The 6 Most Pointlessly Elaborate Movie Murder Plots

James Bond movies are notorious for elaborate murder plots that involve large stockpiles of nuclear weapons, a small amateur army and the equivalent of the gross national product of a small Third World country. So while this one may not be the most elaborate, it is probably the most ill-conceived.
When one bad guy (Professor Dent) meets with Dr. No about their James Bond problem, Dr. No hands Dent a cage with a poisonous tarantula inside and orders that he kill Bond with it. Presumably he means with the spider, though it would have been quicker and more effective to bludgeon Bond to death with the cage.
The Problem:

According to the American Tarantula Society, the only way a tarantula bite could have killed Bond is if he were allergic to it. They are poisonous, sure, but the venom only produces a feeling no worse than a bee sting. So the worst Dr. No would have done to Bond is give him a nasty bruise or a week of muscle cramping in the name of evil.
But even if it had been some kind of genetically modified super-spider, the hard part is trying to get the thing to bite Bond. Ideally you'd need three burly guys to hold Bond down while you cram the spider down his pants. But of course at that point any weapon would work--and work better--than the spider.
Instead they wound up releasing the tarantula in Bond's bungalow where, for all the villains knew, it could have waited for six weeks before accidentally hanging itself in his chest hair.

A Better Way:
Instead of putting a spider in his bungalow, put a dude there. With a gun. To shoot Bond in the face.

A mob boss wants a Las Vegas entertainer dead, so he puts a $1 million bounty on his head so that a whole bunch of colorful and apparently grossly incompetent assassins will go after him at once. Also, the assassin is to bring the man's heart to the mob boss, whose own heart is failing.

"For my next trick, I shall make plot continuity disappear!"
A million bullets, knife wounds, shattered windows and one chainsaw to the ass crack later, we learn that the target (Buddy Israel) is actually the mob boss's son. Oh, and that the mob boss is working for the FBI.
Pretty much everyone dies.
The Problem:
Hmmm... it might have something to do with "sending nine hit men to kill one coked up magician in broad daylight, with the understanding that only one of them can collect." Seems to be a lot of room for complication there. Such as, say, the hitmen all killing each other to get the cash.

A Better Way:
The mob boss calls up his son to reconcile their relationship. He shows up at the penthouse looking disheveled and heartbroken. As father and son's eyes meet, they break down in tears and share a warm and loving embrace full of sobbing and apologies for all the wasted years. Then with a heart full of joy and redemption, the father asks for his son's forgiveness. He then shoots him in the face.

We would expect a ridiculously long and drawn-out murder plot from a villain like the Joker, a man by whom all clearly deranged and psychopathic murderers are measured. But this one had to have taken the assistance of a room full of supercomputers, and several psychics.

We're guessing the planning went something like this:
"First, we find two empty buildings. Without the cops noticing, we'll secretly sneak in hundreds of drums of explosive liquids, and wire all of them to explode. Next, we'll orchestrate an attack on the convoy transporting Harvey Dent. This will involve blocking busy streets, blowing police helicopters out of the air and launching missiles at the armored car. All of this will be done, not to kill Dent (though that could happen at any moment) but to cause Batman to intervene so that he will throw me in jail.

"So far so good..."
Then, while the whole town is on alert, we go ahead and have our henchmen kidnap both Dent and Rachel Dawes and strap them in with the bombs in the two abandoned buildings. Then I'll send Batman after one of them, knowing that this will result in Rachel being killed and Dent being a certain distance from the explosion as to become grotesquely injured and disillusioned. Then I'll blow up the jail without accidentally killing myself. Gentlemen, it couldn't be simpler."
The Problem:
Really nothing, as long as absolutely every single event happens exactly as it did in the film, down to the millimeter and microsecond.

If the rocket blows up Dent's armored car instead of hitting the Batmobile, if the Batmobile doesn't happen to have a motorcycle hidden inside it, if somebody clears the makeshift roadblock out of the way before the convoy gets there, if traffic allows the cops to get to Rachel before Batman gets to Dent, if a cop happens to be stations out in front of Rachel's building when the cops get the coordinates, if a hunk of debris from the building hits Dent and kills him as he's escaping the explosion...
You get the idea.
A Better Way:
The Joker makes a bullet disappear by shooting Rachel in the face.
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To find out how these over the top plans are likely to end, check out 6 Baffling Mistakes Every Movie Criminal Makes. Or check out the baffling plans Hollywood had for some of its greatest flicks in 7 Terrible Early Versions of Great Movies.








The thing you left out with the joker, he would be perfectly happy if the plan fell apart. He just does random things to create chaos. To quote him from the movie, "Do I look like I have a plan?"
ReplyWhile yes, techinically he does have plans, the character strikes me as one that wouldn't have a problem changing it on the fly and rollin with the punches if he needed to. His ultimate plan is to break the will of mankind. Everything else, are more like guidelines. That's my interpretation anyway, and I enjoy the movie so I think I'll just stick with that interpetation.
I thought 'Cube' was about a hyper-harsh penalty system and not about "survival" or "learning to cooperate"...all the characters were named after prisons, after all, and at least one of the characters in the film was behind its construction; this leads me to think that they were the cube's first victims and were being fed to it in order to kill everyone who knew about it so that it could remain top-secret once it was in operation.
ReplyJoker is crazy and utterly unpredictable. He DOES have plans, despite what he tells Dent. The phone-bomb surgically placed in one of his henchmen is proof of this.
ReplyBut he didn't plan everything ahead. If he did, he wouldn't be standing there wanting Batman to run him over and kill him, but then in the next moment working to drive Dent insane.
Unless he entered a sudden, temporary state of depression and wanted to die (watched Batman & Robin just before the chase, perhaps?).
Pahaa! You think the joker planned any of that? Admittedly when I first saw this I thought the whole thing was a bit far fetched. But then I realized that the Joker is a really good bullshitter and is saying and doing the things that will most piss off Batman in those situations. What happened to Harvey was luck as far as the joker was concerned.
ReplyLast line was AWESOME.
ReplyWith the Joker, didn't he want Dent dead, but then improvised after that failed?
Replycube should be excluded. it wasnt about murder, it was more about survival. i dont think who/whatever designed that thing wanted everyone to die.
Reply Hide All See All 4 RepliesOh really? THEN WHY DID HE MAKE THE ROOMS SHOOT ACID AT PEOPLE?! God that was a fun but stupid movie.
If it was about survival the creator could have filled the cube with feathers, puppies and hot dogs. Instead, it was filled with sharp objects and acid. These are clearly not conducive to survival.
You find out in cube 2 that they are prisoners who choose to go into cube and if they survive they get freedom, course they wake up not knowing they used to be in jail. Yes I ruined cube 2 for you trust me I did you a favor.
Am I the only one that remembers that all of the people there were involved in the creation of the Cube and it was the sadistic way the owners/government/whatever used to test it and get rid of them at the same time?
The only one worth reading was the last one, imo. It made the entire article worth reading however
ReplyRemember the Joker quote: "Do I look like a guy with a plan?"
ReplyHe makes it all up as he goes along. He puts back-ups in place (like the stomach-cell-phone-bomb) but otherwise just goes with the flow.
That's what makes The Joker so dangerous. Not just to Batman, but to just about everyone in the DC Universe. From moment to moment his motives change, and even he doesn't know what he will do next. He doesn't even know his own origin, he recalls three of them and any of them might be true or none of them.
The tarantula isn't poisonous period. It's venomous.
ReplyRight. Plants are poisonous. Animals are venomous.
While it is true that plants are poisonous and MOST animals are venomous, there are still some species (like that one poisonous Dart Frog) that are legitimately poisonous.
How to tell for certain? Poison is either ingested or absorbed through the skin. Venom is injected by stinging, biting, etc.
I like this article, but have to disagree with your assessment of Smoking Aces and The Dark Knight. I'm pretty sure in smoking Aces only one assassin was purposely sent after the guy. I think the others just intervened when they heard how much money they could get. I haven't seen it in a while, so I could be wrong, but my real question of the plot would be if all these hitmen were sent to kill this man and take his heart, shouldn't they be told why the heart is needed. Most of them believe its just a symbol, so they probably wont be too careful in removing the heart so that it can be transplanted into another person. The heart may have a bullet wound, knife stabs (afterall one of the assassins plan was to stab the guy in the chest like he did to Matthew Fox), or may not even put the heart on ice. Only one killer brought the necessary tools to successfully remove a heart, so I think that was the only one hired for the job.
ReplyAs for The Dark Knight, you're absolutely right, if that was all in the plan. But I always got the feeling that most of Joker's actions were just taking advantage of situations. And if they work out one way, then good, and if they don't, he would do something else. I'd like to reiterate that I like this article and I like this writer, but I like dissecting movies more. So I couldn't help but write something.
I think Joker just got the cash from the bank at the start then just went with the flow. He didn't burn all of it, a lot of it was used to buy the buildings and explosives and trucks et al. Then he just bought what he needed and made backup plans.
You implied part way through your first paragraph that you watched Smoking Aces more than once. I hope you realize that all opinions you ever have are made invalid by that admission.
For the Joker part I don't agree at all. Remember, in the movie he says "I just do things..." He has a plan without having a plan, he's like "let's kill Dent" (as he thought he was the real Batman remember?), then Dent survives and Batman is not Dent (what a twist for him). He planned being busted even if Dent's dead... As Dent survided, he had a plan B ("let's wait and see how things goes"), then as Dent survived and Dawes killed, he just used him or fun... That's all! He didn't really plan anything from A to Z...
Reply Hide All See All 3 RepliesHe got himself into jail to get to that dude from hong kong, don't forget that.
Not to mention the fat guy with the cellphone bomb inside him would have taken quite a bit of planning.
The Joker even flat out tells Dent that he wasn't involved in him getting kidnapped.
You're assuming the entire plan is there from the start.
ReplyThe last two points are a fail, good sir. Smokin' Aces was about how everything went to s**t because of an info leak (the gathering was intended in the second part, where they were supposed to kill each other while trying to get the mark). Whereas the Joker is the manifestation of chaos, that does random s**t to random people to see what happens, and then does something with the outcome, having no definite goal on the horizon.
ReplyThematically, the point of Smokin' Aces is that the whole thing turned into a clusterfuck due to a misunderstanding. Lazlo Soot was the only one to get the contract, everyone else just thought it was open contract since one of the mob bosses was planning on double crossing the mafia leader, and put out an open contract.
ReplyYou all missed the point of Smokin' Aces. The point was that Alicia Keyes was a super hot lesbian...in leather...with a gun...
The Joker was, by his own admission, not a fan of "plans" or the kind of people who make them.
ReplyYeah the Joker never likes to plan anything in the movie with the obvious exception of the opening bank job… then three assassinations (granted one fails) or the grenade vest escape plan and jail break. Maybe he was just wingin it with the whole one boat blows up the other but if they don’t that’s ok because I have a spare detonator be who can say what’s going on in that crazy clown mind. So yeah there’s no planning there
I don't know, maybe the INSANE part of him makes rationalization pointless?
Why must everyone get shot in the face? It's so very unoriginal. XD
Reply Hide All See All 4 RepliesShot in the face
Shooting them in the ass is less effective in the long run.
I hear being shot in the torso or limbs is what's hot on the street these days.
They were all out of knees?
The Joker doesn't know how things are going to turn out, and doesn't care. He just does things to see what happens.
Replyand yet he plans multistep long wided plans.
He doesn't plan anything. he just has things to do if something goes a certain way. Most likely he makes it up as he goes along. Sometimes i feel like he has the means to murder everyone and anyone at all times just in case something happens and thats an appropriate thing to do to further the chaos.
Stuntman Mike in "deathproof" was a serial killer. he wasn't a professional killer interseted in efficiency. the ritual aspect of rebuilding a new car and the lead-up to the killing act were a necessary and very important part of the act for him.
ReplyI think that the Joker was actually trying to kill Harvey, and from the point when he gets arrested, he's just really, really good at thinking on his feet.
ReplyI think that's what the joker does the whole time