Communism
The funtabulous side of Communism!
Just The Facts
- Communism is the ideal that if everyone cant be rich and successful no one can (Sort of like the "Everyone Wins!" policy used during Tee Ball games with five year olds. Do you think that will work? Ever? Nope. We all know there's going to be one asshole who decides hes better than everyone else.)
- The first time Communism was put into practice on a large scale was Russia in 1917. Their country was in such shitty condition they decided to use Communism to make things better (Thats like using shit to get rid of the smell of worse smelling shit). The Bolsheviks (Russian Communists) promised chan
- Today there are still countries that are Communist such as China and Cuba. Russia finally catching on that communism sucks, became a democracy and is now much better off. (FUCK YEAH!!!)
Why Would anyone want to do this shit!?!
On paper Communism is a very good idea. A state where everyone is equal and their is no man to control them, everyone works for the good of society. What's so bad about that? Unfortunately, due to a little something called human fucking nature, it's impossible for all of us to get along and work for the greater good. Some asshole is going to come along and think he's better than everyone else (as stated earlier) and fuck everything everyone worked hard on for his own good.
Successful Communist Countries!?! Impossible!?!
To date there is really only one truly successful Communist country and that is China. China became successful because instead of being a pure Communist state, they allowed buisnesses to start up and capitalism to thrive among its communism. (See! They got the picture.) Ofcourse people in China don't have all their rights and have an oppressive government but, they make a shitload of money making crap to sell to us so it's all good.
Three men to make one frisbee. Thanks China!
Communism without a dictator (especially anarcho-communism) would be f*****g great, way better than a system run on greed (capitalism). Who gives a s**t if it hasn't been done before? Can humans not change? Cause if we can't, well we're f*****g doomed because the system as is is already f*****g terrible, and we're raping the earth, destroying ourselves, other species too...
Replyit has been done before,(Catalonia, Ukraine, Chiapas) and yes, it did work
all these communists fucks bitching in the comments should go visit north korea.
Replytrue, but north korea is more fascist than communist
You're an idiot. First of all, Communism actually created a modern Russia. Second of all, Russia is no better off under "democracy" then they were under communism, the whole country is just one giant kleptocracy, which is the whole reason so many Russians think the old way was better. Third of all, China is more hardcore capitalist then AMERICA. The government loosely 'controls' the corporations in China (Either that or corporations are actually the ones that own the government ala plutocracy) meanwhile said corporations do whatever they f**k they want at the expense of the people. (A perfect example of what the GOP wants to make America).
ReplyThe only difference is that China is authoritarian.
In short, you don't know what the f**k you're talking about.
china slowly changed after the absorption of hong kong. Now the country is somewhat of a technocracy.
I assume you're going to catch the first flight to Cuba then.
Communism doesn't equal tyranny, and capitalism doesn't equal freedom, but communist dictatorships are worse than their capitalist equivalents, as the nature if centralised wealth means
Reply Hide All See All 5 Repliesmore power for psychopathic dictatoships,
If you were a Jew or gay etc. in Hitler's Germany you had a hard time, but if you were 'Aryan' you could have a good enough life. In Stalin's USSR anyone could become an enemy of the state at any time- saboteurs could be anyone, but not just anyone could suddenly be Jewish.
In Chile, Pinochet's ultra-capitalist dictatoship was much less vicious than that of the communists before him. Executions were quite rare, and the country enjoyed record economic growth of around 10%.
Pol Pot's communist rule was much more brutal than the capitalist prince he replaced. Pot's regime was the most extreme form of communism ever implemented, and is also the proportionately most violent (killing 25% of Cambodia in 3 years). It was so violent it self-destructed with an against-all-odds war against Vietnam (who incidentally, have now also gone like China and allowed business, successfully).
Also, communist dictatoships bent truth in a way no others did. There is a quote that both capitalism and communism kick you in the ass, but whereas capitalism lets you scream, communism makes you thank them
for it. The contant focus on ideology and the constant suspicion make it qualititatively worse under communism, while the statistics show significantly higher proportionate death rates and imprisonment rates.
Not all communism is totalitarian, just all the most famous examples.
^^^And the others too.
"Executions were quite rare"? Who told you that?
"In Chile, Pinochet's ultra-capitalist dictatoship was much less vicious than that of the communists before him."
Are you f*****g kidding?
"In Chile, Pinochet's ultra-capitalist dictatoship was much less vicious than that of the communists before him. Executions were quite rare, and the country enjoyed record economic growth of around 10%."
That is a disqusting statement, and its revisionist. First of all, Pinochets reign of terror made over 1 million chileeans flee their country. Second, the Pinochet regime tortured around 40 000 people and killed 20-30 000 (the estimates vary). The (apparently more vicious) Allende regime (the "Communists" that preceded Pinochet), was in reality a democratilly elected government (composed of multiple parties, including the Communist Party as well as the Christian left and the Social Democratic party ++), and upheld - to my knowledge - the liberal democratic principles you claim to know and love. Pinochet established his power by a military coup against that democratically elected (but socialist) government. Apparently, according to both Pinochet and you, the end justifies the means. You glorifying Pinochet is embarassing and disqusting.
I - as a communist - acknowledge the brutalities commited in the name of that ideology, and condemn all of them (Stalin, Pol-Pot and all the rest of the villains). You on the other hand revise history in order to defend right-wing ideology. Thus you are the anti democratic one, not I.
I agree completely with lulzrat's statement that capitalism does not equal freedom. We have to remember that Communism isn't responsible for human rights violations and totalitarianism, that is an abuse of power taken by political leaders that makes them no better than whatever they condemn. But Democracy and capitalism have relatively zero connection. I agree that total communism is impractical in our world, but so is total capitalism. The United States and just about all other countries that are considered "capitalist" are actually mixed market economies. When businesses get too much power we see things like the Great Depression and the credit crises of today, it's a balance of power, because then we cry that the federal government isn't doing anything.
ReplyI meant to say capitalism ≠ equal freedom.
ReplyPS: Russia is a semipresidential republic, NOT a democracy.
Fuck. There's a difference between "comical exaggeration" and "McCarthyesque demonization".
Reply1. The "new Russia" is kind of shit. USSR wasn't better, but it's hardly the win you treat it as.
2. Capitalism=freedom, Islamic monarchy, apartheid-era SA, and Singapore are all capitalist.
3. Communism isn't against individual gain or wealth in principle.
4. This isn't Conservapedia.
5. CORRELATION DOES NOT f*****g IMPLY CAUSATION!
Good day sir!
I'm gonna have to disagree with you on a few points. A) If conservapedia was a political joke, it wasn't very tasteful. Liberals can also agree that communism was terrible. B) Communism was against personal gain and wealth. If you read Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto, he states it quite clearly. All personal property is abolished. If there is no such thing as property, there is no such thing as personal value (which we judge wealth by), therefore communism abolishes wealth. Just one people working for a utopia. Anything else is merely socialism.
Replying to McGrath: No, actually what Marx states in the Manifesto is precicely the opposite. And i quote: "Communism deprives no man of the power to appropriate the products of society; all that it does is to deprive him of the power to subjugate the labour of others by means of such appropriations." (Communist Manifesto, chapter 2)
If you want to refer to the ol' Manifesto, i suggest reading it.
You can't actually HAVE a communist government because a communist society is stateless. Oh, and the reason for all the cheap labor everywhere in the world is due the the free market MUCH more than any sort of "communism". The only reason the United States functions so well as a capitalist state is because we bleed all of the other ones dry.
ReplyWow, this is both horribly written and unfunny. It relies on unfunny memes and lack of understanding to try and be funny. Sure, communism failed and gone very badly in the past, but it deserves a better article than this. I mean com'on, it doesn't even make a IN SOVIET RUSSIA joke.
ReplyI SO agree with this article.
ReplyHuman nature doomed communism before it was even invented.
I SO agree with this article.
ReplyHuman nature doomed communism before it was even invented.
So you're more akin to the ideology that the already wealthy and lucky should benefit off of all of the lower working class who can barely pay to put food on the table for their families? It's okay for Walmart and McDonalds to dictate terms on their workers and continue to control a chunk of the economy? Capitalism is far from being the best economy. I encourage you to research the botched market reforms of Africa and India, and as well Pincochet's Chile, Suharto's Indonesia, Apartheid South Africa, and Argentina during "The Dirty War." As a Capitalist, how about you take responsibility for causing more deaths and famine far higher in numbers than those who died under Communist experiments.
ReplyRussia wasn't the first implementation of "communism (Never was but an advanced form of Socialism.) Throughout ancient history, there were numerous examples of tribal communism and theocratic communism in the biblical times..
But yeah, Communism hasn't had any success at all. Let's consider
Tsarist Russia loses World War I. Communist Russia wins World War II. Nationalist China gives in to foreign powers. Communist China overthrows foreign powers. Nationalist Cuba gives in to U.S. intervention. Communist Cuba resists U.S. intervention.
And honestly, China isn't "capitalist", the main reason being is that the made Hongkong from strict socialist to free-market socialist. The state's occupation as landlord partially explains the low ratio of state spending to GDP. If the cost of the subsidised housing land were accounted for at market prices in the government budget, that ratio would soar notably higher. Take government-provided services at their usual market prices into account and the low share of government spending in the GDP climbs sharply.
Another notable factor is that the state subsidises Hong Kong's education, health care, welfare, and charity. They also have a public transportation system in which the government has substantial equity in and grants franchises and monopolized routes. So they operate three railways and regulate transport services as monopoly franchises as well as ... Read Moreimpose rent controls since being the monopoly owner of land and the largest landlord. To prevent a general bank run in the 80s, they also took full control of ownership and management of several banks as well.
Oh, and uh, plus they are the importer/exporter for their whole fuggin' country, allowing them to place mark-up on any goods that pass through. Any city that is the entrepot city of their country is going to have good economical statistics regardless.
You might want to get your facts straight next time..
On the topic of monkeys in suits....there was the whole thing with China blinding following Russia's policies, even after they had FAILED in Russia. Monkey see, monkey do, other monkeys starve.
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