5 Unfought Wars That Would Have Changed Everything
Some day we're going to look back at the wars of the 20th century and laugh. Except not really, because they were awful and horrifying. But we can take comfort in knowing that as terrible as the wars of the last century were, some of these near misses might have really messed your shit up. Or saved the world. It could go either way, really.
WARNING: The following article contains historical speculation from a comedy website.

Depending on who you ask, General Douglas MacArthur was either one of the greatest heroes or greatest assholes in American history. After becoming generalissimo of the army during WWII, he was given the honor of heading up all UN forces when North Korea invaded South Korea in June of 1950. By mid-September MacArthur and his UN troops recaptured South Korea, but it was only a matter of weeks before MacArthur decided he might as well shimmy on over to North Korea while they were in the neighborhood.

"While we're here..."
Naturally, the Chinese got pissed over this charge into communist territory, and answered back with some troops of their own. At this point, the conflict was forced into a stalemate, not unlike the stalemate MacArthur and President Truman were enjoying over who exactly was in control of the United States Army. Especially after the Joint Chiefs of Staff convened to authorize MacArthur the ability to use nuclear weapons against Chinese targets without presidential approval.

He loved two things: smoking preposterously large pipes and committing nuclear genocide.
Mac was poised to drop 30 to 50 atomic bombs on the country, including "the mainland cities of China," whether Truman liked it or not.
What Stopped It:
Truman grew a pair and fired him.

Or his Masonic overlords told him to do it.
When Truman met MacArthur in 1950, the general refused to salute the Commander-in-Chief. That should have tipped him off as to who he was dealing with. When Truman told him to shut the hell up about nukes, MacArthur rallied the Joint Chiefs of Staff against him. Truman had a rogue general on his hands.
As if these private acts of insubordination weren't enough, pretty soon the story broke that MacArthur had sent a letter critical of the President's war policy to the Speaker of the House and the press the same day that the Joint Chiefs of Staff were meeting to give him nuke power. By April, 1951, Truman had had enough and he fired MacArthur's ass. No Chinese nuclear war for him.
If The War Had Happened...
Nuclear weapons would have become conventionalized weapons of war, and China would have been nuked several times over. As for the post-war, any country that had a nuke would have probably used one by now thanks to MacArthur's lead.

Basically, war would be Starcraft with worse voice acting.
Oh, yeah, there is also the question as to what would have become of the U.S. presidency after MacArthur had essentially staged a military coup against Truman.

World War II, as you probably already know, started when Hitler invaded Poland in 1939, and lasted until the Axis nations surrendered in 1945. Over those years, 60 million people were killed and most of the world's countries got involved with over 100 million people deployed in some form or another. Now, imagine if the entire thing could have been avoided by taking the Nazis out before they ever really got started. That's what some historians think might have happened if the Fuhrer would have gotten his way in the Fall of 1938.

If the Vienna Academy of Fine Arts had lowered its standards in 1907, we could have avoided all this unpleasantness.
In 1938, Hitler wanted the Sudetenland, the western part of Czechoslovakia that was largely occupied by ethnic Germans. And Hitler wanted it bad, so bad that he was ready to launch a war for it. The invasion he planned was called Fall Grun, or Case Green, and the Fuhrer was going to use all of the Nazi military might to get it.
What Stopped It:
This miracle of peace.

Way to go, Chamberlain.
Even though Hitler wanted war more than anything else that Christmas, England and France were still shaken over the previous world war. So the European powers managed to talk Hitler into a group therapy session at Munich, and Hitler got the Sudetenland (without Czechoslovakia's approval) in exchange for promising to be nice for the rest of the century.

He has his fingers crossed underneath that podium.
But what if Hitler had shown up drunk, pissed on the carpet, and left?
If The War Had Happened...
WWII would have been over before it began.
Hitler's generals whipped up their plan to invade Czechoslovakia, Fall Grun, but they may as well have called it Operation Many Dead Nazis. The German military was in no way prepared for what would have been war with France and England in 1938, especially while the bulk of their army would have been fighting their way through the Sudetenland. Their whole military was "under-trained, underprepared and unequipped" for any kind of a fight, which is why Hitler's chief of the general staff Ludwig Beck resigned in protest over the operation.

German Wehrmacht, circa 1938.
So, if the Munich Pact hadn't blundered its way into existence, Hitler would have invaded, England, France, Poland and Soviet Russia would have rallied against them, the Nazis would have exhausted their resources, and they would have been soundly defeated in months. Boom. Done. The conflict would likely have gone down as one more European war, getting a one-page summary in the history books. No blitzkrieg, no fall of France, no Holocaust and a new cast of characters in every WWII shooter ever made.

We're guessing they'd be Eskimos.

While Anglo-American relations may seem awesome now thanks to J. K. Rowling, Monty Python and Shaun of the Dead, the fact remains that the U.S. and UK spent a lot of time trying to kill each other before settling on their common interests. War Plan Red was America's playbook for a worst-case military scenario with the entire United Kingdom: Britain, India, Canada, anywhere that flew the Union Jack.

War Plan Red. The choice of "Emerald" for Ireland is evidence that war planners might be the least imaginative people on the planet.
By 1902, the U.S. had already fought two wars with England and nearly fought a third one in 1896. So when the UK established an alliance with our not-friends Japan, the U.S. government got a little jumpy. Things cooled off after WWI, but the U.S. Secretary of War and the Secretary of Navy nevertheless approved War Plan Red as late as 1930. Nobody thought we would ever use it until something kind of scary happened in 1937... there were rumors that King Edward VIII of the United Kingdom was pro-Nazi.

Naaaaaah.
What Stopped It:
A little WTF moment in history called the abdication crisis. On December 11, 1936, Edward VIII shocked the planet when he resigned as King-Emperor of the British Empire to marry a twice-divorced desperate housewife named Wallis Simpson. Who was Wallis Simpson? A woman who Hitler himself thought "would have made a good Queen."

And she felt the Nazis were "rather dapper blokes."
While the king wasn't exactly in a position of great authority over his country to begin with, he was perfectly capable of leaking Allied secrets to his German buddies. Which, by the way, is something historians suspect he and Wallis did once the war started and the UK was firmly in the anti-Nazi camp. Edward was still a nightmare for the Brits, but fortunately he was no longer in power.
If The War Had Happened...
Say hi to the new United States of America.

Courtesy of John Candy and friends.
The War Department recognized that Canada was the British Empire's best route to strike deep into the American continent, so War Plan Red dictated that the U.S. would launch a full invasion against Canada via Vermont, North Dakota and the Midwest. The playbook even included such delectable pointers as how "the best practicable route to Vancouver is via Route 99."

"Soon, men, we will have enough Maple syrup to sate America's great hunger."
With the Great Lakes a war-zone and Canada's Pacific and Atlantic coasts blockaded by the U.S. Navy, War Plan Red would have ended in nothing short of Canada's utter surrender to the United States of America. Worst case scenario: the United States gets Quebec. Best case: the whole plate of pancakes plus whatever islands in the Pacific, Atlantic and Caribbean we considered a threat to America's newfound superpower status.








It's funny how everyone in the comments is calling speculation about what would happen if such-and-such did something as if it was fact.
ReplyIn the case of No.4, Although Hitler was not a very nice gentleman, If he hadn't signed the piece of paper in Neville Chamberlain's hand and not invaded Poland (as history shows the opposite) WWII would not have started - Yay? - Nay! I'll explain... WWII doesn't kick off prompting thousands of soldiers getting what could be their last groove on with their wives and girlfriends or best friends sisters and what-not thus creating the 'Baby Boom' of 1940. Give it 15 years, The 'Teenage Rebellion' starts, advancing such things as Rock & Roll Music, The Sexual Revolution and slacking off which although sounding like A Clockwork Orange (inspired by this generation we're talking about)it directly influenced most of what we see, hear and do today. If WWII didn't happen, we would basically be wearing Trilby hats, listening to the unruly sounds of Glenn Miller.
Replywe would have gotten are asses handed to us, the Russians had the most experienced bear cavalry in the world
ReplyFunny how there is no mention of the planned Allied intervention in the Winter War between Finland and the USSR in 1940. Y'know, back when Stalin and Hitler were as chummy as two megalomaniacs can get with one another (see Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, invasion of Poland, various commercial agreements by which the USSR shipped millions of tonnes of critical raw materials to Hitler's war machine, etc. etc.)? Oh, that's right! Nobody in the West really knows all too much about that lovely period of time before Barbarossa, because it's drowned out by the cacophony of Victory Day parades, propaganda-swallowing historians, and the crocodile tears of the Soviet and Russian leadership over the losses they incurred from playing with fire.
ReplyIf the intervention had occurred as planned, it would have pitted the UK and France against the USSR in addition to Nazi Germany. Hitler and Stalin would have likely been forced into a direct military alliance against Allied "aggression". The sides of WWII would have been drastically redrawn, and this receives no mention? This is like your #1 situation here only instead of just the Red Army, you also have to contend with the Wehrmacht.
Hitler and stalkn's secret non-aggression pact is quite well known in the west, too. The part the text book writers in the US leave out until college is how the western powers lose in Europe if hitler doesn't break that. So get down off your high horse
For the "Fall Grun" pick, I'd like to point you to the excellent Harry Turtledove series "War that Came Early" series where this exact thing happened. It did not infact turn into a whooping for Germany. Poland and Germany allied themselves due to their mutual hatred of Russia, and France was still less than empathic about taking the war to Germany. I don't want to say what happens, because Harry Turtledove books are definitely something everyone should read
ReplyPoland would never have allied with Germany politically it would have been prefferable to ally with Russia since at least they werent planning on exterminating them whereas Hitler was open about such plans and the Poles knew it.
I love when I see two Firang countries (in this case the US and Canda) Fighting with one another
Reply Hide All See All 6 RepliesHey idiots, all you firang countries are all the same no matter how you cut it.
...sure except both countries are actually very multi-cultural now, Canada of course more so then the US. Although you don't state what country you are in, I will have you know it is a high insult to a Canadian to be called the same as an American.
Because Canada wants to be SUPAH SPESHUL AN DIFFERENT from the US
I have been to both countries. the only difference is the amount of smug, self satisfied hipsters jump by 1000% when toy cross the border into Canada
Anyone who can generalise about an entire country is a f*****t that doesn't deserve oxygen
Canada is also Americans largest supplier of oil, but nobody ever thinks about that.
what the hell is a firang
According to urban dictionary its something hadji call white people (anglo-saxons in particular)
Canada would have won. 2 words: weaponized moose
Reply Hide All See All 4 RepliesWeaponized Bear.
weaponized maple syrup
Weaponized atoms.
Oh, Is that cheating?
Weaponized quarters.
come on, we all kow Canada has secret Polar Bear cavalry
ReplyFairly safe to say that Canada and it's british allies would have curb stomped the USA if it tried to invade, Today, however, Canada doesn't stand a chance, because China and even the UK probably would side with the USA and rapefested. Also, the US is very hard to invade as well. People seem to forget that just because half of it isn't snow -_- Please don't label me as one of them retarded "'MERICA IS AWESOME WE BETTER THAN Y'ALL" just stating an opinion
Reply Hide All See All 10 RepliesToday I would say we would still stand a chance. Despite the fact that Americans have far more lax gun laws there are still more guns in Canada per capita. Not to mention the Canadian Military trains all soldiers on a wide range of weapons and skills. The average Canadian soldier has the same training as a US Marine and all support staff and soldiers get the same 13 week boot camp. Believe me don't say we wouldn't stand a chance... it would not be pretty, but unless Canada was nuked we would still be standing by the time back up arrived. Also I doubt China or the UK would back up the US. The UK is still very close with Canada and would most likely come to our aid if we were attacked. China on the other hand would likely not get involved with either and sit on the side lines. But we never need to worry about this situation occurring now since we're all friends :)
Oh yeah, the UK and Canada put together to wage conventional war against the US.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*wipes tear*
Okay, let's get seriou-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. . .
don't Canadian soldiers regularly best their American counterparts in war-games/simulations?
Yes I was nice enough to leave out that Canada nearly always beats the USA at war games... The US Military could barely deal with Iraq... a less populated country with far more out dated weaponry. It's not a numbers game in war to quote Voltaire "God is on the side not of the big battalions, but of the best shots." despite the fact that I am an atheist I think you get my point.
I think it is safe to say that nobody would benefit from a US/Canada war, and that not having one would be the best scenario.
Xalver, Not sure if you've noticed, But ever see how we retire really cool shit, and thats the first you've heard of it? War games are just that, buddy.
And as a side point, who makes your militarys rifle? Ohhh, yeah... Colt.
You realize that even were your claims about Canadian infantry training completely accurate, that doesn't mean dick when your rather unimpressive air force is getting wiped out by the USAF and all of a sudden your entire homeland is open to aerial attack as well as armored columns. Handling an occupation is a lot different than winning the more conventional phase of combat during which one state seizes and occupies the territory of another (aka "war", properly), so talking about Iraq doesn't mean dick either. Also, where would Canada be getting additional armaments from, once cut off from US contractors? hard to fight without weapons, unless you're Soviets at Stalingrad.
But yeah, kind of a silly pissing contest here, especially considering that wile Canada can go toe to toe with or even best the US in various things, military might is simply not one of them.
Also, LeAmerican, last I checked, "Canada and it's [sic] british [sic] allies" fought the US once, way back in 1812 when the country was in its infancy and hardly in any shape to fight Canada alone, much less the Empire as well, and it was hardly a "curb stomp[ing]". The US fought to a tactical draw and achieved its major strategic goals despite having almost no military of any sort.
There might be some trouble in the ground war, just given the sheer size of the country of Canada. However the US military has practically reinvented itself, fighting in Iraq/Afghanistan, so the difficulties in occupying Canada might be mitigated somewhat. Its urban centers are not too distinctly different from what the US military is trained to fight in (Western-style urban planning probably makes it easier). American air dominance is assured, most certainly, since NORAD is in the US and already tracking the airspace above the NA continent.
Look at the bright side - at least s**t might stop costing more in Canada despite the currency having relative parity with the US Dollar.
well, you have to remember, the US army is pretty well trained, and they have hundreds of billions in funding, resulting in a military with the most advanced weapons and tools in the world. The sheer effect of a cooridnated strike on Canada would cripple Canada. Factor in the fact that a very large part of Canada's population live less than 100 miles from the border, the attack would instantly devasate the Canadian armed forces.
"Nobody thought we would ever use it until something kind of scary happened in 1937... there were rumors that King Edward VIII of the United Kingdom was pro-Nazi."
Reply Hide All See All 3 RepliesI can see why that would have been a big problem for the isolationist pro-appeasement United States. No... wait.... Seriously folks, as a nation you were way behind the curve on that one and it's wrong to suggest otherwise. The US didn't even do anything about American banks helping to finance the Nazis until 1942 (3 years after the war started for most of us). Interesting historical tidbit; Prescott Bush (father to GHW) was a director of such a bank. His excuse was that he wasn't pro-Nazi rather his motive was purely commercial. Which is one of the few times I can think of when 'I'm totally amoral' has been used as a defense. All that being said, Edward VIII was a fascist sympathizer - but he was very good in Memento and LA Confidential.
As soon as the words "Prescott Bush" flew out of your mouth you lose all credibility my friend.
Uh, what's wrong to suggest otherwise? The pro-appeasement track was popular for historians to push as far as the 1970s, but never gained much ground as an interpretation. Some would say IBM was a Nazi "appeaser", others would say they were existing in a free market.
IBM made the tabulating machines for Auchwitz, I think that says enough about the people running it.
Fuckin' hell. Reading a few dozen comments and seeing all of this Canada-US hate boggles my bloody mind. I was born in the UK, I've lived in both the US and Canada for extensive amounts of time and I have no idea what you people's problems are. You're two allied countries that are more similar than you are different with some distinct culture to call your own. Canada is beautiful, the economy is strong, and is a leader of a model country. The United States is influential, has a rich history, and is a world superpower. All of your biased, speculative horseshit aside. (RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE)
ReplyIt's because many Americans are snobbishly dismissive of Canada out of hand, while many Canadians have an extremely unhealthy inferiority complex that manifests in raging against their country's best ally and economic partner.
HipsterJesus is obviously an American pretending to not be one.
Reply"Depending on who you ask, General Douglas MacArthur was either one of the greatest heroes or greatest assholes in American history." Or maybe both.
I'm going for both. Many of history's great men have also been assholes.
okay i get that this is an american website so it will be biased in favour of the u.s. but still, there is a difference between patriotism and arrogance.
Reply Hide All See All 4 RepliesSomeone doesn't have a sense of humor. Not to mention that three of the entries were, in fact, NOT about the U.S. Sometimes I wonder if people are really just this stupid, or if they intentionally read humor-history articles on a U.S. based site just so they can whine about the U.S. being one of the main features.
if you read any articles by this guy you will see he basically writes love stories for the US and always falls back on the english villain stereotype. It is desperately sad. Unfortunately, I'm not a comedy writer, so I can't pen a decent rebuttal, as no one will find it as 'funny' as the article (and humour is obviously directly proportional to truth... right?). However, if you know even a tiny little bit about history, you will see that this guys articles have practically no historical fact. Its just a couple of pages of, 'I love America, we are so coooool, everyone else sucks man!'
Sybren117: Whether he loves and is biased towards the US or not, the fact remains that 1. Winston Churchill was a massive drunk and f*****g raving made and 2. That once upon a time, England *did* indeed support the Nazi party of Germany.
The British government never supported the Nazis and Baldwin who was PM at the time basically ordered the king to abdicate under threat that hed rather have no monarchy than his.
What if the US/GBR waited until November 1 and the US used the nukes that were under construction for Operation Downfall on Russia instead? That might have been the difference.
ReplyThe US probably would've went bankrupt fighting a continued two-front war.
Brits would have won war plan red by a long shot. There's just no way, need I remind you that Britain is allied with France and Russia at this time, who would have dished out a serious ass kicking
ReplyThere's just no way for what?
Id say that the couple of million Indian troops might have swayed it a bit too.
I remember a book of Turtledove called How Few Remain, its about how the US lost to the CSA, so during WW1 the US allied with Germany and invaded the CSA and Canada, the Canadians became guerrilla fighters and there was a Mormon rebellion in Utah... it was a very interesting book
Reply Hide All See All 3 RepliesI read the same...the subject is called alternate history and Harry Turtledove has written many others.
You should read the rest of the series. Although completely false, it is still an entertaining read nonetheless.
^^Oh, speculative fiction can rarely be taken seriously enough for historical consideration.
"The only way we could have come even close to winning this war would be if the U.S. dropped the A-bomb."
Reply Hide All See All 11 Replies...Or you know, you could attack from the EAST as well as the west of Russia since that would mean North America was now open as an invasion route (as well as Japan). Seriously, we f*****g owned Alaska and the Soviet Union would have had to fight a two front war without a chance to recover against an untouched United States. Which, in light of the fact that the Soviet Union was...you know...DEVASTATED by the whole affair in terms of numbers lost and damage to their ability to wage another full-scale war (estimated at 759 billion rubles in Nuremburg trials), would have meant a very tough fight indeed (especially with the loss of support from UK and US Lend-Lease programs). I'm not saying it would have been an easy Allied victory, I'm saying that it would not be an easy contest to decide by any means. Seriously, soldiers and weapons alone do not win wars, there is something to be said about production, morale, and economic strength.
Well, the Soviets would really only need to stay in Western Russia. That means the the Americans would have to cross Siberia to actually hurt Russia. It would take a lot of money to deliver soldiers, equipment, rations,etc.
Yea, you're pretty f****n stupid. launching an attack mid summer, would mean our troops would have gotten there at the start of winter and no military in history of ever everever has pulled of a Russian winter invasion.
And another thing, The AK-47 (AKA, the second modern assault rife ever) was just two years from finalization. The Strumwegher would never stand a chance to that, even if the Americans used it. The Soviets were also just four years from their first Nuke, "Joe 1", called by the Americans. Plus, Joseph Stalin, while an asshole, was an amazing Military tactition. "Operation Unthinkable" should've been called "Operation WE'RE FUCKED."
I don't think any of you know what you are talking about :\
Actually, the Mongols pulled off a pretty successful winter invasion of Russia. The ice made it easier for their horses to cross rivers
and nukes, dont forget the nukes
@758956
You fail at reading comprehension. This would be a TWO front war as there would also be British in the west. Again, I'm not saying easy victory for anyone, just that it would not be a super-quick Russian victory.
@TimGuevara
Good luck mass-producing that in a blown up hell-hole.
Yeah, people like to look at WWII and talk about how unbeatable Russia is on its home soil. Never mind that they got their asses royally beat in WWI, had their whole country taken over by the Mongols, lost the Crimean War, and took quite a whoopin' from the Nazis in the '40s. At some point you start to run out of manpower to maintain both a massive army (the USSR's main advantage over the Allies would have been in numbers) as well as the enormous level of industrial production needed to support this renewed war effort. Meanwhile, the US was (relatively) unscathed by the conflict and its materiel production was peaking in late '45. All this on top of the demonstrated willingness of large regions and populations like the Ukraine to defect to anyone who wasn't the Soviets that were killing them all.
Obviously the entire USSR wouldn't have been occupied, but to say it would have been easy for Stalin is just stupid.
the Russians already had troops in the Asian theater when they invaded Japanese controlled Manchuria, and N.Korea. how do think the whole communism thing started in south east asia
^^How did Communism get started in Asia? Er...Mao established it in China? The PRC only accepted Soviet influence in its government to a certain extent.
The Russian army was better than ever by that point 10 million veterans and nothing in Western Europe that could have stopped them, on top of that they had enough forces to break the Japanese land army in Manchuria and Korea in a matter of weeks.
Bear cavalry!!! Holy shit!! Hollywood, I demand a movie, now. Putin, I demand that you personally lead a battalion of bear cavalry to sack Berlin. After that you will drink a cocktail and say with a debonair smile, "It will be hard for Germany to 'claw' their way out of this one."
Replyyou dont make demands of putin
Sorry to say it, but Canada would have gotten rolled. The Brits wouldn't have gotten across the channel to stop us, and by the time they got there, they'd have been running into a gun line of ships, and men. With no place to safely land, they'd have had to try to storm a cost line, and would have cost them far too much. War Plan Red, was never planned to work, but simply to prepare for anything.
Reply Hide All See All 7 RepliesOkay, there's a few things wrong with that: the Brits still had a more powerful navy, so they could do whatever the hell they wanted, the British empire had a vast quantity of manpower in South Asia and Sub-Saharan Africa, Canada has the longest coastline of any country on the planet, and the US sure as hell doesn't have the man-power to guard the whole damn thing, and lastly they wouldn't have needed to land in Canada because the Brits owned Newfoundland until 1949.
I'm not sure it depends on how quickly the Canadian's could rally they did prove in the First World War that they are hard as f**k and will happily sit in mustard gas if they need to. Also the British Navy at this time was the most powerful in the world and America simply didn't have the resources to stop them from landing for too long, although this depends on how quickly Canada rallies and because of the en tant cordial there is the possibility, but no sure thing, of France and Russia joining in. So could work just depends on how quickly Canada can respond, but even if they did respond quickly they could only really hope for damage limitation, much like the first few years of WW1 and probably could have lead to WW1 being fought on American soil instead of Europe.
Nice Whitehouse you have their. Pity if it got burnt to the ground. Again. ;)
no matter what during the periods of the two big wars the he Empire had the manpower and training to kick just about every arse, if the US did onvade Canada, there is the problem of climate, ive never been state side yet alone to Canada, but i know its f*****g cold, and with plenty of terain to wage a gurilla war, the US army at the time was ill trained and ill equiped compred to the UK and its allies, even tho we still worked on WWI tactits those could have been upated and used to kick 5 shades of shite out of America, cos we only lost the American revolution cos of French and Spanish intervention and we didnt really give a s**t bout America
The Empire and its military were designed to oversee and maintain order over a vast maritime empire, not to fight large-scale conventional wars against gritty bastards like the Yanks. Its naval preponderance would have been a massive asset, but to act like the Empire could have ferried over the Atlantic sufficient manpower to outgun the US is simply absurd. How? Arm massive numbers of Indians and expect them to fight for their colonial masters rather than the country that threw off the same yoke India currently toiled under? The sheer space involved assures that neither the US nor Canada would have won a decisive victory, but to act like the last throes of empire had millions of men to spare from colonial duties to go fight across the pond is rather naive.
^ Nope. Manpower can mean very little if an enemy is kept isolated in his land. This era was Modern Warfare two where even the Russian military can magically s**t soldiers and supplies over the US; Navies still meant something during WW2.
Russia would have jumped at the chance to jump on the US and the British army had 2 milion Indian soldiers in WW1 and that kind of muster would have been plenty on its own or are you unfamiliar with the contributions of imperial troops in both World Wars.
Warplan Red would have ended very badly for the US, the entire British empire would have moved against them, remember this is pre-WWII and the Empire was in a much better position then the US at the time, and would have stomped them into the ground.
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