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You might not be aware of this, but there are a lot of dickheads on the Internet. Since this phenomenon seems to get worse with the size of the crowd, it is theorized that we will reach a critical mass; an Asshole Apocalypse, if you will. That's when casual Internet users--and the corporations who want their business--will step in. There are ways to solve this crisis, but I'm telling you now, you won't like some of them.
But first, the problem...
There are two huge, growing industries at stake: social networking and online gaming. Social networking is at the heart of "Web 2.0," the future of the online world, the Facebook/MySpace/Twitter web where users create all the content and their parent companies make billions just for hosting it. It's a pretty sweet deal.
Or it would be, if they could only convince everybody to use it. But they're finding that lots of users will communicate online with people they know (virtually all use email and 37% use private text messaging), but only 8% use message boards or blogs or anything else that exposes them to the Internet's assheads.
Hell, look at this site. We just had an article that was read by 305,396 unique users in a few days ... but fewer than 100 of them joined the conversation down in the comments. That's .002%, folks. It's not that the Cracked comments are mostly retarded or nasty; it's that for a normal person, the memory of getting called a fucktard in public even one time is striking enough to make them avoid the comments forever, even if it was accompanied by 10 non-fucktard comments. It's human nature to remember the fucktard. It's the same in gaming. There are reports that most people who give up online gaming aren't frustrated by the games themselves or technical issues. It's the sheer number of fuckwads they have to play with. Even on the most popular online multiplayer game, World of Warcraft, 70% of new players stay in modes where they don't have to interact with anybody else. So there is a clear barrier to entry for the vast majority who haven't joined the Web 2.0 party, and that barrier is a moat full of dipshits. How can we bridge it? I see five ways: #5.
Develop Anti-Troll Software
Imagine a world where you get in a heated argument in a hallway, but before even one sentence can get fully out of your mouth, a robot voice pipes up and tells you to cool it. Well, what sounds like really stupid science-fiction in real life is entirely possible online. Of all the futuristic movies to turn out to be cruelly accurate, who would have thought it'd be Demolition Man? I'm talking about programs like: StupidFilter: This highly experimental piece of software is in beta and will some day be able to recognize comment stupidity the moment it's posted. They have a demo on their site you can play with. You plug this code into your comment section and it's like a strap of tape over the mouth of every teenager who can't type a sentence without including the word "fail."
Robot9000: This is a program invented by Randall Monroe, the XKCD webcomic guy that requires every post to be unique. If someone types "First!", no other post can ever consist of just that. This sounds pointless to anybody who's never been in a chat room or message board before, but the rest of us know better. Mindless repetition of jokes (or "memes") is one of the primary tools of bored trolls who want to fill a thread with noise to drown out the signal. For once, many will find themselves using keys other than Ctrl-V. Audio Preview: Linguists speculate that no single body of written communication in the history of human language has ever been as collectively retarded and horrible as the comments under YouTube videos. After the aforementioned Randall Monroe suggested a feature to force users to hear their comment read aloud before they can post it, YouTube implemented that very thing (though only on an optional basis). Many a YouTuber has sat in dismayed silence after realizing that "lol wut", when spoken aloud, did not sound as clever a they had first believed.
Real-Time Voice Censor: Now we're in the realm of the real Demolition Man-type solutions. Want to know how bad Microsoft wants to control the trolls on Xbox Live? They've patented a real-time voice censoring program. Yeah. You curse into your headset and it bleeps it in real time. How does it know the difference between "The cock crows at midnight" and "My cock grows at midnight"? With technology. Don't question it. Of course, widespread use of this stuff will just kick off the same "DRM vs. pirates" arms race we see any time they try to control human behavior with software. The humans always win. Also, the technology has to get a whole lot smarter before we can even try. Playing with the StupidFilter demo I linked earlier taught me that it doesn't find any stupidity in the sentence, "lol, wut your mom farts lolcats." There are better ways. For instance, you can... #4.
Start a Posse of Moderators, and Arm Them
Right now if you have a blog or forum or anything else with open comments, and you don't have a human moderator to watch it, you're going to wind up with a wasteland. As soon as more than one troll shows up, they will feed off each other until everyone else is gone. You have to control them. And don't start talking about free speech; the troll's goal is to shut down speech, to either fill the channel with noise until no one can talk to each other, or to get everyone talking about him instead of the subject at hand. He's a guy in a coffee shop screaming nonsense over a bullhorn.
And it's here where the marriage of creative software and human moderators can make all the difference. With things like... Disenvoweling: This is a bit of code that will suck all of the vowels out of a targeted post, so that this: "What an unfunny piece of shit. Somebody should be fired for letting this guy write for the site." Becomes: "Wht n nfnny pc f sht. Smbdy shld b frd fr lttng ths gy wrt fr th st." The theory is that it makes people slow down and try to parse what was being said and thus robs the post of its impact. Also it makes the troll look retarded. Karma: Geek megaportal SlashDot was among the first to use this, a way of allowing the community to moderate itself. Registered users can vote every post up or down, and each user winds up with a karma "score" that is just the sum total of all the "up" votes minus the "down" ones they've ever gotten. We use this in the Cracked forums (where each member's karma score is visible to other members at all times). You can only vote once per day, so even a coordinated karma voting campaign couldn't change a score faster than the rest of the community could correct it. Yes, it works. Everyone claims they don't care what their karma is, yet any time a person sees an unexplained drop, I get an email complaining about it. You just can't ignore a number right next to your name that announces what the community thinks of you.
But we're still thinking small, on a site-by-site basis. After all, assheads will simply migrate to places where security isn't as tight. If this is an Internet-wide problem, we need to think big. But how? |
Wow. This has been the least funniest (but most thought-provoking) article I have read on Cracked. I really like how they brought up World of Warcraft because almost everyone on the game is a complete douchebag. I motion that we take the advice given and enforce it.
Heck, I'm already a sad, deluded man in a ridiculous hat. But that don't stop me none from a-yodelin' my ding-dang-doo down the ol' Chisholm Trail there, pardner, yeeeeeedawgy! I say we breed internet ogres to hunt down the internet trolls and butt-rape them to death. Then we won't have any problems! (I mean--you know. Except for the horny ogres roaming free.) Yessssssssss.
yeahh that StupidFilter doesnt really work well...
The vast majority of the article agree with, while the only two I find some problems with is the pay for membership and laws. Laws exist on some sites, in the form of bans. There are actual very few sites that can post user content and not get banned and one thing I've discovered as a moderater on my forum is that it's easy to figure out who's an alt of a banned account. Mostly because we've come to know the mannerisms of different forumites. In addition, while people with "Money" may come with laws, there's still huge amounts of transactions going on in the internet as it is. There's no trolls stopping them or stealing thier cash, just though on E-Bay there are some people who use fraud, but even some used car dealers use fraud. Being in person with laws doesn't help you much.
Secondly is pay for membership. While it may not drive away adult members or some members who make cash, at the same time, it shows favoritism to those with money to spare which some of us don't after building our computer. I really doubt I'd have joined my forum a while back if it had charged. Even if I did join as a troll that grew up into a contributing member. Mostly because I was confused what the site was about.
More of a case of "Lurk Moar!" then anything else.
There have been so good comments made by a lot of people (and the usual trash) so I won't try to rehash anything explicitly, but I think that some people are looking at some of the censorship ideas the wrong way. I think Wikipedia is a great example.
Wikipedia is open for anyone to comment, correct or add to. However, because there is a process for eliminating some of the s**t that is thrown at the wall, what ends up sticking is one hell of a product , if there wasn't a filter I promise that a lot of us here would have failed a number of papers by now. What has been left, however, is an extremely useful utility that is representative of what the internet can be, the collected knowledge of experts, college professors and professionals all one keyword search away.
I know some of you are thinking that Wikipedia is for fact and opinion boards are opinions so that it is a useless analogy, but in my eyes the principles are the same. If a privately owned site (keep that in mind all of you 1st amendment invokers, quit being so dramatic) decides that it wants to create a certain atmosphere within its forums whether it be stricter to facilitate thoughtful conversation or looser for those who need a 4chan outlet, then it has every right to use anything in its power to do so.
I entirely agree that plenty of us out there avoid forums entirely because it sucks to be immediately s**t on without cause. The internet, Youtube, and even this site are all about user-generated content. Nothing stymies opening yourself up to criticism like that as much as a troll saying that that girl who made a video on youtube is a fat b***h because she’s got a few pounds on her or that an article that may not be all that amusing but may certainly be funnier than what the troll could write (as he empirically speaking unable to write a full sentence) is cause for the author to end their own life. Eventually, we all may get burned, and just stop contributing content. (*cough*HateByNumbers*cough*)
While I agree destroying anonymity would backfire entirely, moderation and some of these other ideas are not censorship, are not fascist or any other buzz word that is floating around there. It is just the owners of the a private club, or forum if you will, setting the rules of conduct.
For the record, even though I avoid most comment boards I bothered to register just to comment on this. Sorry this was so long.
Wicked article. I also agree with kiwusek in that harmless jokes could be miscontrued. For example, while browsing the forums earlier, I came across (in one of the photoshop contests) a picture of Santa with a massive dong, and a kid next to him. It said something like "now your kid can sit on Santa's lap everyday", and while we go "oh christ that's horrible!", we still laugh, because we know it was for shock factor, and that's what amuses us. But if there was a regulation, that poster could get in serious trouble for it.
I agree with what some have already mentioned about the safety issues that result from government laws that force internet users to reveal their identity. I'd rather have to skip over a few annoying blog posts than help hackers and stalkers find people even more easily. They always find a way to turn something intended for good into a tool to help themselves.
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honestly, stopping trolls is good, but what about sites like 4chan and imagechan? the whole point is to have fun being rude. for that reason, i think moderators are the way to go. different sites can decide whom they want to attract.
I also disagree a ton. You're right: the internet is virtually the only place one can get away with this - That's what makes it Awesome. Taking that away feels like taking away free speech or something (internet legislation? what?). I like the internet just the way it is.
I disagree with this on so many levels I don't even know where to begin.
Come for the humor, stay for the Orwellianism. Anything but legislation!
kiwusek, your comment is spot on. While trolling is a real problem, it is often the result of "f******d" policies put in place by "fartwhales" with too much time and power in their hands.
Why do we have guys who troll for prostitutes both male and female, as well as for trannys is because we won't legalize and regulate prostitution in a rational, common sense-oriented manner. Because most sites refuse to regulate posters in a such way they get the "assheads" who want to post their harassment for "f**k's sakes".
The problem that I have with the last one is that though it may decrease illegal activity on the internet such as trolling and child pornography it adds surveillance powers to government. Something you say that can be misconstrued from your intentions on a political debate can land you in deep trouble with the terrorist laws in place. Piracy is in reality a result of DRM stupidity and as long as DRM will continue to attack the consumer they will go over to piracy and hit the company where it hurts. As I see it piracy is what will allow us to keep companies at bay with their policies.
And returning to the surveillance thing why should I, as a citizen, have to be subjected to surveillance by people that are supposed to serve the citizens?
when is the world gonna realize the source of its problems, and shut down the internet? i would buy a cracked newspaper
Thank you, Pops. I applaud you for not merely rising above "asshat", but for also rising above "apathy" and "mild distress" into "intelligent thought, non-stimulus response".
-A. Speakman
Although I do realize it would possibly be not even remotely funny, even though I'm sure you guys could find a way to make it just that, you did not mention one possibility. That is advertising and promoting awareness about the "dangers", if you will, of the internet. There was an ad campaign in Iceland focusing on that your actions on the internet have an effect in real life and it really raised awareness. Otherwise a really good article and I just had to register and comment since there was so much talk about commenting in this article. Also I think this comment might benefit me in the English exam I am taking in a couple of days
Another superb, prescient, well-written article by Mr. Wong, in a respectible line of equally thought-provoking contributions including "7 Reasons the 21st Century is Making You Miserable" and "What is the Monkeysphere?" All by himself, his contributions up the level of discourse here a full three notches.
By way of useful analogy, only very tiny tracts of what we now call "the Wild West" were at all wild. Most of frontier sodbusters and shopkeepers of the 1870s were Civil War veterans, who had long arms and knew how to use them. Ever wonder why, in "the Wild West," every saloon and whorehouse was right across the street from two other saloons and a whorehouse? Because the townsfolk insisted in keeping the little ghetto of sin and gunplay strictly confined to one tightly controlled zone where the sheriff could keep an eye on it all. Get drunk and ride down some other street whooping and firing your revolver at 3 a.m. and the locals would cheerfully blow your ass to kingdom come!
What's the answer to, "A man sees an empty room and says, 'Well, nobody here, guess I can flip out my dong.'?" Voracious, c**k-gobbling veliociraptors!
And, as Dave says, absent some control now, that will be the control later!
*cry* But I don't WANNA be a loser in a hat! I like my internet, even with stupid trolls!
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They really are all out to get you.
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