The 6 Most Pointlessly Elaborate Movie Murder Plots
When you really need something done, the simplest method is almost always the best.
But don't tell that to Hollywood bad guys, who can't seem to kill a single victim without planning out a complex, Rube Goldberg-style sequence that's almost sure to end in failure.
So, we get criminal masterminds using methods like...

Stuntman Mike, from Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez's ambitious bomb Grindhouse, seduces beautiful women who have nothing better to do but hang out in hole-in-the-wall bars in Middle of Nowhere, Texas.

Then he kills them, either by giving them a ride in the front seat of his stunt car (the driver seat is "death proof" but the rest of the car isn't) and crashing it, or just running them off the road.
The Problem:
Every plan results in his own car getting bashed to pieces. That means every time he scores a kill, he has to come back and rebuild the engine, put in a new suspension, get new brakes, shocks, axles, rebuild the transmission and who knows what else. All of this is after he's released from the hospital, of course.

But that doesn't touch on the most obvious problem: his insurance premiums. We don't even think Geico is going to be all that understanding after about the 12th woman turns up dead in one of his "accidents." Prepare for some skeptical looks from the claims guy, Mike.
A Better Way:
He convinces the drunken hotties to give him a lap dance to some R&B tunes, and then shoots them in the face.

If you haven't seen this cult classic, basically it's Saw, except it doesn't involve a saw. It involves a cube.
A group of random people find themselves trapped in a cube-shaped maze, with no memory of how they got there. As the team moves through the cube, they find that some rooms are safe and some are booby trapped.

One room sprays acid on its victims, another one has retractable spikes, another juliennes its victims with cheese wire.
The Problem:
In order to truly understand a murder plot, it's important to understand the motive. And, after watching the entire movie, there doesn't seem to be any. The creation or creator of the Cube is never explained, and neither is the reason for these particular people being trapped there. In other words, the message is that life's a bitch and then you get a face full of acid.

"Is this one of the retarded acid cubes or one of the regular retarded cubes?"
But let's just assume for the sake of argument that the Cube's creator intended to teach people how to work together by putting them in a situation they could only escape from by pooling their resources, skills and knowledge. Wouldn't it be simpler and cheaper to just send them to a team-building weekend in the woods where they could learn the same things by crossing rope ladders and solving toothpick puzzles?

"Let's make this bigger. And with acid."
And if that is indeed the lesson, how are they going to spread their message when they are all dead and the only guy who makes it out alive is the one with autism?
A Better Way:
The Cube's creator points a gun in the face of his victims and tells them to "Cooperate, dammit!" Then he shoots all of them, minus the autistic one, in the face.

The Dirty Harry series officially ran out of steam by the fourth film in the franchise, and then it jumped the shark in a remote control car.
In The Dead Pool, a serial killer is once again stalking the streets of San Francisco, killing people to rig a "dead pool" (a betting pool on what famous person will die next). Dirty Harry Callahan is on the list and the killer decides the best way to off the 60-year-old man is by going after him with an explosive radio controlled car.

Unfortunately, the killer doesn't realize that Dirty Harry's actual car can out run the radio controlled car, so a chase ensues with Dirty Harry's car, the killer's car and the killer's tiny RC car, which he is controlling with perfect ease while driving his own, full-sized vehicle. Think of it as Bullitt if it were written by a small, confused child.
The Problem:
Just think about the amount of time that had to go into making a remote controlled car-bomb, and somehow making that car run fast enough to nearly keep up with a real car. Then at the end of all that effort, you still have a device that can be thwarted by something as simple as a curb or a small dog.

A Better Way:
Show Dirty Harry your ridiculous killer remote control car. While he's distracted by his derisive laughter, shoot him in the face.








cube should be excluded. it wasnt about murder, it was more about survival. i dont think who/whatever designed that thing wanted everyone to die.
Reply Hide All See All 4 RepliesOh really? THEN WHY DID HE MAKE THE ROOMS SHOOT ACID AT PEOPLE?! God that was a fun but stupid movie.
If it was about survival the creator could have filled the cube with feathers, puppies and hot dogs. Instead, it was filled with sharp objects and acid. These are clearly not conducive to survival.
You find out in cube 2 that they are prisoners who choose to go into cube and if they survive they get freedom, course they wake up not knowing they used to be in jail. Yes I ruined cube 2 for you trust me I did you a favor.
Am I the only one that remembers that all of the people there were involved in the creation of the Cube and it was the sadistic way the owners/government/whatever used to test it and get rid of them at the same time?
The only one worth reading was the last one, imo. It made the entire article worth reading however
ReplyRemember the Joker quote: "Do I look like a guy with a plan?"
ReplyHe makes it all up as he goes along. He puts back-ups in place (like the stomach-cell-phone-bomb) but otherwise just goes with the flow.
That's what makes The Joker so dangerous. Not just to Batman, but to just about everyone in the DC Universe. From moment to moment his motives change, and even he doesn't know what he will do next. He doesn't even know his own origin, he recalls three of them and any of them might be true or none of them.
The tarantula isn't poisonous period. It's venomous.
ReplyRight. Plants are poisonous. Animals are venomous.
While it is true that plants are poisonous and MOST animals are venomous, there are still some species (like that one poisonous Dart Frog) that are legitimately poisonous.
How to tell for certain? Poison is either ingested or absorbed through the skin. Venom is injected by stinging, biting, etc.
I like this article, but have to disagree with your assessment of Smoking Aces and The Dark Knight. I'm pretty sure in smoking Aces only one assassin was purposely sent after the guy. I think the others just intervened when they heard how much money they could get. I haven't seen it in a while, so I could be wrong, but my real question of the plot would be if all these hitmen were sent to kill this man and take his heart, shouldn't they be told why the heart is needed. Most of them believe its just a symbol, so they probably wont be too careful in removing the heart so that it can be transplanted into another person. The heart may have a bullet wound, knife stabs (afterall one of the assassins plan was to stab the guy in the chest like he did to Matthew Fox), or may not even put the heart on ice. Only one killer brought the necessary tools to successfully remove a heart, so I think that was the only one hired for the job.
ReplyAs for The Dark Knight, you're absolutely right, if that was all in the plan. But I always got the feeling that most of Joker's actions were just taking advantage of situations. And if they work out one way, then good, and if they don't, he would do something else. I'd like to reiterate that I like this article and I like this writer, but I like dissecting movies more. So I couldn't help but write something.
I think Joker just got the cash from the bank at the start then just went with the flow. He didn't burn all of it, a lot of it was used to buy the buildings and explosives and trucks et al. Then he just bought what he needed and made backup plans.
You implied part way through your first paragraph that you watched Smoking Aces more than once. I hope you realize that all opinions you ever have are made invalid by that admission.
For the Joker part I don't agree at all. Remember, in the movie he says "I just do things..." He has a plan without having a plan, he's like "let's kill Dent" (as he thought he was the real Batman remember?), then Dent survives and Batman is not Dent (what a twist for him). He planned being busted even if Dent's dead... As Dent survided, he had a plan B ("let's wait and see how things goes"), then as Dent survived and Dawes killed, he just used him or fun... That's all! He didn't really plan anything from A to Z...
Reply Hide All See All 3 RepliesHe got himself into jail to get to that dude from hong kong, don't forget that.
Not to mention the fat guy with the cellphone bomb inside him would have taken quite a bit of planning.
The Joker even flat out tells Dent that he wasn't involved in him getting kidnapped.
You're assuming the entire plan is there from the start.
ReplyThe last two points are a fail, good sir. Smokin' Aces was about how everything went to s**t because of an info leak (the gathering was intended in the second part, where they were supposed to kill each other while trying to get the mark). Whereas the Joker is the manifestation of chaos, that does random s**t to random people to see what happens, and then does something with the outcome, having no definite goal on the horizon.
ReplyThematically, the point of Smokin' Aces is that the whole thing turned into a clusterfuck due to a misunderstanding. Lazlo Soot was the only one to get the contract, everyone else just thought it was open contract since one of the mob bosses was planning on double crossing the mafia leader, and put out an open contract.
ReplyThe Joker was, by his own admission, not a fan of "plans" or the kind of people who make them.
ReplyYeah the Joker never likes to plan anything in the movie with the obvious exception of the opening bank job… then three assassinations (granted one fails) or the grenade vest escape plan and jail break. Maybe he was just wingin it with the whole one boat blows up the other but if they don’t that’s ok because I have a spare detonator be who can say what’s going on in that crazy clown mind. So yeah there’s no planning there
Why must everyone get shot in the face? It's so very unoriginal. XD
Reply Hide All See All 4 RepliesShot in the face
Shooting them in the ass is less effective in the long run.
I hear being shot in the torso or limbs is what's hot on the street these days.
They were all out of knees?
The Joker doesn't know how things are going to turn out, and doesn't care. He just does things to see what happens.
Replyand yet he plans multistep long wided plans.
He doesn't plan anything. he just has things to do if something goes a certain way. Most likely he makes it up as he goes along. Sometimes i feel like he has the means to murder everyone and anyone at all times just in case something happens and thats an appropriate thing to do to further the chaos.
Stuntman Mike in "deathproof" was a serial killer. he wasn't a professional killer interseted in efficiency. the ritual aspect of rebuilding a new car and the lead-up to the killing act were a necessary and very important part of the act for him.
ReplyI think that the Joker was actually trying to kill Harvey, and from the point when he gets arrested, he's just really, really good at thinking on his feet.
ReplyI think that's what the joker does the whole time
Anyone else wonder how nobody noticed the Joker's goons rigging an entire hospital to explode? Presumably with bundles of dynamite and barrels of gasoline. Personally, I'd be a little suspicious of clown-masked men doing anything, let alone wrestling large oil drums into strategic positions in the hospital, then hooking up some freakin' TNT. But then, I'm naturally suspicious of clowns in general.
ReplyThe clowns were the good guys in the end.
I would watch a movie where Katie Holmes gets shot in the face. It's a shame she got replaced in The Dark Knight....I would have settled for watching her get blown up, too.
ReplyShoot her over the pie=faced Gyllenhaal??? I'd rather listen to Scientology than be asked to believe in Maggie as a love interest.
ur argument unraveled at the end. i cant hate on #1 and #2. FOR SHAME
ReplyHere's how Joker's plans (sometimes, when he actually MAKES them) work out.
Reply1) Joker has a rough idea of what he wants.
2) Joker constructs a bunch of steps to get what he wants.
3) Halfway through the list, he forgets his original intent, and just wings it from there.
This is the man who at one point in a fight with either Batman or Superman, rejected a gun, a knife, and a hand grenade in favor of a trout.
This is the man who himself ADMITS that he can't accurately remember his past, but as a meta-joke to the authors rewriting his backstory whenever they want to sell more comics says that "If I have to have a past, I prefer it be multiple choice!"
This is a man who at one point thought he had accidentally killed Batman, and panicked. Then, when informed Batman was just unconscious, went to shoot Batman in the face.
Joker is the absolute MASTER of improvisation. He makes s**t up as he goes, but he's brilliant enough that it LOOKS like it was a cunning plan all along.
...and I think Joker may have written this article to f**k with us.
it would make sense....after all he does say he not a schemer.
exactly! that two-face was created out of joker's diabolical plot was just one acceptable outcome of his horrible plan. it's not so much that everything he wanted to have happen happened exactly that way, so much as he created a giant web of chaos and would have found himself pleased at any outcome that foiled batman in the slightest.
i mean, for all we know, there was a possibility in joker's mind that dent would have died and rachel would have become the disfigured villainess. *shrug*
I'm sure a billion people have said the exact same thing already, but I just rewatched the movie and I can't help myself -
ReplyDoes the joker really look like a guy with a plan?
I got the impreasion he was just making it up as he went along.
No, he actually subcontracts several different evil organizations to create his evil plans. And when it's time to choose which one to use, he holds...*snap*...TRYOUTS.
Make it fast.
Apparently this article was written by the ever pragmatic HK-47
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