
ReplyMY ex ended up convincing the majority of the guys in the guild to transfer servers with out telling this other girl, the new server was way underpopulated, ruined the f*****g game for me, what a dumb bitch.
Oh Christina you naive little madam. If you didn't realise by now that most men were already prepared to accept that, hypothetically, that was you in that strip of 3 photos back there, and immediately commit you to "the bank", you never will.
ReplyYou have to admit, the jean-clothed shoulder was sexy sexy.
I liked the nose at the end... but... I'M A GIRL... oOoOoOoh
I know it is endemic in our society, but can we please learn what is irony and what isn't?
ReplyIt's when you use a little metal triangle and steam to get the wrinkles out of your shirts.
Wow, am I the only male who wanted to see a photo at the end of that article? Sure, you've mentioned how you are, or are not, cute, and you posted a close-up shot of yourself that shows your mouth, and thrown in the words "pouty, moist lips..."
ReplyYou're not going to wrap up the article with a photo? That'd be like Monty Python's Meaning of Life if they hadn't told us the meaning of life at the end!
I used to get really pissed about people assuming I'm a guy on the internet. I got used to it though, because it happened a lot. It's also partially my own fault, since I don't act especially girly.
Reply Hide All See All 3 RepliesI still read that with a man's voice in my head
Everything I said was stupid so I edited it out.
How do you act especially girly on the internet? Throwing around smileys? No, men do that, too. Makiiing looong syllables? Nope, you will only look like an idiot.
The only thing I don't like about being a girl is people making 'there aren't any girls on the internet' and 'Guy In Real Life' jokes. I am though an incredibly sexist woman against uh, women. One thing I really hate about other girls on the internet that I play games with is, "Hi I'm a girl. I'll pretend to like you and talk to you for like five minutes if you give me free stuff.
ReplyDon't be sad. Someone will want to buy you stuff, eventually.
Please tell me this Kenfaced is attempting to be ironic.
I appreciate that some people may never have experienced any extensive sexism on the internet. HOWEVER! There are certain places, unfortunately including an multiplayer game I happen to love, it really does matter. I've had games where all I do is say the enemy is missing in voice chat and not only do they ignore it and die but they refuse to listen to anything afterwards and instead make rude sexist comments throughout the game. This isn't an isolated incident either, this happens about once a week. Lesser forms of straight up harassment or refusal to cooperate happen in probably about half the games. That's not including the times when I'm just flat out arguing with a player and he chooses to use my gender to try and win the argument.
Reply Hide All See All 3 RepliesLoL, DotA or HoN? And about gender and game genre, from what I've seen in the past 6-7 years...
Ragnarok: Girls are goddesses and don't even need to really be girls. Don't even need to ask. On WoW however people don't seem to care. Or ask. So long as your gear is good, and you don't screw up in raids you're good.
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CS: Girls are bashed by the boys that want to look good to the other boys. Still there are some girls that play and they do sound like all they want is to get a few MSN, facebook or whatever contacts. On TF2 however, I have yet to see any sex based argument. You get bashed for playing poorly or not helping the team, but gender is not really accounted for.
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DotA, HoN and even LoL with it's supposed better community: Be ready to be raged at for pretty much anything. You can play from the us, have a team mate from japan, and one would probably blame the other's fart for causing defeat.
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What I concluded is pretty obvious, age is probably the most important factor.
@GiveMeCracked:
Well, if you're using voice I'm guessing it's HoN. Well, if it makes you feel better, if you were a guy, instead of sexist comments you'd probably get homosexualism comments. If you were jew you'd get nazi comments. If you were atheist you'd get catholic comments... What wouldn't change is the fact they'd still ignore missing/mia calls and die and then curse and argue. PS: In every game listed above there were a couple of cases of girls playing for the sake of playing. And they were pretty good at it. Usually they didn't actively try to hide the being a girl fact, but they just didn't make any fuss around it. Some did hide it.
You probably need to lose some weight and find a man to have sex with, and cook and clean for.
Like Patosai indicated- that is just them treating you like everyone else. Hooray! Women have achieved internet equality!
Hahaha, I prefer to leave my gender unspecified in most places on the web, because I tend to hang out in places where there's a lot of sexist people and want to avoid drama. Like, the only place where one actually even needs to mention it is in places like Facebook.
ReplyI'm really glad I didn't have easy access to the internet when I was a teenager. I'm sure I've done some of this stuff, but I'm sure that I would have done more of it if I got online much back then.
ReplyWomen shouldn't be on the internet. We should be in the kitchen..making sandwiches! Or playing video games. Or whatever it is us nerdy girls do.
ReplyNot existing sounds about right judging from personal experience. :D
Is Ryan saying nerdy girls don't exist?? Like, we are our own imaginary selves, or like, we are mytical creatures like Unicorns?
Even when studying feminism in philosophy in high school, I didn't really understand what people were complaining about. I've never felt like I lost out on anything or was treated any different for being a woman. That's probably because I'm not attractive enough to get drooling guys falling all over themselves, and don't have girly habits that make people think I'm stupid (eg: why did you drop $200 dollars on a pair of ugly boots when you always complain about how you have no money? You must be stupid.) I'm not doubting that it happens, but I've never experienced it (that I'm aware of, anyway)
ReplyIt's better to have personality and brains anyways. I love how you mentioned the Ugg(ly) boots XD. Why are those hideous things so damned expensive?! Personally I would much rather have a pair of Doc Martens, or another pair of kick-ass boots for about a quarter of the price.
Never experienced or never noticed? Well, call me retarded if you will, but it was not before I turned 25 that I noticed that were I not japanese descendant, I'd never have to hear that many eyes and small weiner jokes. And also how people expected me to have better grades than the others in the classroom.
Not sure how long ago was your high school, but get me as an example. I was born in 84. My family still clings to the old model where men are supposed to pay bills and women to keep the house clean. But is not something hardcoded, or written rule, is just that feeling of how things work that comes from years past.
Even to this day, feminism had enough progress that having women in high positions of government or whatever, like Argentina's president, is not as impressive as before. Still wages for women are indeed lower.
And don't be too quick to declare people stupid. Well, most people that look/talk/feel shallow are shallow. But every full moon maybe one of them could surprise you.
Seriously? This is what females are expecting going on the internet and into games? From one female to a bunch of others, no one cares about your gender in an online game. If you can't shoot then you get the boot, so to speak. =_=
ReplyI have a vagina, and I approve this message.
Reply Hide All See All 5 RepliesI have a message and approve vagina's
In a non-creepy way, of course
I have massaged a group of vaginas
In a completely creepy way, of course
Everyone here is a winner.
It has been years since I have seen a real vagina and I approve of this message.
I am a message and I approve this vagina!
Somewhat unrelated...but young woman rule the world...even 'nerdy' ones...seriously girls, if you want something all you have to do is ask and tons of guys will go rolling over each other to give it to you (no double entrande intended)
Reply Hide All See All 6 RepliesSpeaking as a woman, that's complete bullshit.
Speaking as a man, that's complete bullshit.
My comment was directed at bnevs18 of course
that's complete bullshit... If some guys are that desperate, you wouldn't want them to "give it to you"
No, especially the nerdy ones =P.
Speaking as Tilda Swinton, that's complete bullshit.