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« Reply #40 on: November 05, 2009, 06:16 AM »

It seems that you have to go via the windows taskbar for everything. I found two ways to pin a folder there to mimic this kind of behaviour. You can make toolbars and then select things there (which is outlined here) or you can go the more difficult route of letting windows think a folder is a program and putting a nice icon on your taskbar (which is described here).
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« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2009, 03:28 AM »

I'm a little tired so I'm not going to make this post as detailed as it should be but,

I was trying to install 7 but I got stuck at a point where it was asking me for drivers, i'm not sure drivers for what though or how to get them. I'm on an HP laptop.

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« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2009, 05:13 AM »

It shouldn't ask you for drivers as part of the regular install.  There is a time during the install where you have the option of loading drivers for your hardware if you have specific drivers you'd like Windows 7 to load, but it should install default drivers for most everything.
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« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2009, 05:26 AM »

Specifically, the point at which you can load drivers is on a screen that says "Where do you want to install Windows?".  It shouldn't prompt you to load drivers unless you actually click Load Driver on this screen.
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« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2009, 11:22 AM »

Well, this has mostly gone ok for me. I've upgraded from XP to Windows 7 and everything has worked fine except for my sound. This seems to be a problem lots of people are having where after a couple of days every single audio device stops working.

I'm guessing its a lack of up to date drivers; using windows 7 to detect drivers doesn't seem to help as either they are behind the times or looking in the wrong place. I'm hoping a fix comes out for this shortly as nothing else has worked and I'm not keen to go back to windows xp until it is fixed.

A weird flaw when its been far better in just about every respect.

EDIT: Manual re-install of drivers from manufacturer's website fixed this; some of the Vista drivers worked for me.
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« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2009, 01:56 PM »

So i have been looking all over the place but no luck finding help with my problem. When I load the DVD before any installation begins it tells me that it can't find drivers for my DVD drive. It tells me to insert a device that has the drivers on them, it also give me the option to browse the computer, and also gives me the option to insert a new cd or dvd with the drivers.

So what I did was check the system information to see which driver it uses and then copied than on to an external hard drive but no luck again.

So I was trying to go from vista 32 bit to 7 64 bit, the update adviser said that it wouldn't be a problem other than having to do a custom installation. I might try upgrading to 7 32 bit instead and see if that works any better. I've been getting 7 free through msdnaa so price isn't a factor here.

But if you guys have any advice for me it is much appreciated. My lap top is a HP Pavillion dv6810us and the DVD drive is: TSST corp CDDCDW TS-L632N ATA Device
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« Reply #46 on: November 14, 2009, 03:29 PM »

Does it give you the option to copy the driver over from a USB stick? I.e. if you have a USB stick plugged in to your laptop, when it lets you browse for files are you able to view the USB drive?
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« Reply #47 on: November 14, 2009, 03:33 PM »

No, it only allows me to select folders within the usb drive.
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« Reply #48 on: November 14, 2009, 06:03 PM »

Try re-burning the Win 7 ISO using the lowest possible write speed.  I've read on a few forums (after doing some research) that this was one of the more common solutions for people having the same problem.
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« Reply #49 on: November 15, 2009, 02:41 PM »


So I was trying to go from vista 32 bit to 7 64 bit, the update adviser said that it wouldn't be a problem other than having to do a custom installation. I might try upgrading to 7 32 bit instead and see if that works any better. I've been getting 7 free through msdnaa so price isn't a factor here.


I was under the impression that this can't be done. Am I wrong here?
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« Reply #50 on: November 15, 2009, 03:15 PM »

My impression was that it is possible it just causes your drive to be completely wiped, which I was prepared for anyways. I do have a 64 bit machine so I do not understand why it won't work.
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« Reply #51 on: November 15, 2009, 06:03 PM »

Thanks for all the help everyone, I got it up and going in 32 bit.

This new taskbar is something eh?
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« Reply #52 on: November 15, 2009, 06:21 PM »

It most certailny is.

Speaking of bits, is anyone aware whether switching from 32 bit 7 to 64 bit requires a primary partition wipe? I run 32 bit Ultimate currently but I'd like to switch to 64 bit Pro, unless I can get my hands on 64 Ultimate through MSDNAA.
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« Reply #53 on: November 15, 2009, 08:23 PM »

I can say with relative certainty that it'd require a format.

EDIT: It does.

Can I upgrade from a 32-bit version of Windows to a 64-bit version of Windows?

No. If you are currently running a 32-bit version of Windows, you can only perform an upgrade to another 32-bit version of Windows. Similarly, if you are running a 64-bit version of Windows Vista, you can only perform an upgrade to another 64-bit version of Windows Vista.

It then goes on to say that if you wanted to upgrade from 32 to 64-bit you'd have to backup your files and do a custom installation (format your hard drive).  Note that this is for Vista but I highly doubt that it's changed for Windows 7 considering how similar they are.
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« Reply #54 on: November 16, 2009, 12:28 AM »

My impression was that it is possible it just causes your drive to be completely wiped, which I was prepared for anyways. I do have a 64 bit machine so I do not understand why it won't work.

Ah. I thought you were talking about upgrading while keeping all your old files and settings, not just starting from scratch on your old computer.
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« Reply #55 on: November 16, 2009, 12:33 AM »

What does 64-bit do that 32-bit doesn't? Is it faster or something?
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« Reply #56 on: November 16, 2009, 01:31 AM »

The short answer: 64-bit operating systems are faster and more efficient than 32-bit systems, especially when working with large sets of data.

The long answer:

32-bit systems, regardless of OS, are subject to an addressing space limitation of 4 GB (32 1s in binary is equal to 4,294,967,295 bits, or 4 GB).  Basically this means that a 32-bit computer is limited to working with a maximum of 4 GB of data without resorting to using virtual memory.  It doesn't matter how fast your processor is, whether you're running Linux or Windows, or what kind of cooling you have.  If you're running a 32-bit OS, by definition, you're limited to 4 GB of RAM.

64-bit systems have an addressing space limitation of 16.8 million terabytes.  That's not a typo.  In reality, we're not even close to being able to work with that (physically) but 64-bit systems are able to address an absolute shitload* more memory, which makes them not only faster but much more capable of working with large sets of data.  As such, 64-bit systems are better at handling things like video processing, 3D rendering, huge databases etc.  Most gamers will tell you that a 64-bit OS is the best way to go if you want the absolute best performance.  Even simple stuff like watching movies will give you better, smoother playback in a 64-bit system.

There are some compatibility and other disadvantages but in general the benefits tend to outweigh them, for the type of person that needs the most processing power.

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« Reply #57 on: November 18, 2009, 07:58 PM »

Will Windows 7 recognize an old hard drive that used to be the boot drive of an XP machine?  My hard drive is dead and I used to run XP, the plan was to buy a new hard drive and use it as a fresh start to install Windows 7, then if Seagate can save my old hard drive (I sent it to them to see if they could do a firmware fix) put it as a secondary drive and get my stuff from it as needed.  Just wanted to make sure the filesystems were compatible and all that.

The interface is SATA if that matters.
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« Reply #58 on: November 18, 2009, 09:26 PM »

Yeah, it will work.  I think you may run into some permissions problems if you had folders set as private or you're trying to get into a folder like My Documents specifically owned by a user, but if I remember right there's also a way you can administratively override some of that stuff.
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« Reply #59 on: November 19, 2009, 03:07 AM »

I find the easiest way to get around the permission problems is to boot a Linux cd (like Ubuntu - downloadable for free here) that lets you run the system straight from the cd, and copy whatever files you need using that, since Linux doesn't give a shit about Windows' permissions.
Even if you've never used Linux, the graphical user interface is similar enough to Windows to figure out what's where.
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