Batman Vs. Superman
[IN PROCESS] Batman is better than Superman. If you don't think so, you're a retard, a rapist, or Martha Kent. Or all three. The following is an evaluative comparison of the reasons why.
Just The Facts
- Batman is a skilled practitioner of jujutsu and a seasoned veteran of ninjutsu.
- Superman knows how to punch.
- The Dark Knight's secondary export is fear. His primary? Balls. Batballs.
- The Man of Steel once sexed the Green Lantern. With his penis. Of steel.
- The Caped Crusader's alter ego is worth multi-billions of dollars.
- The Last Son of Krpyton's alter ego is worth $3.88.
Multi-Billionaire Businessman vs. News Reporter
This is a simple matter of professional success. Being a superhero is absolutely no excuse for failing at the more unsuper aspects of life. Certainly the dual life of a professional crime fighter is huge amounts of difficult; no one is contesting that fact. It demands quite a lot from the not so super identity of the hero. How do you go about balancing your super life with your mundane one?
You've got to thaw out most of West 33rd Street because of the menstrul Mr. Freeze, and maybe carve out some time to attend the Wayne Enterprises Board of Directors meeting where they'll be deciding which Japanese computing firm to partner with, but hasn't the Batmobile been making an awful rattling sound when you hit the jet booster, and isn't it Alfred's birthday, and my God, you've forgotten to pick up another batch of Depends since God knows Alfred can't drive himself anymore and he's probably deuced himself all over the manor by now.

Look at him. He knows what he did.
There's a lot on the proverbial plate. We know.
We're not saying Clark Kent doesn't have just as much super responsibility to juggle. We're saying that, while we understand that it's hard to be a hero and still find time to put in 40 a week, Bruce Wayne can do it. Even Peter freaking Parker, a twenty-something, by and large a genetically predisposed irresponsible creature, finds time to attend college, be a photographer, and sling webs of saving grace. So this should be no problem for Clark Kent, right? At least he's pulling down a six figure annual . . . right?
Bruce Wayne
Gotham's playboy is worth a Forbes estimated $6.5 billion. For your comparison pleasures, here's a real-life stack up if that pesky "fictional" thing wasn't getting in Mr. Wayne's way:
Steve Jobs, the Apple technology tycoon and anti-Christ candidate, is worth about $5.5 billion. George Lucas, the only man to ever create something as beloved as Star Wars only to hump the franchise to death a few decades later, is worth $3.0 (also billion). Even Oprah couldn't amount to Wayne's fiscal success with her silly little net worth of $2.5 billion. How about Donald Trump? He sure acts like he has a frickton of money. And you just can't sport "hair" like that long-dead adolescent emu fetus he wears on his scalp without having more money than Ms. Winfrey, the profiteering reincarnation of Mother Teresa. So he's got to have an anus-load, right? Sorry, Donny. Not as much as Bruce Wayne would if he wasn't fictional. Trump weighs in at a paltry $2 billion.

Whatever is sleeping on this head will be the undoing of all that is holy.
Bruce Wayne's company has been around for about four centuries. It's army of branches and subsidiaries provide a constant stream of revenue for Wayne to parlay into bigger, better, and more importantly, never-ending batgadgets.
Granted, Wayne inherited this business from his parents, and granted Bruce didn't build this corporate monster himself from the ground up, but as our beloved David Wong recently said, that doesn't much matter. Bruce knew the right people (his parents), is one of the hardest working men in Comicbookland (you have to be when you're one of the few superheros without any real superpowers), and has talent to spare, running his father's legacy with deft business acumen and surprisingly adept corporate insight while moonlighting as the bane of Gotham's unsavory types.
Clark Kent
In the United States, the average news journalist rakes in about $35,000 a year. The high end of that average--meaning best case scenario in a thriving newspaper--is $45,000. TV journalists like Diane Sawyer, Katie Couric, and Barbara Walters don't count in this equation. They make more than the highest paid run-of-the-mill journalist in America because you, the people, trust them.

We'd trust that. We'd trust that all night.
Reportedly, the New York Times might pay it's highest most cornery of offices $85,000 annually, which is fantastic for all us poor, publicly unknown people, but we're not a household name superhero in a red cape being compared to another household name superhero in a less red cape.
The best case scenario for a typical news journalist is $85,000 a year at the New York Times. Remember, that's in New York frickin city where rent for an apartment you share with a family of pissed opossums, six schnauer-sized cockroaches, and a wondering nomad named King Whiskeypants is about $2,200 clams, give or take.
But what about Metropolis? The comics portray the city as one of the wealthiest and most successful cities in the world. It's been compared economically to New York, Vancouver, Chicago, and other cities worth mentioning should one take the time to mention them. So, if New York City = Metropolis, the New York Times = The Daily Planet. Which means we can assume (benefit of the doubt in huge effect here) that Kal El makes, at most, $85,000 a year. Good for him. Wanna know how many years it would take Kent to reach Wayne's networth? We'll give you a hint. It's bigger than ten and also bigger than thirty.
Using math, it has been determined that it would take Clark Kent about 70,588 and a half years to match Bruce Wayne's networth. That's providing the greasy-haired flying panzy doesn't spend a single dime of his earnings and also taxes are not taken from his checks for some reason. Sorry Supes. You suck again.

Sad super panda.






Obviously Superman is more powerful. That's not really what it's about. Batman is a better CHARACTER, who has more depth and complexity than Superman. It's not hard for Superman to be virtuous, because he's an almost-invincible demigod. It's harder for Batman, who lost his parents to a murderer, who can be killed, and who gets his hands dirty battling criminals every single night.
ReplyThis is only defending his money. FACT: Superman can save more people at a time than Batman. Look at Metropolis & Gotham. Crimes don't happen in metropolis because everyone is scared shitless of what Superman can do. Despite Batman, with his "batballs" and all, Gotham still has the worst crime rate in the DC Universe. Do you want to know why? BECAUSE HE ISN'T SUPERMAN. Gotham has WAY more superheroes than Metropolis does, and it still sucks, and Metropolis wasn't perfect before Superman got there.
ReplyBatman depends on his money to buy his toys so when he goes broke he wont do shit. Superman is super strong can fly and shoot lasers from his eyes and batman can . . . . run a company if u think thats super. Batman plays superhero but i think he should let the real heroes take care of gotham.
Reply"The Man of Steel once sexed the Green Lantern. With his penis. Of steel."
ReplyPictures, or it didn't happen.
Better at what? Giving the author erections? Ha, ha...ha, ugh.
ReplyThis isn't Superman Vs. Batman...it's Bruce Wayne Vs. Clark Kent, a very different comparison.
Replysuperman is WAY better than batman. who needs money when you can fly? or when you have super speed, super strength, heat vision, xray vision, super hearing, wind breath, and bullet-proof skin?
ReplyBatman could hack away at superman, but superman would knock him out with a knock to the head
Kryptonite. Ring.
Superman is ALL GOOD. He can't kill, the can't lie, he has higher moral standards. Batman will lie and kill if necessary to achieve his goal, which is justice. So Batman has equal parts GOOD and EVIL, while Superman only have ONE of those. That makes Batman twice the man Superman can ever be.
ReplyActually sir Batman will never kill. Sure he has no problems breaking a few bones but killing is a strict no-no. This particular moral standard always finds him at cross roads with Ra's Al Ghul, who wants Bats to kill him so that Bruce can take over the League of Assassins and marry his daughter. Also it's why the Joker is still out and about. We are talking about a man who has made it his lifes goal to torment his bat-ness until one kills the other. Batman won't ever kill the clown and in turn The Joker has never been able to successfully.
As for the lying they both do there fair share of lying to protect their secrets but I can't think of a time when they used it specifically to achieve a goal. Pre-crisis maybe but the exponentially better Post-Crisis versions don't really need to lie to get what they want do they? Who is going to deny information or access to anything to America's greatest hero who can, and conversely has, go completely nuts and rip you someone like a sheet of toilet paper? the same goes for the near invisible and skilled investigator that is the Bat. He will use fear and pain to get what he wants, no questions asked. If the Bat wants something done you can bet it will get done.
As a side note I am willing to bet Supes has killed more people in his crazy fits of nuts than Batman ever has.
Batman's a genius with access to billions of dollars worth of machines,tools,weapons,not to mention kryptonite.All he'd have to do is fashion some kryptonite into a bullet or a batarang or something to that effect.He'd win,hands down.He is that bad---.
Replykryptonite batsuit...
yes.
Other cracked articles pointed out how broke batman would be already. Supes has superior speed, strength, range and durability. Light speed + the strength to break someones neck = win.
comics-batman
Replymovies-batman(only because superman returns sucks balls)
fight-batman(Im sure he has kryptonite in his utility belt)
games-batman
villains-batman(fucking joker)
literally f*****g everything-batman
Yeah, he keeps a kryptonite ring in the belt.
Basically, Batman is better because he got a gritty reboot and is paranoid. He beat Superman in some comic, so he's "better".
Reply Hide All See All 3 RepliesSuperman can blow out the sun, though. He chooses otherwise.
This is really, secretly, a theology debate. Superman is god. He is the impossible, unfathomable power. His true tests are saving the planet from apocalypse scenarios, not Lex Luthor. No matter how many times Superman is beaten by kryptonite he never dies and is truly only weakened. The only time he actually died was when he was physically beaten to death. It is no surprise that another oft forgotten weakness is magic. Superman is a magical being from outer space. Is this really so different from an omnipotent god from heaven?
Alternatively, Batman is merely implausible, not impossible. He is everything good about mankind. The worlds greatest detective relying on equal parts high powered tools, physical prowess, and superb intellect, he is the embodiment of perfect humanity. He even has a built excuse for his personality flaws in his murdered parents. It is easy to understand his popularity. However implausible it is a story, it's not outside the realm of possibilities.
It's a tool wielding human vs the magical deity. It's evolution vs intelligent design. It's science vs magic. It's math vs faith. It's Prometheus advancing mankind vs Jesus simply saving it. This is why there is a debate over the two. Both heroes appeal to very different sensibilities in us. Do I keep my fantasies rooted in some form of reality and logic? "Batman wins because of Science" And then list everything in his utility belt? Every answer makes sense because, largely, Batman is a man facing the problems of men. Or should I allow my fantasies to truly fly? "Superman wins because of Magic" And list the super everything? Superman is a god facing the apocalypse of his flock.
It doesn't matter who would or has already won. Superman only dies a gods death. This cannot come from Batman.
Even though I disagree, I must admit that this was incredibly well-put.
Batman didn't get a "gritty reboot". Batman was gritty from the beginning. From the early comics Batman was dark and sinister. Early Superman was a guy flying around on colorful underwear while Early Batman didn't hesitate about blowing criminal's heads with a .45.
Damn, just....damn.
I love Superman and Batman equally. Why can't we all just get along.
ReplyBlasphemy, my kind will never accept the likes of that damn Kyptonian.
Why you make Superman and Batman fight? They good allies and friends.
Reply Hide All See All 3 RepliesWhy the hell am I talking like that?
Because you temporarily took the Hulk's voice?But not him entirely because he's Marvel and this is a DC article and he'd be attacked by rabid DC fanboys.
Oh yeah,also,Batman.The answer is Batman.
Batman and Superman fought in "Dark Knight" (the comic, not the movie) and Batman kicked the living crap out Superman. Of course, Batman was wearing a special suit that concentrated all the electricity of the whole Gotham City power grid into his arms... but that only shows who is the smarter guy of them two.
Pavel: plot armor doesn't count. The fact is, Superman has done s**t like move galaxies and fly much faster than light to go into another universe because him sneezing would destroy this one.
The comments of the bat-fans vs the supes-fan are quite interesting...I spent more time reading the comments than I did the article...For the record, even though Superman should win against Batman, till date, he never has...Batman always wins...
ReplyBut Superman doesn't really eed his job at the Planet. Wth his powers he could get to diamonds, gold and other valuable resources humans can't get to. He's only at the Planet to get a heads up when troubles brewing. Besides, if Supes wanted to take out Bats he can heat vision him from orbit.
ReplyWhat surprises me is the fact that at one point, Batman totally kicked Superman's ass in the middle of nuclear winter while having a heart attack... Oh and the nuclear winter was caused by Superman, and the whole world was fucked except Gotham City because Bruce is a rich ass super pimp that made it so safe, so the US Government ordered Superman to go in and take him out... yeah, exactly. That ALONE is enough to end the debate.
Reply Hide All See All 4 RepliesYou're not giving the whole story behind that scenario from Dark Knight Returns. The heart attack was self-induced with a capsule, meant to fake his death. Beforehand, Batman had time to plan, and stake out a location. He had surface to air missiles, Robin shooting crap at Clark with the Batmobile,a sonic wave emitter, a freaking robot suit, and kryptonite. Not to mention Superman had just been hit by a full-blown nuclear warhead. So no, I don't think that's a valid example. Yes, Batman is badass. Yes, he can defeat most any normal human enemy. But a rich guy in funny pajamas with NO POWERS will never pose a real threat to anyone with significant super abilities, especially an A-list guy like Superman.
Evan, go read the Tower of Babel storyline from the JLA comics. True, it wasn't exactly Batman taking down the entire f*****g Justice League, but they were his plans. He knows the weaknesses of everyone who might possibly pose the slightest threat and how to exploit them. Batman knows how to take down every single superhero and probably every known supervillain out there and has the resources to do it. He's not just a "rich guy in funny pajamas with no powers." He's a tactical genius. Which makes him the most terrifying, powerful man on the planet.
psychomunkey719, that's damn right. He's Batman, and he's kicked Superman's ass on multiple occasions...
@psychomunky: you're right, I'd forgotten about that example. Batman is a tactical genius: if there's a method or weakness in taking a stronger opponent down, he'll probably figure it out. He's probably the best there ever was or will be in terms of a mortal going up against super powered beings. I guess I was kind of focusing in on specifically Superman: at his core, he is nearly unbeatable (although I guess now they've given him a weakness to magic). And yes, Batman is well aware of how to take him down, when given time to plan and prepare. But the kryptonite thing kind of takes away the impressiveness of the feat to me, in that anyone else with knowledge of and ability to obtain Superman's weakness would also have a fair chance against him. I'm surprised no villain, maybe Lex, has ever thought to simply publish superman's weakness to the public: you would have swarms of terrorists or opposing governments scrambling to get kryptonite, Superman would always have to be on guard that a baddie he takes down might have some in reserve.
Cracked's pro-Batman/anti-Superman agenda has been known for quite some time.
ReplySuperman is the lamest superhero, the random clusterfuck of powers he gets with the explanation "he's an alien" is just bad comic book writing, he is less lame than he used to be, but it has taken him decades to become interesting in the least. Batman's story started out interesting, and aged like a fine wine. Also, Batman has kicked Superman's ass before (with help, but come on, the whole "not being a super alien" thing is kind of a handicap) and he could do it again.
Reply"he's an alien" is no worse than most comic book explanations for having powers
he was the very first at what he did. so he gets a free pass at everything, if he wants to have a power to to able to make mountains sing the chocolate rain song then dammit he will get that power.
Why is this about money? Superman, if so inclined, could throw batman literally out of orbit. If you're going to use money as the basis for a batman argument, It should be to ask why the hell he doesn't use any of it to clean up the streets of gotham??? Billions can go a long way towards ending crime and hunger... Doesn't seem like batman cares unless his flashy alterego is all over it. Superman lives a life of humble discredit. The only reason Bruce Wayne even has a secret identity is to keep from being arrested for his crimes against law enforcement.
Reply Hide All See All 7 RepliesObviously batman is the cooler hero because he isn't truly super at all. He's rich, and knows karate. But supermans cause is far more noble. He could make Earth his bitch. He could decide "Hey, you know, I should be president" and who's gonna stop him? Batman would try, but not a gadget or bank account in the world is going to stop a superhuman alien man.
So as far as which one is the bigger hero, you're comparing an immortal alien who decides to help humanity rather than crushing them simply because he was raised by humans; To a super rich billionaire who choses to help people SOME by dressing up in rubber and living out his violence fetishes instead of creating a charity to feed the impoverished who turn to a life of working as a thug under a villain to support the expense of life in a city who's economy is hinged on the success of one man.
Batman is the 1% and Superman is the 99%. One is a spoiled rich kid, the other grew up on a farm. Who's going to have the clearer moral compass here?
Batman has kryptonite in a lead lined pouch of his utility belt. He could kick superman's ass any day of the week if he wanted to.
And Superman could crush his head, reform it and crush it again in the time he reaches for his belt.
Bruce DOES use his money to help Gotham! He uses his business to attract new companies and his money to re-open old companies to create new job opportunities. He is constantly donating to charities, he funded a new hospital, donates to the police force, and even though it caused the crime lords to place a hit on him Bruce funded the reconstruction of Gotham (a program that is replacing condemned buildings and renovating historical landmarks or Gotham). He does all of this as Bruce Wayne and still manages to fight crime in Gotham as Batman and save the rest of the Justice League when they screw up. As for moral compass, Superman let an entire town die just to save Lois Lane.
Bruce beat up Superman in the middle of a nuclear winter that Superman himself caused, and the reason they fought was Bruce, using his genius and money, made Gotham the safest place ever and the US was so embarrassed that they ordered Superman to go kill him. Also Bruce did this when he was in his 60s, and while having a heart attack, which was preceded by another heart attack as he was leaving to go fight Superman...
Batman has used his billions to clean the streets of gotham and of the world in fact, "Batman Inc." created by Grant Morrison protrayed the possibility of training Batmans in various countries who needed something like a caped crusader, and yes, I do acknowledge that Superman has saved the world as a whole more times than Batman but Bats is leaving a legacy of people who are going to follow what he did, even his successors such as Nightwing or Red Robin are proof of that, and now with the Batman Inc troupe he has created the foundatiosn of a legacy in which the Batman persona will be used to fight against crime.
And he could not possibly have done that without his money.
@distortionfile This is the best reasoning I've read so far. .Fuck yeah!
Superman can move faster than a bullet. Can batman move his hand to his belt faster than a bullet too?
being superman is like playing god mode in skyrim.
Reply Hide All See All 3 RepliesHe was in god mode until he took a arrow to the the knee...then he...well he said f**k it I'm Superman and an arrow to the knee ain't gonna do shit....
And then Lex Luthor started making kryptonite arrows...
The Green Arrow beat him to it. (The Dark Knight Returns)