The 4 Most Important Things to Know as a Gamer Parent
The exact moment I knew I was a gamer parent -- that is, a gamer who happens to have kids, and not just the parent of kids who play games -- was when I heard my nine year-old son Drew proclaim, "They won't let you kill kids in this game? That's a bunch of bullcrap," and immediately realized I was going to have to have a conversation with him about it.
He was playing Fable II. One of my games.

"Father, let us murder virtual children... together."
Knowing what to do in these situations is harder than it sounds. On one hand, I know there are millions of parents like me now. On the other, it's kind of uncharted territory. In some ways the world still thinks of gaming as a newfangled gadget for the kids (so there is all sorts of advice out there for parents about how to find out if the game your teenager bought merely lets him kill hookers or actually dismember them completely). But it's a different deal for parents whose own primary form of entertainment is gaming -- Moms who raid with their kids in World of Warcraft, dads who consistently teabag their own children in the Halo games.
I'm one of those. I'm more of a gamer than any of my kids, in fact. As far as they know, this is what grownups do. And a lot of the games I play are in no way appropriate for them. But here's the thing...

Let's look at my experience with Fable II. It's a game for adults and like I said it was in fact my game, not my son's. But I also knew nothing about it; I got it as a Christmas gift last year and hadn't spent much time on it because... well, World of Warcraft still exists, and I am a weak man who is afraid of change. A friend found it for $12 in a bargain bin and he assumes I will like any random thing that has a cartoonish guy with a sword and D&D garb on the cover.
I left it laying out in a household with three children because, well, it was a pink game with the word "Fable" on the cover and a guy dressed like Link. It didn't seem like a game that would contain a lot of murder and bonin'.


I didn't, and one of my sons found it and soon was asking me about how he could murder children, because it apparently seemed like that kind of game. I calmly explained to him that Hollywood and games, as a general rule of thumb, don't really show violence towards kids and he would have to be satisfied with mass-murdering all of the adults in the game world instead.
There was no cause for alarm at this point, all I knew was that this was one of the 95% of video games that involve murder -- even Mario kills dudes. We crossed that line a long time ago.
Then, an hour later: "Dad? What's a 'used condom'?"

My mind went frantic, and it took every ounce of willpower to not answer, "a tragedy averted." Instead, I waited five seconds and said, "...what?"
"A used condom. I just dug one up in the game. What is it?"
I won't document the talk we had because we didn't have one. Instead, I had him turn off the Xbox and take a shower to wash away the stink of his sin.
But I knew it wasn't going to be that easy. It'd be naive to assume that this would be the last time this situation would come up. Partly because...

Some of you have already skipped down to the comments to point out what a terrible father I am for ignoring the rating on the game. That's what they're there for, after all.

I make no excuses. In a perfect world, I'd have all of my games neatly categorized by ESRB rating and would watch like a hawk every second to make sure that each game was only being played by a child who was age appropriate, and that neither of their younger siblings were watching them play on our household's one television. And I do take steps -- I know to keep GTA IV and Dildo Samurai locked away in a drawer.

I think that's what it's called
But let me ask you: how old were you when you saw your first R-rated movie? I bet most of you weren't out of elementary school. Some of you saw porn before you read your first novel. Others of you may have had parents who let you see graphic violence when you were nine, but freaked out when they found you with porn at 15.
In the real world, there is no perfect, black and white rule on when a human brain is ready to see a beheading, or a pair of boobs, or a man's balls, or a man's balls painted to look like a pair of boobs. And it wouldn't matter if there was, because you still saw that stuff whether your parents allowed you or not. It was all around you. The bigger issue was whether they were there to talk to you about it.
Likewise, I'm a gamer and I live in a gamer's house -- one with three children from ages five to eleven. Games wind up all over, I have game boxes on my desk, in my TV cabinet, on my dresser, laying on the floor. Hell, even if I take the XBox away from them and restrict them to fun flash-based browser games, I can turn my back for 30 seconds and they can wind up playing this:
My eleven year-old has a World of Warcraft account. Even if I've decided the game content is appropriate for his maturity level, what's to stop some anonymous forty year old from calling him an incompetent cockhole when he screws up?
Nothing. That's why I, as a Gamer Parent, have some work to do.
Especially since ...









Brilliant article. If only all parents were as intelligent about gaming as you are.
ReplyThe part about "rolls a tank" I totally get. That's what happens when you try to drive your tank down a steep embankment at an angle - you risk rolling it. Everyone knows that when you drive your tank up or down a steep bank, you go straight up or down, or you risk rolling it. It's like in the tank section of that booklet the DMV gives you to study for your tank driving test.
ReplyWhich, by the way, totally unrealistic. They don't have people shooting at your or anything, just maneuvering the tank without crushing regular cars along the way, and if you aren't crushing cars while driving your tank in downtown traffic, what's the point of driving it in the first place?
The "holding aggro" part is what puzzles me. I assume it refers to agriculture in some manner, perhaps picking your crops at the right time before they spoil in a farming sim? But why would you do that with a tank? Is there a game out there where you can plow a field by pulling that . . . whatever that thing tractors pull to plow a field . . . with a tank instead of a tractor? And can you shoot at other farmers out plowing their fields with tanks to disrupt their economy (I'm assuming this is a real-time-strategy-tank-farming game, or an RTSTF), create a scarcity in the commodities market (I'm also assuming this is a game that involves trading commodities) so as to increase the price of your own pears? Or soybeans, or whatever you plow a field with, the point being that plowing a field with a tank while shooting at other farmers using tanks (because screw those guys) would be a pretty cool thing to do in a game.
My point being, why don't I have this game? Where is my farming with a tank while killing other farmers with tanks game (you don't kill the one's using tractors because that would be tacky)?
Wait, is this in Fable II? Because I've had that for about a year and haven't gotten around to playing it because I'm roughly a thousand hours into Kingdoms of Amalur and just recently left the starting village.
Spent a half hour on that torture 2 game. Thanks Cheese good stuff!
ReplyThis was great. I am glad to see an intelligent article about this big "issue". My son is three and he has been playing games with my boyfriend and I since he could hold his own controller. He used to get pissed because we would give him a controller that didn't work! lol Kids are not stupid, they know when the light doesn't come on on the "X" in the center of the 360 controller, it doesn't work. And when there's only one character on the screen, he's not playing lol
ReplyAnyway, this seems to be a big issue for some people, but I don't see why.My three year old watches my boyfriend play Battlefeild 3, Modern Warfare 3, Diablo 2, etc, etc. all the time. Hell, he's even played Call of Duty himself! We saved his first double kill like he had just graduated college. Saved the video clip and showed all our friends. He shot two people in the face with a shotgun......*tear....we were so proud. I still wonder how those guys would react if they foudn out they were killed by a three year old....
And Gears of War 2 and 3. He's played both of those. Does he run around trying to kill all of his tiny friends? No. He is THREE and he knows that the video game is not reality. He is one of the sweetest, best behaved children I know. He says "please" and "thank you", goes to bed when asked, and puts on the puppy dog face for candy. He is still a child.
So, thank you, John Cheese, for writing this amazing article, because sometimes it is hard being a gaming parent. You don't honestly know what to tell your kids sometimes and you often wonder what society will think of you for letting yoru young ones play violent games, but I decided a long time ago that my son is not going to be raised by society and their standards, but by ME and my standards. And, needless to say, my standards say he can do this shit. He can stay up until 12 until he starts school, he can have pizza for breakfast, he watch scarey movies (and when I say scarey, I don't mean The Nightmare Before Christmas, I mean Silent Hill, Devil, etc, etc...), and he can f*****g play video games.
It's not my position to give parenting advice, but...wow. Just, wow.
Yeahhhhhhh....not sure if you really 'got' this article...just sayin'
Incompetent cockhole got me.
ReplyGreat, you made me Google "dildo ninja" to see if that was a real thing. So now I have that in my history. Wonderful.
ReplyI've never played a game or even heard of popular/legal/mass-produced games with such perverse actions in them. That's too much sex and I'm warning you it's bad for kids. But my question is,"who finds these games fun?". And besides that so fun that they'll buy it? Oh and I'm in my early twenties and glad I never knew. I can't believe people find them fun.Yuck.
ReplyWhat data shows that it's bad for kids? Because my neighbor had so much non-age-appropriate crap in his room, it was piled up to the same level as his bed. I played GTA for the first time when I was about 7 (and spent the entire time hitting hookers with a baseball bat) and my cousin and I had been watching Family Guy and Futurama long before that. Also, the internet exists. And all of us turned out just fine.
Unless of course you just didn't realize that that isn't the actual cover from Fable II, in which case you just don't understand what Photoshop is. Dildo Samuri is also not a real thing.
Troll harder. Please do.
Yeah, I agree with Digit, We kids find it obvious that It's fake, and therefor we can handle it. While there are occasional psychopaths that don't understand, you really won't be finding me, my friends, or really anyone killing each other because we loved it when the Lone wanderer beheaded Angela Staley for the fun of it.
ReplyAlso I would like to point out that I'm 14. When I was 7 I had not only played "violent" (they where mainly things like street fighter) but I had infact MADE violent video games. All my friends thought it was amazing, even though it made Pac-Man look loke Battlefield 3. >=/\P
I'm 26, female, run a video game store with my dad (who owns it and is 46) and the only arguments that my boyfriend and I ever get into is about who's turn it is to game. Just some background.
ReplyMy dad and I watch R rated movies when I was in elementary school but funny enough...any of the violence was fine but as soon as a sex scene came on it was "turn your head" and he'd fast forward. I always thought this was funny lol
I was never told I couldn't play a game. My first real gaming was on the PS1 and all the lovely blood and gore that came with games like Resident Evil, Dino Crisis, Parasite Eve, and then games like Final Fantasy 7 (swear words, scenes involving the characters threatening another characters balls etc...) I was maybe 10 and 11 when those all came out. Then the glorious PS2 years with GTA games while I was in middle school and high school. Yes, as a girl, I had sex with hookers and then ran them over to get my money back.
We never even really talking about it like "Do you understand what is going on in this scene?" It was more of "Yeah people who take video games so seriously already have problems, it's a stupid game!"
My point being, people think kids are stupid but because they've grown up with video games and graphic movies, if anything they're desensitized to FAKE violence. Kids pretty much get that it's fake and can handle it. And if they can't then they've probably got some problems already :/
"..because they've grown up with video games and graphic movies, if anything they're desensitized to FAKE violence. Kids pretty much get that it's fake and can handle it. And if they can't then they've probably got some problems already."
Thank you. I wish more major media outlets understood this. Though what's on the news any given day is just as bad, and people rarely censor that around their kids...
I think video games should just be held in the same categories as TV and movies about content. If you can't distinguish fiction from what is socially acceptable, you should not be unsupervised in public anyway.
I meant to add that video games are a choice of entertainment just the same as movies, or tv, and so should get only the same reactions from parents or the media. It isn't letting me edit.
I remember being about 9 or 10 and playing doom all day long, and thinking what was the best way to shoot monsters so they would explode instead of just dropping dead. I have now a 4 year old boy who today asked me when could we go again to my friend's house to play MK9 on the xbox. He's not violent, he's as sweet and innocent as any 4 year old would be, he knows the difference between a game and real things... kids aren't stupid, I even think they're usually way more intelligent than grown ups, but I agree good communication is the key to achieve this. Loved the article :)
ReplyI agree! :D
Okay for all of the gamers that are out there that don't have kids, you would not understand anything in this blog. Sorry but you won't and even your dumb ass comments about 'morals and don't blame the game" I am a game and have been since I was 5 and my husband and kids are gamers but I will not let my kids play or even see games that are not good for them. I mean really I am not a bad mom at all but I won't let my son treat a woman on a game like s**t because he can. I have my kids playing the best game ever and it is one that I loved dearly and it's Legend of Zelda. I feel that for them right now it's a great game for them and I hunt for the kid friendly games for them, because the world we live in is already fucked up. And you can get your kids ready for the real world but do it correctly. I won't keep them under lock and key with games or life but they need to know that it is a game is well a game and that real life is not like your game.
Reply Hide All See All 3 Repliesmaybe i dont have kids no, but i have a cousin thats 10 years youngher than me and im 18...
he has a brother thats 10 years youngher than my sister whos 14 now...
thats 4,8,14,18.
i wouldnt feel any guilt playing gta iv in front of both of them... hell even letting them try...
and i doubt my uncle would get mad at it... he has plaed, and i has to, gta sa with the older of those 2 for a couple of years.. its not violence thats the problem... thats just fun stuff...
were it becomes a good idea to go down low is with sexual themes... so no i wont play saints row 3 in front of them... well or maybe i will but not with streaking even though its fun as hell...
again violence isnt a problem... sex is... for the youngher ones i mean, therefore yeah the condom one is a good example, and i wouldnt recommend dildo ninja either
hell im not even sure if fallout 3/NV is beyond..., nor do i think me3s headshots (the heads go off, disappear) would be a problem.
In my entire life of when ive played games theres only 2 that scared me enoguh to not play them... both ps1, one of them was a silent hill game (something about a zombie, and considering how that series feel i think its that one)
ad the other was abes odyssee, too hard and getting shot creeped me out... maybe i will see if i can find the former game again adn face my fear...
hmm thanks for letting me write this.
i play gta 4, resident evil, AND mortal kombat in front of my brothers faces ( who are now 14 and 12) and they dont give a f**k even when they were younger ( 5 to 7) i still did all that...and they enjoyed playing and watching...cuz they know the difference between real life...and the virtual world...prick
Apparently having younger siblings makes Vegito and Tacoim more qualitied to speak on raising children than an actual parent...
I gave my niece "The Sims" when she was eight, because I played it, and knew it was perfectly safe for a kid her age. Within two days, she learned to dump unwanted Sims into the pool and remove the ladder...and she DID NOT HAVE THE INTERNET TO TELL HER TO DO THAT.
ReplyShe's 20 now, in college, and not a felon.
Ha, I love the first picture in the article. As if Nintendo would release anything with that much blood. Either that, or that kid is some sort of real life Jimmy Neutron, and he made a way to plug controllers into other consoles. In that case, he's really smart, since Gamecube controllers are cheap nowadays. Way to stick it to the man and keep that extra $50, kid!
ReplyPeople always seem to overlook Eternal Darkness.
Kids.
Wait until you get Fable III...
ReplyWow. Parent "gamers" are way to sensitive about games and things like that. I was introduced to gaming when I was 5. To WWE games. If parents baby up their children this much, they won't be ready for the adult world, and what their classmates are saying at school. Fable 2 is my favorite game , so I actually know better. You can choose to feed the prisoner, and if your child doesn't choose to, it's not the games fault, it's yours for not teaching them better morals. That erm... reproduction you were talking about is optional, and your child shouldn't be choosing to do that either way. Also, if your to prove your point about the games innappropriatness, at least be truthful. I know I'm taking this way too seriously, but the author seems to be too..
ReplyOr you can stab the criminal in the throat and take what you want by force, like in Dragon Age. And how does it fall on you for not "teaching them better morals" when there are games that reward you for being evil? I guess Infamous isn't in your kid's collection, huh? Just The Smurfs and Nintendogs, right? Oh but wait, you can choose not to bathe your dogs in Nintendogs, so clearly you'd be a terrible person for buying that.
Suddenly I remember that the first game I knew was MK2 and that by age 5 I used to sit by my dad in front of the PC and make him play so I could see the Fatalities... and that I named my fem. dog Mileena because of the female characters hers was the one I liked the most... Kind of creepy in retrospect. But it's true that good communication is the most important part in the dynamic. And marking a clear line between game and reality.
ReplyYour kids will grow up cool unless you spoil them with your Cracked riches.
ReplyIt obviously wasn't your intent, but this was the best advertisement for Fable II I've ever seen. I am immediately ordering that s**t on Amazon right now.
ReplyKids are gonna see violence and nudity no matter what. When they go to school, the 'cool kids' are going to talk about their kill streak in Assasins Creed or their Achievements in Saints Row. It's impossible now to completely keep a child's 'innocence' so I say just let them play and try to teach them that they shouldn't try and emulate it in reality. That is... unless you keep them in a windowless house in the middle of nowhere and don't allow them to bathe or use the bathroom without taking their clothes off.
ReplyThis comment makes no sense and I just wanted to say something.
Oh god I was messing around with a friends copy of the newest Saints Row and it is definitely not for kids. The character was naked, used a giant dildo as a weapon, I turned everyone into drunken zombies and was beating them to death with the dildo Lol
This is an excellent article, loved it and all the jokes. I'll have to show it to my sister who has a toddler.
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