Was 9/11 an Inside Job?

2. The 9/11 Conspiracy guys are retarded.

Just as it's wrong to find complicated conspiracy where simple incompetence will explain everything, it's also wrong to presume evil motives where simple mental retardation may be the explanation.

Loose Change didn't invent the 9/11 conspiracy. The conspiracy theories started loooong before 9/11, because there is a core group of people out there who quite simply believe every conspiracy theory ever suspected, ever, by anybody.

For instance, the Loose Change guys actually guest hosted a talk radio show recently. When a caller suggested that we should be more worried about the government controlling the weather, the guys agreed that of course the government has weather control machines but this 9/11 thing is also important. Hey, why not.

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Now, fans of this site know, I don't be trustin' me no government. I've put in time at various intelligence agencies and at one major government contractor (Kellogg, Brown & Root). I've worked for these people and let me tell you, the government is a mess. And elected officials, don't get me started on those people. They'll do anything it takes to get votes.

But here's the thing. The 9/11 "Truth" guys, the Loose Changers and all the many websites, they don't just think government is corrupt. They think everybody, and I mean everybody, is either evil on a demonic scale, or a mindless sheep.

For instance, how much money would it take to get you to kill 3,000 random, innocent Americans? Or, say you stumbled upon somebody else's plan to kill 3,000 innocent Americans. How much would it take to get you to stay silent afterward?

A hundred dollars? Two hundred? Two hundred fifty?

Well if the conspiracy guys are right, there are people reading this right now who took that deal. No kidding.

Here's why. The entire 9/11 "Truth" movement rests on the idea that the World Trade Center towers were rigged with explosives, a "Controlled Demolition" like you see with old buildings. That's the whole thing. They say the buildings couldn't have come down otherwise.

Forget the fact that no experts on the subject agree with them. That's not the point right now. We're just trying to get inside these guys' heads.

Now, maybe you could keep the plan itself a secret. A few dozen murderous black ops guys, demolitions experts with a grudge against the USA, maybe they've been brainwashed. Who knows. Maybe it could be done. People point out that the Manhattan Project to build the atomic bomb was kept a secret, so why not this?

But the cover-up. Holy shit, guys. Covering this thing up after the fact would be like trying to keep the atomic bomb a secret after Hiroshima. Just wait 'till you hear this.

First, picture the demolitions teams wiring up the World Trade Center towers with explosives prior to the attack. Obviously you couldn't do it during business hours, since it'd be kind of hard to explain to the 100,000 people who worked at or visited the WTC towers on any given day why you had a huge chunk of wall torn out and were wiring up a bomb on the steel beams there.

World Trade Center observation deck. Notice: people are there.
I mean, keep in mind, I don't know how big of a job that would be (no one has ever demolished a building that size before) but a building just half the size of one WTC tower took 4,000 separate charges to bring down. Four thousand.

That job took seven months of prep work... and they had the run of an abandoned building, without having to hide their work from 100,000 people every day. Our demolition crew, on the other hand, can work only at night and has to spend the last bit of every shift carefully repairing the wall and hiding any evidence of charges or detonators as not to be discovered during the day.

Huge teams of demolitions experts, who had no problem wiring a building full of innocent New Yorkers to explode, hired in secret, worked every night for what had to be a year (and that's only if they had a big enough crew) placing maybe 10,000 separate charges in each tower and another few thousand in WTC 7 (the smaller WTC tower that also collapsed, later in the day on 9/11).

And nobody notices.

That's right. That's the theory they're putting out there. 100,000 DVD's they've sold with this.

Truckloads of bombs, dozens of mysterious workers, going in and out of the building, night after night. Security at the building doesn't catch them, Port Authority Police don't catch them, random eyewitnesses who stumble across the operation and call the cops don't catch them, maintenance workers who stumble across wet paint and repaired walls and bits of strange wire don't catch them, security cameras don't catch them.

The bomb-sniffing dogs who were brought in from time to time (remember, these buildings were bombed by terrorists in 1993) who are trained to find even one bomb, fail to notice the 10,000 bombs lining their building.

If you're saying that nothing could possibly be more retarded than that, you're wrong.

No, they're just getting started. It's at this stage of the hypothetical plot when the 9/11 conspiracy guys say the real cover-up began. This is when all of the many, many people who could have blown the lid off the whole thing chose to stay silent because they were paid off by the government.

That includes hundreds of private researchers and government employees who prepared gigantic reports about the collapse of the towers from the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA).

Also, officials in the New York City Fire Department.

All were written fat checks, say the conspiracy guys, to cover up the murder of 3,000 New Yorkers. Keep in mind, some of them were New Yorkers themselves - all of the FDNY guys were - and some of them had friends who died in the towers. The theory even says it was the commander of the FDNY itself who detonated one of the buildings, and therefore he was in on the decision to kill 343 of his own firefighters and 60 police officers.

For money. If that were you... how big would that check have to be? These are people he saw every day, worked with every day. He went to weddings, birthday parties, to baseball games with these guys. In the mind of the 9/11 conspiracy, he'd kill them all for a big enough pile of cash.

Would you?

There's more. We have hundreds, if not thousands, of reporters and writers who researched the collapse, including the nine reporters and dozens of experts for the huge Popular Mechanics article on the subject.

They were paid off, too. And paid enough to walk away from the story of a lifetime, a chance to blow the lid off the conspiracy. Paid enough to refuse a sure Pulitzer and a lifetime of fame and riches as one of history's greatest heroes. And paid in such a way that no other reporters would notice and get jealous or ask questions. These people do tend to be the curious type, you know.

We're getting a nice sized payroll here. Now let's add in the hundreds of people from a dozen different agencies and police departments who claim to have helped clean up flight 93 wreckage, including 300 volunteers. The conspiracy guys say there was no plane, therefore they were paid to lie, along with all of the witnesses in Pennsylvania who claim to have seen the plane go down.

But wait, there's more. Because there are hundreds of thousands of civil engineers and structural engineers in the world (people who are experts in what makes buildings fall down) and lots of demolitions experts. Approximately zero of them say the 9/11 attacks looked like bombed buildings. All of them either say outright that the demolition theory is asinine, or are silent in the face of what the Loose Changers say is video proof of mass murder so obvious even an uneducated jackass off the street can spot it.

The conspiracy guys' explanation?

You guessed it. They were paid to stay silent. Hey, why not? Probably half a million people there, but, you know. Since we've got the checkbook out anyway...

Also, think of all of the friends and family of these paid conspirators, who suddenly see all this mysterious wealth...

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...Wouldn't some rumors get started?

You've got some hypothetical professor who was about to write a paper proving the towers were demolished, suddenly coming into Powerball-sized wealth and abandoning the paper at the same time... his wife never let it slip? His kids didn't object? All his jealous colleagues who noticed the sudden new cars and new home and elaborate vacations, nobody asked questions? Nobody made an anonymous call to the IRS, just out of spite? All the bank employees who noticed thousands of mysterious deposits, all of which have to be reported to the IRS, that didn't leave a trail?

I mean, we're up to a sizeable portion of the US population here. Odds are you've passed some of these people on the street.

Today.

And keep in mind, this can't be chump change. Even in a world where every structural engineering desk jockey is okay with mass murder, they're still not going to risk jail and career ruin and walk away from a huge book deal for ten grand. Oh, no, it's got to be millions, per person, just to make it worth it. Even a dedicated conspirator would need to know he or she was set for life.

Let's say they wrote 500,000 checks (hell, you've got more than 120,000 people in the American Society of Civil Engineers alone, and they'd be the first ones to speak out). Say the average payout was ten million (barely enough to live rich the rest of your life, but let's just say). So that's 500,000 times ten million which is...

...Five TRILLION dollars.

That's about half of the value of all goods and services produced in the United States last year. Therefore the 9/11 conspiracy was, in terms of payroll, the single largest employer in the history of the world.

The board of directors of the 9/11 conspiracy
gather to await instructions (artists' rendering)
And here's the kicker...

100% of the people who were offered the deal, took it.

After all, we don't have a single person who has come running into the offices of the New York Times, waving a check and saying, "look! Here's a check for ten million smackers that the government gave me to be silent about 9/11! Can you believe these assholes? Now give me my book deal!"

Not one. Even with the lure of fame and fortune and a chance to go down in history as The Guy Who Saved American Democracy, even with the crushing guilt of seeing thousands of bodies hauled out of the rubble, even seeing the horrors of a nation turned inside out by war and paranoia that was completely manufactured as a gruesome hoax, some of these people having their own friends and families and colleagues die in the attacks, not one turned down the money... or took the money and came forward anyway.

And that, is the conspiracy mindset.

It's not a belief in corrupt leaders. Hell, we all believe in corrupt leaders. It's a belief in a corrupt everybody. It's driving around in a world where every single person you see out of your windshield is utterly bloodthirsty and amoral, all except for you and a few, brave friends. What could make you feel more important than that?

You can see the attraction right away. Most people, to feel special, have to actually do something special. But why not do what these guys do, and just make the rest of the world out to be wretched? Hell, once we've painted everyone else as mindless or murderous, all we have to do to feel superior to them is roll out of bed.

Remember what I said earlier about Dylan Avery and how it was probably just a desire for fame that drove him to do all this? Look at the parallel here. At the heart of all this is that basic human need to feel special somehow, twisted in the most warped and corrosive way imaginable.

In conclusion, the 9/11 Conspiracy Guys aren't evil and they aren't liars. They're merely filling a basic human need, using their imaginations and paranoia to elevate themselves to a level the real world will never elevate them to. Also, they're retarded.

The Verdict:
Liars? Retarded? They're probably both right. Just as the crooked televangelist steals from old widows who themselves have an honest faith in God, Dylan Avery and the Loose Change guys have made a nice name for themselves (and a nice profit) from a large group of true believers who have always lived at the fringes of society. These are the type who think the moon landing was a hoax, that Area 51 houses alien spacecraft.

And then you have the rank and file, the kids who watched the video and just plain didn't know any better because they didn't follow it up with any reading. They're not reading this, for instance.

No, they saw Loose Change and went charging into their favorite forum or chat room, screaming, "WATCH THIS BITCHWHORES LOOSE CHANGE IS GONNA CHANGE YOUR WORLD." By the time people started posting info that debunked it, it was kind of hard for them to back down without looking like an asshole. So, they stand by it.

So even if you strapped them down and forced them to read this, they'd just pick out one detail that they thought would give them reason to discredit the whole thing and dismiss it from their minds.

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After all, nobody likes feeling like an asshole. But if we keep getting the real information out there, with time, the conspiracy silliness will fade away.

I have faith in humanity.

-by David Wong

If you have watched Loose Change you should immediately watch the rebuttal video that goes pretty much sentence-by-sentence. If you'd like to read more about the 9/11 conspiracy movement, there's lots more at Debunking911.com and Screw Loose Change, whose research I stole for this article.

Another must-see is the Penn & Teller's Bullshit clip on the subject.

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Mightyqueen801

"u people need to get a life you are hurting the families with your lies just because you can't handle what really happen and need to stop this or i can start my on protest that sounds like this ALL 911 conspiracies can go to hell!!!!"

Thank you. One thing you all should know is that these people gather on the anniversary and actually accuse the families of the dead of being part of the coverup. I have witnessed this with my own eyes.

Posted on 11/3/2008 8:50:15 AM

The trouble with the "ae911" site is that none of the members are actually any of the real engineers who worked on the site cleanup and the investigation afterward for NIST. Yes, I realize that in order for the "truther" stories to be true, THOSE engineers had to have been government shills, part of the conspiracy, ya know. Trouble is, they aren't. Many of them knew the WTC buildings' construction and operations, a few were IN it and almost lost their own lives on September 11, and one of them lost about half his people. Notice how the Loose Change people never give the names of these engineers? Maybe because they could be sued for slander? Also likely they've never bothered to even find out who they are. Here are some tips: While the site was not open to EVERYONE, of course, neither was the site cordoned off and controlled by the FBI or CIA or . The people who worked on the site were profoundly affected by what they saw there, and none of them saw evidence of explosives.

Posted on 11/3/2008 8:48:02 AM

Mike_D

The best site for 9/11 info is the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. Since its run by people with real credentials and experience with construction/demolition of high rise buildings.

http://www.ae911truth.org/

There's a lot of info and videos. The best being the lecture and the interview videos.

Posted on 10/14/2008 3:38:36 AM

Seeking

Rather than address the assertions you make in your piece, which even I will admit display a clarity that is often absent from most reviews of the 9/11 Truth Movement, I will instead point out the following:

Regardless of your beliefs on who carried out 9/11, it is INDISPUTABLE that the 9/11 Commission did a half-ass job in carrying out its mission. The Commission omitted testimony, ignored key issues related to the events and further disrespected the memory of 9/11 victims by force-feeding the public a half-baked explanation of things.

My point is, a truly comprehensive and independent investigation devoid of any political ties or biases would likely go a long way to answering the questions that lead many to the 9/11 Truth Movement in the first place. The surest way to quell the expansion of false 9/11 theories, if that's indeed what they are, is to adequately investigate the day full in the first place.

The Commission failed to do so. That itself may be the biggest outrage of Sept. 11th.

Posted on 10/8/2008 2:35:22 PM

bobboringbaker

i think this is the greatest thing ever written on cracked, hands down. i am so sick of all my friends watching Loose Change and just blindly following it. I've linked so many people to this article. keep up the good work

Posted on 10/1/2008 9:43:06 AM

oreolvrs

watc terrorstrom on youtube

Posted on 9/26/2008 2:20:33 PM

busta57

None of this article mentions the reason WHY it would be an inside job. The technical aspects of what happened are irrelevent. Do your own research and all roads lead to money. The owners of the greatest scam ever called the Federal Reserve reap massive profits during war as governments are forced to borrow from them AT INTEREST. The 9-11 attacks give the gov't and the citizens justification for invasion. The war ensues, and the massive borrowing from the FED begins. Other private companies reap massive profits via no bid contracts ie. Blackwater. Just like this very article says, DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH and you will eventually find the path that leads to the quest for more money and more power.

Posted on 9/26/2008 1:44:54 PM

ardmore

Man, that Soprano guy is smart. And almost improbably eloquent, too, underneath his goombah profanities. Obviously he learned a great deal from walking sideways off cliffs in between having Mario and Luigi jump on his head.

Posted on 9/14/2008 10:34:55 PM

jtdotson

u people need to get a life you are hurting the families with your lies just because you can't handle what really happen and need to stop this or i can start my on protest that sounds like this ALL 911 conspiracies can go to hell!!!!

Posted on 9/9/2008 10:33:41 AM

FrederSonOfJoh

I believe in the 9/11 and NWO conspiracy theories but never watched Loose Change as I've heard its completely retarded. Three good movies on the subject are Zeitgeist, America: Freedom To Fascism and September Clues, all of which can be found on youtube

Posted on 8/30/2008 11:48:57 AM

claudypurch

I totally agree that the U.S had nothing to do with the September 11th attacks, you're telling me about 500,000 people do not have morals and a heart and they'd let thousands of innocent and valued people die so they could have $10,000,000? Surely 1 or 2 people out or the 500,000 people would not stand for that, surely one of them would have screwed the money and done the decent thing.

Posted on 8/23/2008 2:16:54 PM

kevbo

I'm on the side that this was a government conspiracy for many of the reasons already noted. I'll just add this article from Elevator World (a trade magazine) dated posted Feb 20, 2001, for the March issue that showcases how "ACE Elevator undertook what was perhaps, one of the largest, most sophisticated elevator modernization programs in the industry's history. This "towering" achievement took place at New York City's prestigious World Trade Center (WTC)..."

Interestingly, you can't get to the article by navigating on their Web site.

http://www.elevator-world.com/magazine/archive01/0103-002.html-ssi

Huh.

Posted on 8/20/2008 11:22:08 PM

robc08

listen pepps, i have just read every comment that is on this site. the only thing that i can say is if people like loose change and others alike think that all of this is an inside job, a conspiracy theory or what ever you want to call it, then please show some real evidence and do something about it. ive seen the conspiracy files about this and i can understand why people will think that the WTC was part of a planned demolition and i have to agree in the back of my mind it seems real, but to say things like this and to have no action on the matter doesnt seem right. dont say things that cannot be backed up and revealed. as for people who think all of this is a load of crap i can totally agree with what your saying but the fact of the matter is, people like loose change believe something is wrong and who is to stop them from trying to find the truth even if it isnt correct, let them try to prove it, if they can then they will if they cant then they cant. my opinion on this matter is that certain things when you watch them do seem strange and do make you believe the government have done something wether that is true or not i dont know but i like others would like answers. the reason being is that soldiers have gone to war and if it is a conspiracy then the covernment have alot to answer for

Posted on 8/11/2008 12:19:45 PM

RolandofGilead

You know what really sucks? The sheer callousness of both sides. People like Lyle think it was terrorists, people like sirgiyian think it was the U.S., and then people like thisisgay think that both sides are idiots. And you've all lost sight of your humanity. Screaming at each other at the top of your virtual lungs trying to distract one another. Guess what? If you think its a conspiracy wheres the action? Run, hide, scream, whatever. Your reaction is not consistent with your supposed mindset. If you think that the government would kill thousands at the drop of a hat for profits, why aren't you active? Your sitting on a network that is publically and privatly scanned by the government that you accuse of murder. Following your Orwellian logic you should be detained, reeducated, and placed on probation for the first dissenting post.

As for those who trust our government, why do you care what these people think? If you beleive yourself to be smarter than them, why not just allow them to continue their rants? "I don't agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." Just let it go and move on.

You've both forgotten the victims of this crime, no matter who the perpetrator was. I weep openly whenever I see footage of the towers falling. Does it matter why they fell? Not to me. Follow your own trail, gather your own evidence, and be content with your knowledge. If you can honestly prove it to be a fake, fine. Show it. But be prepared to be scrutinized. And understand that not everyone is going to agree with you. There are people who still don't beleive the Holocost happened. There are people who believe that the moon landed was filmed in Australia. There are people who beleive in intellegent design, and those who believe in Evolution, and those who believe we're a giant alien petri dish. Your never going to get every one on your side.

It will not happen.

Posted on 8/2/2008 1:28:57 AM

sirgiyan

In fact my point is purely math+logic and has nothing to do with politics. I do not play these games.
If a simple statement that 2+2=4 drives you so crazy... I feel so sorry for you both :)

Posted on 7/20/2008 12:22:13 AM

Dear THISISGAY and LYLE990.
There is one thing I need from you both. You show me a quote from my post proving that I suggested US government was involved in 9/11 or APOLOGIZE NOW!!!

Posted on 7/20/2008 12:19:07 AM

thisisgay

so i read both sides and then i read the comments and some people are extremely arrogant and stupid. I almost could believe what dano12345 wrote, I mean i hate our government and I think all of what we've done since 2000 is very fucked up, but i can't believe you guys are trying to defend yourselves in saying that 9/11 was an inside job. You guys are retarded, there is no absolutely positive evidence that proves it was an inside job, you guys are just looking extremely retarded. Please wake up people, alot of people died and what do you do, you don't feel bad for their famileys, you don't feel bad for what happened instead you go around trying to blame something else, becuase it's super 'awesome'. If you guys would stop carring so much about government conspiricys maybe the world would be a better place. And sirgiyan there is no possible way that YOU could be an architect, you are way to f*****g stupid to do so, please provide a reliable portfolio of ever structure you've ever designed.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE TRUTH THEN DON'T BOTHER SAYING OTHERWISE, YOU'LL LOOK STUPID.

Posted on 7/19/2008 3:12:18 PM

Lyle990

Sirgiyan, there is no way someone as clueless as you could be an architect. But if you are, please post a list of every structure you have ever designed so I can be sure not to ever enter them.

The US government had nothing to do with the perpetration of the 9/11 attacks. The WTC towers were destroyed by the impact of two fueled jetliners and the resulting conflagrations. The Pentagon was damaged by a jet airplane on 9/11, and another plane crashed in a field in Pennsylvania. All 4 of these planes were under the control of Al-Queda hijackers. Period. Anyone who believes otherwise is a moron.

Posted on 7/10/2008 1:37:47 PM

dano12345

very well put sirgiyan

Posted on 6/22/2008 1:39:26 AM

And besides, even if you distribute jet-fuel, furniture and everything that burns evenly throughout the floor the structure collapse will NEVER be that symmetrical as it was. One side would collapse first and that would cause building to bend as opposed to go down vertically

Posted on 6/21/2008 9:26:29 PM

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