5 Classic Movies That Seemed Like Terrible Ideas At The Time
The thing about a huge pop-culture phenomenon is that it seems so obvious after the fact. It's impossible to imagine people not going wild for something like Star Wars. But at the time, when the checks were being written and not a single ticket had been sold? Yeah, it was a different story. In fact, a lot of the biggest hits in Hollywood history sounded absolutely ridiculous in concept.
So let's start with ...

You are an executive at a movie studio. A young director is coming off a hugely successful movie about teens in 1960s America called Amerian Graffiti. For his next project, he wants more than 10 times that budget to shoot a huge special effects feature with the catchy title Adventures of Luke Starkiller, as Taken from the Journal of the Whills, Saga I: The Star Wars. The original two-page treatment where he outlines the story begins, "This is the story of Mace Windy, a revered Jedi-bendu of Ophuchi, as related to us by C.J. Thorpe, padawaan learner to the famed Jedi."
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"Oh, and he says 'motherfucker' a lot."
Do you write this man a huge check? Or do you call security?
It Seems Obvious Now ...
When it comes to blockbuster movie franchises, Star Wars feels like cheating. A simplistic story of good and evil told over the backdrop of the greatest special effects ever filmed and featuring a smirking Harrison Ford in his prime? Add in the fact that everything you saw on screen could be turned into a kick-ass toy or action figure and it seems like the Hollywood version of an infinite money cheat code. That's how it looks now.
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George Lucas: Proof that you don't need the support of a giant studio to sell out.
But at the Time ...
Actually, even George Lucas didn't really want to make Star Wars. He wanted to give us a 1970s reboot of the 1930s sci-fi adventure series Flash Gordon. But the rights had already been purchased by Italian producer Dino De Laurentiis, so Lucas had to build his own version effectively from scratch. His own expensive, totally incoherent version.

"Underneath every stormtrooper's helmet is Dino De Laurentiis' head."
And what reason did anyone have to think that Lucas could make a world-changing fantasy blockbuster? The only thing remotely similar on his resume was 1971's THX 1138, a bleak, weird film that had been dismissed as incomprehensible by the studio and bombed at the box office. So imagine being the studio executives when this bearded guy brings in his 200-page script that, as we have pointed out before, was a confusing mish-mash of insanity. Even personal friends of Lucas admitted that they couldn't understand what the script was about.
Sure enough, the studio, Universal, passed, but 20th Century Fox stepped in and gave Lucas $8.5 million, maybe because they were afraid of what he might do otherwise.

If they'd have only known ...
So then Lucas flew off to shoot in Great Britain and Tunisia, while in the U.S. a team of untried special effects artists gathered to start making movie magic. After a year, that FX team had blown half their budget and had exactly three usable special effects shots to show for it. Lucas and some Fox executives dropped in on them to find out what the hell was going on and found the crew standing around, having a refrigerator lifted and dropped on the concrete in front of them because "everyone kinda wondered how it would sound."

And that's where the Death Star explosion came from.
Things weren't going any better in Europe, where Lucas's British crew began to openly mock and rebel against him, taking breaks without permission and refusing to work the long hours they'd need to meet the deadline. The production soared over budget.
But once the actual movie was completed, everybody realized what a work of genius it was, right?

Nope. No theater chain wanted it -- the sci-fi fantasy was completely out of step with the sci-fi hits of the era (they were all dark, adult films like Soylent Green and Logan's Run). To avoid having to just sit on this expensive turkey, 20th Century Fox resorted to underhanded means to get it into theaters -- they told the theaters they couldn't have an upcoming hit (The Other Side of Midnight) unless they agreed to take this Star Wars turd along with it (a practice that is actually illegal).
Thus, Star Wars was booked into a whopping 39 theaters for its grand opening in the hopes that it would at least make a little bit of its money back. All but one of those theaters saw this weird sci-fi fantasy break their all-time attendance records. At the end of all that, the crazy bearded guy was right.
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That's a wedding, 30 years after the movie's release.

The pitch had to have sounded something like this: "So, I know that literally every single pirate movie ever made has been a bomb. But this one will be based on a Disney ride. And it will star that weird guy from all of those Tim Burton movies. Oh, and I'll need $140 million."

"We're not sure if he's gay or not, but we think we can keep the audience guessing, too."
It Seems Obvious Now ...
The Pirates of the Caribbean franchise boasts four movies and over $3.6 billion in worldwide box office, plus billions more in DVD, merchandise and video games. And why not? The math is unbeatable: Disney, plus Jerry Bruckheimer, plus Johnny Depp hamming it up in his most famous role, plus monstrous special effects budgets. The only mystery here is why nobody thought of it before.

We know, you're rich. You can stop gloating now.
But at the Time ...
It had been thought of before. And each time, it was a disaster.
It started in 1986, when Roman Polanski did the huge-budget film Pirates. It cost $40 million to make, an absurd number in 1986 money (by comparison, the effects-heavy Star Trek IV that came out the same year cost only $21 million, and it was the most expensive Trek movie ever made). And what did they get for their $40 million investment? Less than $7 million in box office worldwide.

Walter Matthau couldn't quite make the leap from zany football coach to dashing pirate.
OK, so maybe that was an isolated incident. A decade later, Hollywood tried again with Cutthroat Island -- a pirate movie with a $100 million budget, directed by the guy who made Die Hard 2. It was an even bigger disaster -- it only made $10 million on its nine-figure investment. Even Steven Spielberg's Hook was a disappointment. So was Muppets Treasure Island, and it had the Muppets AND Tim Curry. Oh yeah, and also there was a little movie called Treasure Planet that was made and released just a year before PotC ... that was the biggest bomb in Disney's history. Holy shit! Pirates are freaking box office poison.

"Now that we've eaten all the studio's money, let's go shit it over there."
After all that, you have these nutjobs asking for $140 million to make another pirate movie. And the draw is, what, the freaking Disney World ride? Don't say that Johnny Depp was supposed to put asses in the seats -- his biggest box-office hit at the time he was cast was Tim Burton's Sleepy Hollow. His next biggest hit? Chocolat. Neither of which made as much as this pirate movie's proposed budget.
The whole thing plays out like Disney was trying to intentionally lose money for some complicated investment scheme, like in The Producers. When it made $46 million that first weekend, you can just imagine a couple of conniving producers screaming "Goddamnit!"

Yes, we KNOW, already!

If you're a struggling actor, how desperate would you have to be to reply to a listing that goes something like:
"WANTED: A group of actors to spend eight cold days in the woods shooting a fake documentary. This is an independent project. There is no script. You will be traumatized and your reaction will be captured on camera. After the movie, you must avoid the public eye and we will tell people you are dead."

"Oh, no problem, dude. I was planning on doing that anyway."
Would you even expect to come back from that kind of project alive? It sounds like a snuff film intended to be sold on the streets of Thailand.
It Seems Obvious Now ...
Combining everything we hate about shaky-cam, viral marketing and reality shows, the no-budget The Blair Witch Project would make nearly $250 million worldwide. Or, to put it another way, it made back its budget 10,000 times over. The 25 grand they spent making the thing wouldn't even cover a month's worth of catering costs on most studio films.
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And that's just for George Lucas. OOOOOH, BAM!
It did it all with a unique hook and an ingenious marketing plan, creating a viral Internet campaign back in 1999, when most studios were still trying to figure out what the Internet even was. They promoted the faux-documentary as a true story, indicating that all of the characters had been killed (actors were prevented from doing publicity until close to release to keep up the illusion). Their website was full of hidden clues and extra materials -- the template for the "alternate reality games" filmmakers like J.J. Abrams now do with every release.
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"I'm sorry. I have a legitimate problem, and I'm seeking help."
The filmmakers clearly had a plan, and with so little invested, how could it fail?
But at the Time ...
Actually, The Blair Witch Project was about the most stupid thing writers/directors/producers Eduardo Sanchez and Daniel Myrick could have done.
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"Jackass auditions were closed."
First, you have to realize that a studio didn't fund this. So when we talk about $25,000 being "no-budget," that's true if you're talking about Disney or Paramount. That's not true for a couple of dudes who had no careers to speak of. And that was the situation in October of 1997 -- the filmmakers behind Blair Witch were an unsuccessful pair in their late 20s and mid 30s, both deeply in credit card debt. So what did they do? They conceived of a highly experimental Hail Mary final project that would drive them tens of thousands of dollars deeper into debt. The project had literally no commercial prospects -- a no-name cast, no specials effects and no distribution lined up. The film was shot on hand-held cameras that weren't even in widescreen and that, by the way, caused motion sickness for the audience. For them, it was like trying to bail out a sinking boat by vomiting in it.

The same handprints were found in theaters after the movie finished.
But those two couldn't bring all the stupid to the table alone. They needed to find a cast of three alleged film students who would agree to go camping, in the cold, on camera, with little food and supplies (the filmmakers wanted their physical distress to look genuine). Needless to say, they didn't exactly get the cream of the crop here. One of the stars would be the recently recovered heroin addict Joshua Leonard. Oh, and he would be the one operating the camera. During the early scenes, he couldn't get the camera to focus properly and wrecked a lot of the footage. Later in the woods, he rolled down a hill and broke the $10,000 camera.

We guess they're lucky he didn't sell it for smack.
Again, this isn't studio equipment here. Imagine you're these two filmmakers, trying this never-before-tried filmmaking method out in the woods, and seeing $10,000 of money you don't have go tumbling down a hill. Now imagine that the two other actors fuck up just as often, managing to get lost despite having walkie-talkies, compasses and clear directions on where they were supposed to go for the next day's shoot. And along the way, they're arguing with each other so much that director Eduardo Sanchez estimated 10 hours of fits and bitchfests were shot.

"YOU SAY MEAN THINGS TO THE FACE OF MY NECK RAARR!"
Never mind the unlikelihood that this movie would become as big as it did: the real miracle was that there was any footage that survived to make into a movie in the first place. But they edited their piles of tape down to a brisk 90 minutes, hoping to get a deal to show it on cable or maybe direct-to-video. Instead, a studio bought the rights for $1.1 million, and in its first weekend of wide release, The Blair Witch Project made back 35 times that amount.








Well Im glad we got a good trilogy out of Star Wars. Thanks to the studio who re wrote the script and made it something decent. Btw, Lucas is the biggest hack on the planet. He's a competent director and thats about it. He cant write a story for his life. Proof? Original Star Wars script. The prequels. There ya have it.
ReplyGreat article!!
Reply"until this moment, did you even realize that's what that movie was about?"
ReplyDamn...how'd they know?
It’s hilarious to me how much Blair Witch pissed so many people off. Whenever I can afford to take in a picture I make sure I do a bit of searching around so I don’t waste my money. How can someone go to a movie with a budget less than the price of a new car and then b***h that “nothing happened”? That’s barely enough money to shoot and process the film, you were expecting explosions on top of it?
ReplyLuckily I got to see it for free two nights before it was released (my buddy’s brother-in-law runs a local theatre and they have private screenings sometimes) and the reveal that it was fake hadn’t happened yet so we got to go into it fresh. Admittedly I was 98% sure it was all fake but it made for a great ride when we didn’t know for sure. I wish the actors would’ve kept their mouths shut for another month or so, surely it would’ve pulled in many millions more.
But for its time it was very inventive and innovative (though at least two movies had used the fake documentary style for horror flix before it came out) and just because people have abused the shaky-cam to an insane degree since then doesn’t mean it wasn’t novel at the time. I also loved the fact that a couple of guys with a vision and a few credit cards could MacGyver out a movie that everyone wanted to see and which made them a tidy sum in the process.
I just want to comment on something you said in the middle paragraph, you say "Admittedly I was 98% sure it was all fake..."; I believe most people were about that sure it was fake, but don't you agree that the 2% uncertainty was what made that movie so effective? Everyone was PRETTY sure it was fake... you know, until they went out camping and it got dark, and their jackass friend started shaking the tent and screaming. I think that may have been one of the strongest selling points for that movie.
Didn't Treasure Planet, Cutthroat Island, and Pirates (1987)
ReplyALL kill the respective studio divisions that promoted them
(Walt Disney's Animation Studio, Orion, Carolco?) as in, they had to shut down the studio.
Not to say Treasure Planet isn't a surprisingly good film. It has cyborg pirates, hoverboards, and Forbidden Planet references. Perhaps ninjas and/or zombies are the missing ingredient?
I liked Treasure Planet...it was awesome. Blair Witch Project scared the s**t out of me though. I was only like 10 when I saw it, and my dad thought it would be funny to have me watch it in a tent in our yard. We basically live in the Blair Witch Woods, too.
ReplyI thought I was going to die that night no lie. Too scared to stay in the tent but too scared to run for the house. Looking back it was some awesome parenting.
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ReplyTim Curry can make any movie amazing.
ReplyBut... But I liked Treasure Planet.... Besides that great article!
Replynever said it was a bad movie, just that it was a flop.
Has anyone mentioned yet that the Blair Witch Project idea was stolen from a German film?
ReplyI want to meet the man that pitched the idea of Kingdom Hearts to Disney. He must have been some kind of negotiating genius. "Let's combine your time honored Mickey Mouse with spiky hair and gigantic Japanese swords! Also, the main character would be from the Final Fantasy universe and all the Disney characters will be sidekicks or bad guys!" And it was the greatest game ever made.
Reply Hide All See All 3 RepliesThat's stretching things a bit. It wasn't a bad game, but it wasn't great either
It was a suprisingly decent RPG, considering.
They don't know what they're talking about, KH is the BEST!
I love the treasure island story and Treasure Planet and the Muppets Treasure Island are both amazing! I wish they got the following they deserved
ReplyMuppets Treasure Island was fantastic, and it's gained a significant following since.
As a kid I damn near wore the Muppets Treasure Island VHS out.
5 Classic Movies That Still Seem Like Terrible Ideas To Me Nevermind The Money They Took
ReplyCongratulations on using sarcasm to admit that you entirely missed the point of the article.
Walt Disney looks like Tim Roth as Tony Montana in Scarface (the new one) as Walt Disney.
Reply"You leave Bill Murray alone, Holocaust!"
ReplyOMG I just busted out laughing at that caption.
Lord of the Rings may deserve a place on this list. Some producer saw Peter Jackson, a man who up until that point was known for micro-budget splatter movies, and allowed him to film a multi-million dollar back-to-back trilogy more-or-less completely independently in, of all places, New Zealand. That's a gamble and I'm glad to see it paid off.
Reply Hide All See All 4 Replies"Of all places, New Zealand"... really? NZ had been established as where you film for fantasy genre material well before those movies were shot there.
Also, Jackson had already made a marginally successful big-budget Hollywood film, Frightners, starring a healthy Michael J. Fox in (sadly) one of his last leading roles. And the only reason Jackson got that job was because Dead Alive, one of his previous low-budget splatter films, was so successful relative to its budget that Hollywood had already deemed Peter Jackson a fairly safe bet.
...Then he made King Kong.
I'd also like to say that people thought it would be impossible to turn LotR into movies after the disaster of an animated film.
I thought it might be on here too, just on the basis that for so many years a Lord of the Rings movie series was thought to be impossible and they were so confident in the success of theirs that they filmed all 3 more or less simultaneously.
Actually Blair Witch was a UCF student film and it was finished for free at Full Sail...they bought most of their gear, then returned it to the store they bought it to attempt to get their money back....they showed at Sundance and got screwed when it was bought for $1.1 Million because they saw NONE of the return. I'm sure they're kicking themselves now, since none of them have careers.
ReplyThe part about them having no careers is not entirely true. Check out the movies "The Objective" and "Believers". Far from the best movies ever, but definitely worth a look.
They should have asked for points on the gross... regardless how well or poorly they expected it to do.
I'm still waiting to see a Cracked article that nails Lucas to the wall for having little to do with the actual making and success of Star Wars. I can't post links but it's googlable. After the tragedy of the 2nd trilogy I think it's pretty common knowledge, due to a number of interviews and documentaries, that everything anybody loves about the original movies not only was not due to Lucas but precisely because the team working with him overruled his decisions and didn't let him f**k it up.
ReplyMeh lucas bashing. Gets old.
Not a big fan of Blair Witch, but I owe to it the existence of Rec, and for that I am grateful.
ReplyBlair Witch...WOW, people are stupid. I must say that I've never seen this movie because I'm not a RETARD. I've never had to with all the crap commentaries and negative critics. I never bought into all the internet bullshit because I'm not a RETARD. Shaky cameras making people puke in the theaters, what a bunch of f*****g RETARDS. Anyone who goes to see this kind of s**t is a sheep - who wastes $10 and 2 hours of their life because "tapes were found" and "based on a true story" - bunch of f*****g RETARDS. Don't you realize that giving them money determines what kind of movies they make in the future? Reminds me of They Live. Put on the sunglasses people so you can see the signs around you that read "CONSUME." Also, if you like this movie - F that, if you've ever seen this movie, stay the f**k away from me because I don't like to mesh with RETARDS.
Reply Hide All See All 10 RepliesMad much?
I watched the movie on netflix. Not because i believed it was real but because I wanted to see why people thought it was real. You go around blindly hating stuff you have never seen. How doesn't that make you a "RETARD" I'm not saying the movie was good at all but I have wasted my time in worse ways before. Like trying to tell a blindly hating troll that he's wrong. Oh and in case you don't understand words like this I'll put it in your language. DUH f*g YOU'RE A DOUCHE f**k q***r GO SUCK A c**k I FUCKED YOUR MOM!
It's like he's a movie snob who knows f**k all about movies.
lol u mad
I'm not a RETARD. You're a RETARD. You're also a retard, retard.
While I agree that Blair Witch Project sucked (hard), it isn't the shaky-cam that makes it suck. First-person movies can be quite good if done right, or they can at least enjoyable.
Secondly, you shouldn't get all bitchy about a crappy movie, especially if you've never seen it.
The word RETARD must be typed in all caps. It is ape law!
Trust me, if this post is any indication of your true personality/intelligence, I'm sure you don't have many more options than to "mesh" with "RETARDS".
I remember watching Blair Witch Project as a child and getting all these mixed emotions of fear, fascination and thrill. It was the movie which drew me into the horror movie genre.
Agreed with Baldseal...I was only 9 when I saw it, and I thought it was awesome. I haven't seen it since then, and I kind of want to watch it again.