6 Movie Guardians Who Shouldn't Be Allowed Near Children

Alfred isn't just Bruce Wayne's butler -- he was the young Bruce's legal guardian after his parents were shot and killed in an alley.
Luckily for Bruce, Alfred appears to be an extremely caring and compassionate man, and while his parents' death was quite tragic, children have recovered from much worse. Also, he is rich and thankfully can be given the best psychological care money can buy. It's pretty much the best-case scenario for such an ordeal; no doubt with Alfred's help, Mr. Wayne can grow up to become an accomplished business man and a productive member of society ...

... or, you know, a giant vengeful bat.
Let's be honest here. It's fun to watch Batman, but it's not fun to be Batman. And if the kid you raised grows up to dress like a bat and wander the night fighting the mentally insane, you failed that child.
Let's go back for a moment to his childhood, After his parents' funeral, young Bruce Wayne blames himself for their deaths, and Alfred reassures him by saying, "It was nothing you did; it was him, and him alone." Which clearly plants a pretty big seed, because we then see that about 10 years later, Bruce is still carrying his grudge. He is so hateful that he actually attempts to assassinate the guy when he is released from jail.

Also, he spends years wandering around strange, muddy foreign countries and trying to get murdered. Which probably counts as "maladaptive" behavior.
Again, cool to watch in a movie, but not a healthy way to deal with grief. Couldn't Alfred have had at least a sit-down with Bruce about this during those 10 years? Or gotten him help, if he didn't think he was capable of getting through to him himself?
Then, after this attempt, Bruce Wayne runs away for seven years. During that time he is declared dead, and Alfred inherits everything. EVERYTHING. Then, after his adventures, Bruce finally decides to return home and is picked up by Alfred in a jet while covered in bruises and mud. Upon seeing him, Alfred says, "Master Wayne, you've been gone a long time. You look very fashionable. ..."
Seriously, Alfred? Not a single fuck you give?

"Ah, Master Wayne. So you'll just be standing around in the dark, surrounded by bats tonight? Very good, sir."
Alfred doesn't care about this man's well-being -- the man he raised as his own son. When Bruce shares his plans to dress up like a bat and risk his life every night to fight crime, clearly as a result of his lingering grief over his parents, Alfred just rolls with it. He's totally cool with it.
Could it be, perhaps, that Alfred's compliances with Bruce, as opposed to any kind of guidance or resistance, have something to do with who gets even more rich if Mr. Wayne kicks it?

"Master Wayne, I think this time you should try fighting the Joker unarmed. And nude."

Star Trek has been around so long, and we take it so much for granted, that we don't really stop and think about how weird the Starship Enterprise is.

Oh, hey, it's happy hour.
They seem to use it for everything: In one episode it's a warship, like the equivalent of a modern aircraft carrier. In another, it's acting more like a diplomatic vessel serving as an ambassador to alien races. But overall, they always talk about it first and foremost as an exploration vessel, more the equivalent of the old sailing ships that sat out to find the New World, knowing mortal danger may lurk over the horizon.
But the day-to-day atmosphere inside is more like that of a cruise ship. For instance, there are children on board.

You see them in the background of numerous episodes, and various plots involve them in one capacity or another. So ... why are they allowed on the ship? Anyone? Let's look at the ship's mission, which any even casual viewer knows by heart:
"Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. It's continuing mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before!"

Bah! Nah Nah NAH! Nah Nah NAAAH!
Boldly going where no one has gone before -- meaning places full of unknown beings, diseases and environmental dangers we may not know how to deal with. And we brought our kids along.
Can you remember any time in history when human beings thought that was ever a good idea? Especially considering that this ship we are talking about is the freaking flagship of the Federation, an institution that already has way more enemies than you could shake a bat'leth at. The Enterprise gets attacked every other week.

Not to mention the space pedophiles.
And the danger to the kids isn't hypothetical; in one episode, a bunch of kids get kidnapped by aliens. In another, a tour group of kids almost gets killed when the ship malfunctions.

"Ah ... that, little Johnny, is a Romulan Bird-of-Prey. The green glow is the disruptor powering on."
There are other episodes where children get singled out and tormented by alien races, such as one where a little girl's imaginary friend turns out to be a homicidal being, or when a young boy's dead mother comes back to life as an alien, presumably studying how much you can traumatize a human child.

Give Mommy a kiss!
And it's not even like the Enterprise is just the victim of bad luck here, like it's an innocent fishing boat continually getting surprise-attacked by pirates. No, they used this ship to attack the Borg, a race of half-robots with no emotion hell-bent on taking over the entire human race. With the children on board.

Hey, it worked out pretty well for Seven of Nine.
What makes it even stranger: We can't think of an occasion where the crew has considered the safety of the children in any way when making decisions.
In the last TNG film, the new Enterprise is carrying a wedding party with it (cruise ship mode) when it is ordered to fly into enemy territory on a mission (battle ship mode). Long story short, this doesn't end well, and Captain Picard is left with a ship half blown open and finds himself face-to-face with the enemy's giant doomsday ship. His only choice is to ram the front of the Enterprise into the bad guy without any warning ... to anyone.
Now anybody (OK, maybe just nerds) can tell you what's at the front of the Enterprise -- it's a place called Ten Forward, a lounge where people go to socialize. But more importantly, according to previous episodes of the show it is also one of many emergency shelter locations in case of a deck evacuation within the ship ... something that had happened earlier in the battle. All of the men, women and children would have been huddled there.
And they use it as a goddamned battering ram.

Mazel tov!

Ahhh, Indiana Jones. Professor of archaeology at Marshall College and father of one hideous greaser.

It's tough to imagine that this character would be bad for children when he pretty much raised an entire generation into adulthood. He's smart and courageous and can improvise the most elaborate stunt on the fly. He's the ultimate male role model, right?
He does have a thing for young women -- Marion was in her teens when Indy did her, which kind of puts the "female student who has a crush on him" thing in the third film in a new light.

That's two-thirds of a lawsuit, right there.
But these are young adults -- hell, most of his students are over 18, which, while still creepy, is not illegal. So what's the big deal? It's not like Indiana just walks around endangering random little kids he finds on the street!

How did they wind up together? Indiana caught the 10-year-old picking his pocket on the street and then took him. Seriously, that's what happened in Temple of Doom -- Indy found an orphan on the street, named him like a dog and then used him as his own personal assistant instead of taking him somewhere that he could be taken care of.

Don't pretend any one of you wouldn't trade places with him in an instant to hang out with Indiana Jones all day.
One could argue that Short Round is better off being raised by Indy -- as opposed to just being put in some hole somewhere with other abandoned children -- but first, that's not Indy's legal decision to make, and second, do you recall ever seeing him after this film? Temple is a prequel -- it takes place one year before Raiders, so in the span of one year, Short Round basically disappears. Where did he go? Seriously, what the hell happened to Short Round? Did Indy forget to refill his water dish before going on vacation or something?
Actually, it's too bad he didn't have him around in Raiders; or else Indy could have used him as one of the child human shields he surrounded himself with when he was about to be killed by Belloq.

Yes, this happened.
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As I recall, the Enterprise traveled with the officers families it even had schools. They only went battled when necessary. The mission was more of research than war.
ReplyI think it was announced at some point by Nolan that the end was reality. Cobb stopped dreaming, he was actually back in the real world with his kids.
Replynope
I remember watching TNG as a kid and, even with my childhood fantasies about being a member of the Enterprise crew, thinking "That's f*****g crazy that they have kids on board."
ReplyIn Inception, I am pretty sure they had kids before spending decades in limbo.
Replyto be fair, Alfred says in the trailer for TDKR that he failed to look after Bruce Wayne, so your argument is rendered moot due to acknowledgement from the subject. that being said, Alfred rules!
Replyso a murderer should be set free after confessing to have killed someone, because any argument is rendered moot due to acknowledgement from the subject. Killing rules!
okay as a trekkie i have to say you suck for no research. the Enterprise from tng was designed for a 15-20 yr mission so basically like a colony ship. the Enterprise from the tng movies was a warship and as such did not carry and children. do some research next time.
ReplyGotta love Sallah's 8 or 9 children acting as Indy's bodyguards. I still don't think I've ever been able to count just how many there actually were because they all kept moving around.
ReplyCracked, you have forever changed my viw of Alfred....damn you
ReplyGiven time lapses in the dream world, it's possible they already had the kids before Mal was incepted. After all, 50 years in Limbo is only a few hours in our world.
ReplyWhich clears up a lot of plot holes. Though the whole murderous corporation still chasing everyone down thing does stand out as a serious unresolved issue.
That's what I had assumed. The reason she wanted to commit suicide was to "go back to their real children in the real world" and if she thought they had been dreaming since they left limbo, they would to have already had the kids before that.
Whaaaaaat?! Bruce Willis was dead in "The Sixth Sence???!!! I knew i was missing something about that film.
ReplyIt's not really Leo's fault that people are saying that he killed his wife. He didn't do it, and there's not much he could have done at that point to make it look like he was innocent. Should he just have abandoned his kids because it was better than making them live through the embarrassment of having him as a father?
ReplyAs for what he can tell them about how she died, couldn't he just say she killed herself? Because, you know, she did.
And the last shot was the spinning top, but the shot before that was him looking away before he could see whether it fell or not. He decided he didn't care if it was reality or not. Which maybe spells bad things for his real children, if it was a dream in the end, but doesn't mean that he won't love the children he's with.
he abandoned his kids because he was convicted for murder. It is not that Mel just killed herself, but set up an elaborate trap to make it look like Dom killed her. That is why he had to run away.
And it is not certain that he did not decide if it was reality or not, he might have looked away from the spinning top because he was too thrilled to see his kids again and just forgot about the top. In any event he could get back and check the top later. It is not that he can't just spin it again later.
how do you know those children weren't born on the ship? wouldn't that seem logical?
ReplyNo it wouldn't. Military ships do not encourage their crew to start families while away from port. That would be like one of our aircraft carriers taking families along while patrolling for Somali pirates. But if the pirates could spray you with nono-bots to turn you into a mindless slave.
On the Voyager, yes, because they are 75 years from any friendly planet. On DS9, yes, because it's the equivelent of an embassy in a somewhat friendly country. But the Enterprise (any version) is a military flagship. They might be born aboard the ship, (if the Federation allows personell to serve up until their child is born) but like the article said they should then go back to their parent's planet of origin (since they can) to be looked after by relatives, the same way children of military personell are in our world and not put in danger.
Heck even Janeway was a little worried about the crew having children who might grow up on board Voyager, which makes less sense when you realize the Federation seems to have 'families on board' as a policy.
Not sure if this was mentioned but I thought that Russell's mom wasn't even in the picture. I don't know, I'm confused. Remember the Phyllis scene? Where Carl yells at him, "You call your mother Phyllis?" And Russell said, "Phyllis isn't my mom?" So I always assumed his mom had died and that Phyllis was some social worker and that was the lady at the end. But then again, Phyllis could be the jerk of a step mom who was all like, "Stop calling your father, you annoy him" So, can someone explain this to me? And either way, WHOEVER was suppose to be watching Russell should be locked up or shot or something. XD
ReplyI'm pretty sure Phyllis was the step mother. Either way, his parents and step parents are still horrible.
I thought the "Love You" girl was in the first film?
Reply"What is Leo going to say that doesn't sound like the ravings of a madman?" Oh, I don't know, maybe "She killed herself"?
Reply"Why?"
"I don't know"
"You're lying! I heard you talking to grandpa, saying it was your fault! Why did she kill herself Dad?!!!"
"Why did you run away if she killed herself, daddy?"
"Because f**k you. You are just a piece of my imagination"
"... fighting the mentally insane..."
ReplyWhat other forms of insanity, besides the mental kind, are there? A small point, but I'd like it clarified.
Its a hold over from times when insane did not only mean mental issues.
I know this article is old but the trailer for The Dark Knight Rises has Alfred apologizing for failing in his duty of care to Bruce. seeing as Nolan was a psych teacher before becoming awesome I'm sure the writers realized this and intentionally included this character flaw.
Reply"Nolan was a psych teacher" - Evidence?
He wasn't one, but he probably understands psychology more than the dippy professors I had in college.
I'm sure other people have mentioned this, but in the Sixth Sense, Cole's dad isn't dead. His dad left the family one day randomly, and is currently living with a new girlfriend (the lady who works in a toll booth - remember how Cole and Malcolm had a conversation about her, wondering what she did if she had to pee? [Don't ask why I remember these details]). So yeah, Cole's dad isn't dead, just absent.
Replyif you read Detective comics 27 it is revealed he groomed Bruce to be Batman, but the point is, yes, in fact Alfred should not take care of children, ever... I honestly just wanted to submit a comment on this article
ReplyI'm amazed no-one has mentioned how Bruce himself should never be allowed around children. Lets face it, like an abused child who grows up to be an abuser, Batman grooms children to be as psychologically broken as he is and work out their issues by beating on the criminal element.
"Boldly going where no one has gone before -- meaning places full of unknown beings, diseases and environmental dangers we may not know how to deal with. And we brought our kids along.
Reply Hide All See All 3 RepliesCan you remember any time in history when human beings thought that was ever a good idea?"
Pretty much the entire age of exploration, colonization of the New World, and western expansion of the United States. These are exactly the dangers faced by every family who ever set sail on a ship from Europe to the Americas, or hopped into a covered wagon heading to Texas or the western part of the United States.
Sacajawea? You know, the Indian guide who helped Lewis and Clark on their famous expedition. About fifteen at the time. And pregnant.
Putting children into horrifically dangerous situations not only isn't an unusual act in the history of human exploration, it was fairly commonplace.
Ok,with all of this,except for the fact,that europeans,and their progeny were rather like the "disease bearing,invading aliean life forms,who brought death and destruction to a "New World".Just a matter of "perspective".
Not at all, James.
Yes, but isn't the Federation supposed to be 'more' enlightened than people today, not less? Also the examples you give are of families setting off to start a new life in distant places, where it makes sense to take your children. The Enterprise is the equivelent of a navel flagship which might see combat at any time. True, in the past, there were children aboard such ships, but they were the powder monkeys and no-one could call their parents good (at least by modern standards, which the Federation should exceed).