7 Classic Star Wars Characters Who Totally Dropped the Ball
Here at Cracked we don't hesitate to hold our leaders accountable for bad decisions. Even if those leaders are childhood heroes. And are entirely fictional.
For instance, such decisions abound in the original Star Wars trilogy, to the point that the entire plot is basically driven by people using the worst judgment possible. How else can you explain...

In Episode IV, Admiral Motti, riding high on the whole "Death Star" thing, finally decides he's going to tell Vader off just like he practiced over the phone with his mother. After bragging that he's not scared of Vader, he tells him that his "sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes, or given you clairvoyance enough to find the rebels' hidden fortress...[Choking sounds]." Clearly Motti doesn't realize that he was only named for the sake of the action figure packaging and will not be returning for any of the sequels.

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Even though Darth Vader is a seven-foot-tall bionic killing machine with a sword that can cut through anything, making a personal attack against the man's religion is totally uncalled for. Any manager, be it of the Galactic Empire or Dunkin Donuts, is probably going to fire you if you interrupt a board meeting to call him the equivalent of "a fucking Jew." Even if you were partially responsible for an incredible new product with limitless planet-destroying potential.

What did you think we were talking about?
Of course Darth Vader, being that seven-foot-tall bionic killing machine, has a definition of "fire" that is more in line with the common definition of "strangle to death". If Grand Moff Tarkin hadn't told Vader to stop, he probably would've thrown Motti out the goddamn window like Patrick Swayze in Road House. As it stands, we're pretty sure the Admiral had been promoted to cleaning toilets on the detention level by the time Luke blows the place up at the end.
The point of the scene seems to be that somehow Motti didn't know Vader had magic telekinetic strangling abilities. But even so, and even if an Imperial officer like Motti somehow also missed the memo on what not to say to a Dark Lord of the Sith, that still means that he thought Vader only had about 37 different ways to instantly kill him instead of 38 (most involving a lightsaber neatly carving through his groin).
What we're saying is that Motti was hired not for his tactical acumen but purely for his ability to sneer.


For an intergalactic gangster, Jabba the Hutt seems to be about as much of a criminal mastermind as Robin Williams in Jack. He holds a Rebel officer prisoner, enslaves the Rebel princess and laughs in the face of a Jedi Knight. This would be a sterling approach if Jabba were trying to go to war with the Rebellion, but seeing as how he's just a sleazy racketeer whose entire operation amounts to little more than a hotel/casino on Tatooine, he probably could've used a few more advisors.

Preferably one that doesn't look like a vampire penis.
First of all, Jabba holds two high-profile prisoners but never demands a ransom of any kind, and in fact refuses money when it is offered to him. Unless he funds his operation with bounced checks and jellybeans, this is counterproductive. Keeping the prisoners brings the Jedi heat to his palace, which in turn leads to the worst decision Jabba makes in the film: refusing Luke's offer.

Surprisingly poor strategist.
Luke tells Jabba up front that if the prisoners aren't released, he will kill everything that moves and take them anyway. A Rancor and a porcine guard later, this offer is generously repeated, at a point where it is now clear that Luke is not just some dumbass in a stolen Jedi robe. But again, Jabba opts for the prideful route, which makes us wonder how he ever managed to succeed in organized crime in the first place.
About seven minutes later, every member of Jabba's operation has either been exploded, stabbed, shot, strangled or tossed into a giant sand vagina. Clearly he was never meant to manage a Domino's Pizza let alone hold the reigns of an underworld empire.

After Vader reveals he is turning Han over to Boba Fett and will be taking Leia and Chewie with him, Lando sets about freeing them to try and intercept the bounty hunter before he loads Han onto Slave 1.
However, he neglects to explain his rescue plan before removing Chewie's handcuffs, and as far as the wookiee and Leia know, Lando is still just the guy that dimed them all out to the Empire.

Snitches get stitches. Also, we strangle them.
See above. Chewie is an alien monster roughly the size of a doorframe with murderous rage tap-dancing around in his brain. We're surprised he didn't just start bludgeoning Lando to death with his manacles as soon as the Imperial guards were dispatched.
Leia is about a remark away from telling Chewie to snap Lando's head off like a Pez dispenser when he finally manages to gurgle out his plan to save Han. Had Lando simply gone over this before unchaining Chewbacca's giant meathooks, the "throttling" faux pas could've been avoided.
And that's a crucial point, because while Chewie chose the slow strangling method, perhaps because he wanted to see Lando's eyes pop out of his skull like one of those rubber squeeze toys, we know that he could just as easily have knocked Lando's head off his shoulders like a toddler smacking a baseball off a tee.

Lando's trilogy-saving explanation would have been left gurgling from a ragged neck stump.

Leia rightfully thinks that her bold rescue and subsequent escape from the Death Star at the hands of Han and Luke were too easy. She's suspicious that Vader and Tarkin let them get away in order to track them to the rebel base on Yavin IV, so in a stunning display of leadership, she has Han go there anyway, because fuck it. The Empire was going to find it eventually.
And really what's the use of a secret base when you're trying to subvert a powerful regime?
Why It Was a Bad Call:Leia has seen the Death Star blow up her home planet like Bruce Vilanch in a microwave, so she knows the thing is no joke.

Somewhere down there, Jimmy Smits is burning to death.
And we know she's got some serious steel because with her entire planet under threat, she lies with a straight face about where the Rebellion is. So why in the Dooku does she leave the Empire a trail of space breadcrumbs to the only home she has left in the galaxy?
Or couldn't she have called ahead to let them know the Imperial fleet was on its way with their giant murder ball? At the very least, Leia could've had her underlings turn off all the lights in the base and pretend like no one was home. As it stands, the Rebels emerge victorious, but we have to believe that if Leia hadn't led the enemy directly to them, more than two pilots might have survived the assault.

His fat, sweaty blood is on your hands, Princess.








In #1 they wanted the stolen plans not destroy them. If the empire wanted them destroyed they would have blew up the ship as apposed to searching it.
ReplyIn #6 just because Jabba doesn't sell Han that doesn't mean that there is something wrong with his entire operation. There are two likely possibilities that explain what his is doing 1)He is waiting a while so that the Rebellion would pay more for Han 2)He wants to keep Han, for example if a diamond salesman receives a diamond wedding ring from her husband would you call her crazy for not selling it? The Empire gave Han as a gift why would Jabba sell him?
ReplyJabba the Hutt is really f*****g OLD in the movies, so we can cut him a bit of slack, because its likely he only retained his position out of respect for past accomplishments. Devil-eyed-penis-headed boy probably organized most of the operation anyway. Turns out that all of the Hutts, upon obtaining success, are supposed to let their minds and bodies atrophy as a sign of their extreme wealth and power. And most who do so have an assistant who is seen with them at practically all times.
Replyas much as i love star wars, i think i love seeing people argue about it more. unless youre between the ages of 8-15, its not socially acceptable to argue about it. ANYWHERE. especially the internet.
Replythey're not arguing about star wars per say, they're arguing about -writing- and -screenplay-
I was afraid that this article would be retarded like I find many of this sites movie articles. I just feel the articles don't take into account the weird choices people can make sometimes. Like the empire putting an operational planet-destroying laser higher on the priority list than a fully operational shield. The reason for this is in all the movies. It's the point Luke was making to the Emperor in Jedi. That overconfidence would be the Empires downfall. I don't know I could go into it more but I feel like these things make the writing and movie seem more real, like real people. Yeah, the Empire could have won no problem with better or no helmets on the Stormtroopers but they were more wrapped up in self image and intimidation. I think the scripts of the originals are pretty airtight (Jedi is a little damaged but that's cause Lucas had more of a say and started going crazy by then). I really don't see any plot holes. Am I wrong?
ReplyThe same goes for Jabba. It isn't like there's no real precedent. A lot of criminals, be it the mob or some other organized crime syndicate, can make some pretty boneheaded moves and get caught due to overconfidence.
Amazing article. I'm a big Star Wars fan, and although some of the arguments against you that I've read in the comments may or may not be valid, f*****g hysterical list.
Reply"Clearly he was never meant to manage a Domino's Pizza let alone hold the reigns of an underworld empire." Bwahahaha! I laughed so hard I choked myself near to death. Thanks for the Vader brah!
Reply"He even forgoes his normal practice of choking people with his mind to choke a dude for real."... and now I'm dead. >
Two reasons they didn't blow up the Gas Planet.
Reply1) Energy released by blowing up a large ball of gas destroys the death star
2) ITS A f*****g MOVIE. It adds tension. Virtually all of every action movie is bollocks. It doesn't have to make sense, it has to entertain.
Look, any halfway decent screenwriter could have written circles around half of these plotholes with time to spare. The only reason they made it in is that George Lucas like shiny spaceships and can't stand intelligent writing.
I agree with the Last guy. Alderaan got blown up, sure, but it was Earth-sized, I'd assume (actually a tiny bit smaller, it seems). Yavin's apparently Jupiter-sized (it's a gas giant, it's been said).
Actually, scratch that - I did some quick research. Yavin's radius is almost 50% higher than that of Jupiter, and it's the largest planet we have in our system. That makes Yavin (by volume) about thirty thousand times larger than Earth (and Alderaan), rounding down.
Thirty thousand times larger is kind of a lot. Might just tip the scales in terms of blowing planets up.
To illustrate: If Earth or Alderaan were represented by tennis balls, then, to scale, Yavin would be a ball like two meters across. If a gunshot can explode a tennis ball, fine - but I doubt the two-meter ball would be much worse for wear.
This really drops the ball...Everyone knows that all of this is Yoda's fault.
ReplyWell, he did have to go into exile for...uh, some...well, basically no reason
i think the most obvious case of dropping the ball was the death star having a hole that, if shot ONCE, could destroy the death star....couldnt you have atleast put something over it or have made it small enough that you couldnt shoot two missiles down it?
Reply Hide All See All 6 RepliesBut that actually happened in real life. See The Bismark. Just it wasn't in space. And it was a giant boat.
What does the guy who rapped, "You say he just a friend" have to do with this? ;)
If I recall that hole in the Death Star was an exhaust port of some kind so I don't see how covering it would be such a good idea... It makes far less sense that the Death Star had so few TIE fighters to protect it, there should've been swarms of them patrolling around that thing.
thank god there's someone who understands that it's just in the history of human nature to make weird choices that baffle us later.
it was kind of an aesthetic choice by the architect.
An exhaust port that is covered by something makes a horrible exhaust port
Maybe that guy had to fill paperwork for every shot he fired and wanted to spare the hassle?
Replyor tossed into a giant sand vagina.
Replyhee hee sand vag
I don't think that the Yavin scenario is as bad as you make it out to be, in all honesty.
Reply Hide All See All 7 RepliesFirst of all, as others have said, it's the goddamn Death Star. You have what is easily the most powerful and seemingly invincible weapon and it's difficult to believe that you can be stopped.
Secondly, I believe that the planet that the Rebel base orbits is a gas giant, whereas the Death Star has only been shown to destroy rocky planets like Alderann. I'm not familiar with the science behind giant lasers, but would the laser be able to destroy a gas giant, not made entirely of solid material and easily several times larger than Alderann?
Third, I'm not familiar with the battery life of the Death Star, but I'm pretty sure that moving the bastard and firing the laser takes a lot of energy. It's entirely possible that moving the Death Star into position would force it to wait even longer for the laser to charge up and blow up the planet.
Rant over, my opinion has been voiced. :p
good point , imagine if the laser would go thru the gas and hit the moon ;p i think the official reason is that to recharge the laser takes a long time.
Sounds reasonable, I don't see any reason for him not waiting a bit to get the definitive shot, instead of trying other uncertain approaches like blowing the big planet.
That was a very sound rant. It would have helped if they'd explained why (I'm sure George Lucas' is "Cuz stuff"), but it's possible that the mass and tremendous gravity of Yavin could have affected the shot, even at light speed, or affected the targeting (although from what we saw they knew exactly where the moon was). And yes, if the first shot isn't effective and the Death Star takes a long time to recharge, that allows the Rebels ample time to evacuate. Although again, I'm guessing the real reason is "Cuz stuff".
...also I heard that the original Death Star took like 24 hours to power up that lazer thingy...
If someone writes a story based in the Star Wars universe, and it's approved by George Lucas, it's considered part of Star Wars lore from that point on. This is so with the game Star Wars: The Force Unleashed. In one level of this game you are inside the part of the Death Star where the laser shoots from. It is shooting the laser while you're in it, and it never takes longer than 30 seconds to charge enough for another shot. So there you have it. The Death Star can fire that laser with very little recharge/cool-down time.
That would be a valid reason if everything in the Expanded Universe made sense with everything else, but there are many contradictions, and something from a game could certainly be one of those. Besides, the main part of games that becomes canon is the stories themselves. Background details like that don't really count. And finally, if anything contradicts one of the movies, the movies win. Movies have the most canonocity.
alls im gonna say is, if they flew the damn thing across space to blow up the base, moving it just a liiiiittle bit more so that the planet isnt in the way isnt going to use up more than a fraction of power.
You missed the most ridiculous part of the Yavin scenario. The Death Star waits for the moon to cycle around the planet to come within firing range. It's the Death Star. It's specifically designed to destroy planets. Destroying the planet that the moon is orbiting will kill everyone on the moon. Even if it doesn't because of some movie-based ignorance of gravity and force, that pesky planet is out of your way and you can destroy the moon.
ReplyAbsolutely must resist urge to post before I read the whole damn article, sorry!
the reason jabba doesent release lukes friends when given a ransom is because giving his friends would involve giving han solo who was trapped in frozen carbonite. Which was a gift from the empire to show they would be allied.
ReplySelling a gift from the most powerful leadership in the universal wouldent go down well.
The problem with number 1 on this list is that the two gunners probably had no knowledge of the bigger picture, that being the search for stolen plans. It's the military, so they just do what they're told. Their orders were assumedly to stop anyone from escaping, and it's not like an escape pod can get very far, so rather than acting beyond the scope of their orders and risking the wrath of Vader, they decided to simply report it instead and let the people in charge decide what to do about it. From a military standpoint, this was the correct course of action.
ReplyHahah yeah the one thing you don't want to do is act on your own much in the Empire I imagine.
I think Vader's authority extended as far as the Emperor said it did, much like the vice president. The Emperor charged Tarkin with recovering the plans then told Vader to go along to make sure he didn't mess it up. It was officaly Tarkin's show so Vader answered to him.
ReplyWhy didn't they blow up the gas giant? Why would they? As far as Tarkin was concerned the Death Star was unbeatable. He figured giving the rebels a half hour or even half a day wouldn't even matter. The Death Star would cruse on in and break their back and there was nothing they could do about it.
After it all goes to hell the Emperor puts Vader in charge of capturing Skywalker and taking out the Rebellion. After all, until the Death Star was destroyed by these guys they probably weren't considered much of a threat.
Think about it. Right up til the end the Empire never really thought the Rebellion was a major threat. They were a few thousand guys causing trouble in an empire that stretched most of a galaxy.
The military, especially the evil military of an evil galactic empire, doesn't just wait around when there is a perfectly reasonable option in front of them. Even if he believed the Death Star was unbeatable some damage was going to be done. That requires repairs.
The American military has air craft carriers and nuclear subs that are nearly invulnerable compared to anybody who might attack them. If we need to use them we aren't going to wait a half an hour under attack just to prove how bad ass we are. It could be a couple dicks with pistols in a canoe. If they go attacking an air craft carrier they will instantly be killed. The military rarely, if ever, just lets attacks pass.
Even if he thinks the Death Star is invulnerable why would he wait to blow up the moon when blowing up the planet is equally effective? It's even a scarier options since folks on the moon would probably have time to see the planet explode before their moon goes. His plan literally has the only advantage of allowing his space station to be put at risk, no matter how small, before it accomplishes its goal. It's a stupid thing to do, and it's the kind of thing that only an egotistical movie villain would do. That makes it unrealistic, which is the point being made in the article.
The only real argument would be that for some reason the Death Star's main weapon doesn't work on gas giants.
And the Empire does take the rebellion seriously. In the first half of the first film they specifically demonstrate the power of their new toy to one of the leaders of the rebellion in order to intimidate her. That's a huge use of resources to put into scaring a group that you don't regard as a threat. The entire Death Star is built specifically to fight the rebellion.
But I don't think an aircraft carrier would scramble all it's fighters or fire a million dollar missile to stop a canoe. I just think the Death Star can't blow up gas giants.
Well, actually (adjusts spectacles) Jabba’s actions make perfect sense when we take away the perspective we’re afforded as viewers. First of all, he isn’t going to ask for a ransom for Han because why would he? He certainly isn’t strapped for cash here, seeing as he’s in charge of a vast criminal empire. And he never wanted Han for the money he owed. He wanted Han so that the next time someone tries to f**k him over, he can say, “You know what happened to the last guy who fucked me over? He’s hanging on my wall.” It’s not about money; it’s about making sure that people know you do not f**k around, and it’s the most basic way to get ahead in organized crime. And the fact that Han, Leia and Luke are all very involved in the rebellion would also not faze him, nor should it. Let’s remember that, as invested in the rebellion we are, as viewers, in verse it’s pretty small on the political radar, especially from someone like Jabba’s point of view. Honestly, if he had succeeded in killing or enslaving all of the main characters would the rebellion be able to do something about? No, they wouldn’t, because, seeing how they’re already stretched thin as it is, it just would not be possible. Of course Jabba knows this. And he’s also not bringing the “Jedi heat” because there’s no Jedi heat to bring. It’s just Luke, and I think we can all agree that it’s pretty impossible for Luke to convincingly bring the heat. It’s really a miracle that anyone survived that hang up, and at no point did Jabba drop the ball out of his tiny hands.
Reply Hide All See All 4 Repliesi don't completely disagree with you, but at the end of the day, successful gangsters are business men before they're anything else. in gangster speak, luke was giving jaba "an offer he could not refuse" which was: i'll pay you to release my friends, or kill you. in other words: "cake or death". obviously jaba's got his pride, so the initial threat/offer would only serve to piss him off, but like the article said, he had to realize that there was some validity to this after luke made short work of his rancor WITHOUT THE USE OF HIS GLOWING MURDER-STICK!!! this is the point when even the most feared gangsters would cut their losses and count their gains. while you're not completely wrong because of how often pride does come before the fall, it stands to reason he would've faced a similar impasse at some point earlier in his criminal career. people don't usually coast to the top of major criminal syndicates, but who knows, maybe giant slugs do. either way, if he was smart enough to think it through then, he should've been smart enough to do so when he was dealing with the rebellion. he really could've benefited from reading "the art of war" or "the prince" at a time like that.
and he kept Leia to be a sexy slave girl
fictional characters guys... FICTIONAL characters
I can't really blame Jabba, even after killing the rancor and the guard, when he made his final offer, he was literally standing at the edge of the plank handcuffed. A logical person probably wouldn't expected him to be able to escape.
Well on that Death star shooting Yavin thing, the only plot hole is why didn't it come out of hyperspace nearer to the planet, but again it's also explained in that things with huge mass have a "Shadow" in hyperspace that can disrupt flight and destroy ships that fly through them.
Reply Hide All See All 7 RepliesBut why didn't the Death Star just shoot Yavin then even at that just shoot the base right after?
1. It took 24 hours to planet killer charge. This literally takes as much energy as our sun outputs in either a year or a month. No, literally, take a rock and throw it into space, multiply that energy by all the rocks in the planet... I think the original calculation was it had the sun's yearly output from it's "Hypermatter Reactor" but then it was re-calculated that the more rocks thrown out the less overall energy, so it was downgraded to a month. Still makes all the nukes in the world look like a firecracker compared to Hiroshima.
2. The planet is a gas giant ala "Jupiter". It's much bigger than Alderan. The energy to do that is again 10, or 100 times as much, which even with their level 4 civilization that pretends to be level 3 is still a LOT.
3. Furthermore, try to shoot such a beam at a gas giant. Know what it has at its core? An ocean of "Liquid Metallic Hydrogen" surround a core of super dense, hot matter. Our own jupiter actually gives it's moons more energy than the sun, and it'll keep on doing that till long after the sun dies. A shot of energy into such a body might reflect right back out. And say there was life there, like gas critters, well they'd be fried if directly in it's path (1/100th the Red Spot) but otherwise probably not even NOTICE....
And exactly none of that was mentioned in the movie. We're talking about the actual 1977 kids movie that had no Expanded Universe to explain its screw ups. Nothing on screen explains why they didn't just blow up Yavin.
In other words, it isn't "all explained".
the reason why none of that was explained in the movie is because george lucas didn't even know it to explain it. those movies prove time and time again that he was pullin' s**t straight outta his ass as the story "unfolded". it took actual (good) writers to create the "expanded universe" and cover his ass with science. also, there's nothing ANYWHERE other than some expanded universe book and the post above that says this gas planet was A.) really just a gas planet, and B.) bigger than alderan. again, conveniently covering for someone who was obviously making s**t up as he was going along.
Once again...never mentioned it took 24 hours to charge the laser. They could've just shot the planet until it was destroyed. Also, f**k the extended universe
What the f**k do you mean George Lucas didn't even know it? If he didn't know it when he made the movie, that explanation is without Any merit. Oh, and most gas giants are mostly hydrogen, you know a gas well know for its explosive tendancies. Aka: You drop a regular bomb on it, with some oxygen canisters (Or hell a full out oxygen creative technology they must have for their death star), planet turns into so much water, and in the process destroys itself.
I seem to remember Yavin being referred to as a gas supergiant.. aka a protoSTAR. Just under what could be considered "critical mass" for stellar ignition. And a star igniting is surprisingly like a star going nova, just on a slightly less violent scale. How do we get nuclear reactions without the mass necessary for spontaneous ignition being present? We add energy to the equation. Deathstar's superlaser = buttload of energy
Two things:
24 hours to recharge? Uh, how many times is it fired in battle against ships that "can't repel firepower of that magnitude!"?
Also, it's fiction, it doesn't have to be explained. Get the f**k over it.
NERD! Yeah totally blowing up a gas giant is a whole other matter. There's probably a huge cost to firing that thing anyhow so they can't just plink off willy nilly.
A story where the plot changing statement did die with the messenger was in the manga Vagrant Soldier Ares. The main characters friend seemingly turns on him and tries to take over the world and sends an assassin to to kidnap them, but it was a ruse to get them to safety and keep them from harm, but the messenger fucked up badly and was trying to fix his mistake when he was beheaded. in the end it cost the friend his life and empire when the main character kills him
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