6 Baffling Mistakes Every Movie Criminal Makes
According to the movies, those who choose a career in organized crime are genuine mental enigmas so puzzling they make John Nash look like Kevin Federline. These people have made a career out of evading law enforcement and bypassing high-level security systems, yet when it comes down to making some common sense decisions, they are utter morons.
If you are looking for a life of crime, here's a Hollywood guide on what not to do:

As Seen In:
Pulp Fiction, Thief, Heat, American Gangster, Goodfellas
In Hollywood productions, criminals do not mess around. If they're willing to steal, they're usually also willing to murder, torture, and blow up anything that can possibly be blown up (and probably some things that quite honestly can't be blown up). Most of civilized society, however, tends to frown upon such behavior, and as such it's really not prudent to discuss those plans in public. Doing so may lead to death at the hands of a wisecracking, world-weary cop.
So, when one is planning heists, murders, and mind-blowingly awesome explosions, it might be smart to do so in a secure, isolated location where other people are unlikely to be found.
Just a suggestion.
What you would not do is hold your conferences in, say, a diner, with a couple dozen potential eavesdroppers in the vicinity.
It isn't like they don't have a choice in the matter. Most movie criminals have access to everything from military grade machine guns and vault-cutting lasers to Joe freakin' Pesci. We're expected to believe that they can't find a private room somewhere to act as a hide-out? Why can't they just meet in the same old "Desolate Woods on the Outskirts of the City" where they are always dumping bodies? Surely the corpse of Billy Bats is unlikely to snitch on them.

This sort of thing happens so often that we're surprised anyone living in the Crime Thriller universe still eats out, for fear they'll get caught in a crossfire at some point.
Worst Offender:
We could have gone with Heat, where Robert Deniro nearly murders a man in the crowded parking lot of a diner (foiled only because the guy pretty much vanishes into thin air like David freaking Copperfield) or American Gangster, where Denzel Washington's character actually gets up, walks down the sidewalk, and blows a dude's head off before walking calmly back into the diner to finish his meal.

But no, the prize has to go to Pulp Fiction, where a couple of robbers discuss robbing while sitting a diner, before robbing the same diner. At which point the robbery is thwarted because a couple of hitmen happened to be a few tables over, openly discussing the business of being hitmen.

As Seen In:
Heat, Reservoir Dogs, Goodfellas, Casino, Panic Room
When accepting new members into their gang, Hollywood criminals definitely need to work on their screening process. Joining a "crew", as it turns out, is even easier than winning a Grammy. You don't really need to possess a single useful skill at all, because there's this role that always needs to be filled: that of the terrifying madman who no one in their right mind would ever associate with.
While most movie bank robbers and stick-up men will only kill when it's necessary to get the job done, it's the job of the sociopath to kill people, who like, "didn't need to die man", all the while giggling like a little kid at Build-A-Bear workshop.
The other characters in the movie get pretty angry about such things, but really, it's their own fault. Who on earth plans a perfect crime and then decides it'd be a good idea to bring along their insane friend? There's some serious stuff at stake here. Despite what you may have come to believe after hours of playing Grand Theft Auto, the consequences of a botched crime job are often quite a bit worse than waking up in a hospital with a little less money than you used to have.
Collective IQ=7
Worst Offender:
Goodfellas. In other crime films, the madman is usually used for one job. After making the mistake of inviting the crazy kid to the party once, the characters learn the lesson and the psychopath winds up dead (or everyone else does).

In this film, however, Joe Pesci's sociopath remains close friends with the main characters for decades, even though he uses every second of screen time to prove that he is the most violently impulsive human being on the planet. In real life, the mob would never ...
Wait, that was based on a true story?
Holy shit. Once again, it turns out real life is more retarded than fiction.

As Seen In:
Oceans 11, 12, 13. The Departed, Panic Room, Bonnie & Clyde
You know those girls on Myspace who have 23,138 friends? It doesn't matter to them that no human being needs that many friends, or that no person could maintain a reasonable level of sanity with that many people bugging them to hang out. The large number makes them feel popular and validated. Well, Hollywood thinks that criminals are pretty much the same.
Sure, they might not need a lot of people to pull off a job, but won't the innocent bystanders be impressed to see a dozen dudes strolling into the bank in ski masks?
"Shit, there's an old lady. I knew we shoulda brought four guys."
Wrong. Absolutely freaking wrong. First of all, let's think of the motive that drives these characters. Greed. For them, it is indeed all about the Benjamins, and the fact of the matter is, the more people involved in the crime, the smaller the shares, and therefore less cash for everyone.
Second of all, with so many people in on the plan, the odds of getting caught rise exponentially. Hell, how many people would you trust with a secret that could send you to jail?
Worst Offender:

The Oceans 11 series. This only gets worse as the series goes on, and they have to keep inflating the roster and the size of the heist. By the fifth or sixth movie they'll have enough guys to rob an armored car by just gathering around it and carrying it way.








For Oceans 11 each person played a unique role that they needed to succeed. They were robbing a casino, not a corner shop so you can't really say they should have used less people.
ReplyAnd how about do business meetings in a nest of vampires?
ReplyAdding on to the unnecessary killing of #1 should be bad guys shooting their subordinates for making a mistake.
Reply"... it's pretty odd when a cop can gain access so easily to the criminal organization even though no one knows anything about him. But in this film, the bad guys do know something about him: ... he was in training at the police academy."
ReplyWell, with 'The Departed', Billy Costigan actually took years to get cozy with Costello (takes place over the course of 2-4 years, if you pay attention), had a violent history on the south side of Boston, is part of a whole family of indecent people (including pedophiles, drug dealers, and henchmen), was a nephew to formerly one of Costello's most trusted in Jackie Costigan and was the son of a man Costello deeply respected, was kicked out of the Academy for the same kind of violence he exhibited as a kid, and of course, made some serious moves against The Mafia based in Providence before getting in with Costello (something that wouldn't avoid attention, like a normal undercover cop in the movies).
Granted, that may only rule out 'The Departed' for me, but if you asked me, 'Reservoir Dogs' is the worst offender on this list, of many things. Oh, so you can SMOOTH TALK your way into a gang? People's overlove of Tarantino blind them to a lot of faults in his movies, especially that of 'Reservoir Dogs' and the 2nd half of 'Inglourious Basterds'.
How about the criminal explaining his entire plot to his victims or those who are trying to catch him once he thinks he will get away with the crime ? What is the point in that, to brag about how smart he is ? Why bother taking even the remote risk that that could come back to hurt you? A lot of times this helps the heroes stop his plan or it can be used against him later in a court of law.
ReplyYou mean #3?
The Joker's real henchmen are insane. That famuse scene form heat like Goodfellas is based on a 100% true story. And so is Donnie Brasco.
ReplyWith regards to Joker killing off his mooks seemingly "randomly" it makes perfect sense, he knew he needed all those guys to pull off the job, but since he wanted the entire take for himself, he sets up the insane plan to kill them off, also to the joker it was probably one of the most hilarious things he'd done up to that point.
ReplyI'm sure others have pointed out that Hans Gruber could only get into the vault if the FBI thought he and his underlings were terrorists.
ReplyThis still begs the question: why not rob a vault that DOESN'T require the FBI's involvement to open?
Should be titled: "6 Ways real men do business."
ReplyI mean it could be "6 Baffling Mistakes Every Crooked Politician Makes"
these arent even tv tropes. this how it work in real life. You ever met a CEO? Sociopath!
My brother-in-law has been a police detective for 20+ years. I am quoting him here: "The only reason anyone ever gets caught is when they do something stupid. Being even basically intelligent and not being impulsive is pretty much a guarantee you'll get away with anyting."
ReplyFood for thought!
Also: what's "MySpace"?
Also helps to put together a solid game plan before pulling the heist. If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.
The objection to the gun battle in Heat makes sense if you're talking about the heist at the beginning of the movie, but by the bank robbery they're already wanted murderers. That gun battle is perfectly rational in that context, because they're trying to escape a murder rap, not just a robbery charge.
ReplyI've got to disagree with the "new guy" winner being The Departed. They explain a whole bunch of reasons why Nicholson's character trusts DiCaprio's, and they suspect him for most of the movie. They explain his background and upbringing and his family and thats why he is accepted into the crew, and his backstory was carefully manipulated to make it believable. Also, there was a mole with the police attempting to find out who the rat in the crew was and Matt Damon's character assured Nicholson that it was not DiCaprio. Maybe watch the movie next time.
ReplyAgreed - Reservoir Dogs is clearly the winner there. Joe even said the guy was the only one he wasn't 100% on and that he should have his head examined for going ahead when he wasn't 100%.
Another nitpick - in #6, it says the robbery in Pulp Fiction was thwarted by the hitmen - but Jules let the robbers take everything except his wallet (after giving them the cash inside) and Marcellus' briefcase. They got away with all the money from the diner and the wallets, jewelry, and cell phones of every other person in the diner.
If they were fast, sure.
While there is some truth to most entries you picked the wrong movies for the wrong reasons. I'll spare you with a lengthy rebuttal type of rant for each entry, though. Just saying that in most of all mentioned cases the characters had very good reasons for their actions. Not to mention that many of those are basing on true events and characters.
ReplyYeah I heard Henry Hill say that Thomas DeSimone and James Burke were much more extreme in reality. And the second especially scared the f**k out of him because he was calcuting too.
Reply#3, no mention of The Usual Suspects?! Really?
ReplyProbably because there's a world of difference between casually mocking someone who is trying to catch you (the smug bastards in #3) and being interrogated by the police while you're being held for questioning (The Usual Suspects). Furthermore, in The Usual Suspects, Kevin Spacey leads the police to jump to the conclusion that his fall guy is the guy they're looking for. The police don't even discover they've been had until after he's been released from custody (again, not the same as willingly having a chat with your pursuer to mock their pursuit), and even then it's only because a witness survived.
secure, isolated location where other people are unlikely to be found. Then it shows picture of North Dakota. You got the description right.
Reply Hide All See All 3 RepliesAre you f*****g retarded?
@Syn i see your sense of humor is busted, would you like to borrow mine?
@syn I actually live in North Dakota. There's not exactly a lot of excitement or people.
haha robert deniro Almost guns a man down in a crowded parking lot..what about jackie brown? where he does kill some annoying blonde
ReplyUnless he did it in the airport then what about Jackie Brown?
Mentioned a few times before, but what the heck...
ReplyIn the book Donnie Brasco(written by Joe Pistone) it shows just how long it took him to get cozy with the mob, and also the close calls caused by him being the new guy.
On the other hand, his intelligence, education, training, experience and lack of the usual wiseguy self-destructive behavior certainly helped speed him along on his new "career".
On number 2, I'm surprised Usual Suspects wasn't cited. If you've seen it, you know what I mean!! If you haven't, WATCH IT!!! It is the most masterful tale of $#!T (once you hit the end) Then again, the sociopath one might also apply.
ReplyNumber Two has been around forever. White Heat is a good example: somehow G-Man Edmond O'Brien convinces psycho gangster James Cagney that he's a valuable member of the team *and* his best bud. Border Incident does this too with an INS agent joining an immigrant smuggling gang. Even in Serpico (though nominally a cop movie and based on a true story) it takes years for the crooked cops to figure out who's selling them out.
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