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« on: October 04, 2009, 02:37 AM »
Wasn't worth making a new thread for, but JDATE got a bad review on some blog. For once the comment section is right.
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2009, 04:01 AM »
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What’s I find infuriating is that this David Wong guy isn’t even a real writer. He’s just jerk working in an office who decided to start scribbling without anyone’s permission. No MFA, no workshops, nothing. And then, of all things, he puts his “novel” on the Web where it found an audience through word of mouth breather.

In what may be the most unjust outcome in the history of publishing, the mere fact that people enjoyed his book lead to a print publication deal (two, actually) and a movie deal.

We need to look into creating some sort of licensing or credential-awarding program as in other professions. Otherwise, this is just going to keep happening with increasing frequency.

Hear that, Wong? Better get back to your cubicle where you belong.
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2009, 08:38 AM »
Well to be fair, the only people with stories worth telling have MFAs.

Also, hey, Barnes & Noble posted the entire Kirkus review in the Editorial Review section of the JDatE page.
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2009, 04:11 AM »
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Crude humor, in and of itself, isn’t necessarily a problem. It’s just that we’ve already seen Clerks and Clerks II, Baseketball, and, for that matter, the Evil Dead trilogy. What’s on the page here has been done before, and done a lot better, despite the novel’s plethora of pop-culture references including awful ‘80s bands like Night Ranger.

If you had asked me a few days ago, I might have listed "cheap rip off of basketball" as the least likely complaint anyone would have about jdate, ever. 
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2009, 10:07 AM »
So let's make this its own thread rather than have discussion of some anti-jdate blog dominate the reviews thread.
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2009, 10:10 AM »
Dave, why did you bother writing a book?  Books have been done before.  Pride and Prejudice, maybe you've heard of it?
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2009, 10:21 AM »
Crazy story: those two books are next to each other on my shelf.
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2009, 10:56 AM »
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What’s I find infuriating is that this David Wong guy isn’t even a real writer. He’s just jerk working in an office who decided to start scribbling without anyone’s permission. No MFA, no workshops, nothing. And then, of all things, he puts his “novel” on the Web where it found an audience through word of mouth breather.

In what may be the most unjust outcome in the history of publishing, the mere fact that people enjoyed his book lead to a print publication deal (two, actually) and a movie deal.

We need to look into creating some sort of licensing or credential-awarding program as in other professions. Otherwise, this is just going to keep happening with increasing frequency.

To be fair, I'm pretty damn sure this guy is kidding. I guess the best satire is that which is indistingishable from the reality. The "unjust outcome" line is dripping with sarcasm.
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2009, 12:22 PM »
That's the way I read it, too.  Sort of tongue in cheek, "The nerve of this guy, trying to live out a dream!  Leave it to the experts, you cubicle jockey!"

The "without anyone's permission" certainly seems to be loaded with sarcasm as well.
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2009, 01:43 PM »
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To be fair, I'm pretty damn sure this guy is kidding.

There is no way he was serious.

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In what may be the most unjust outcome in the history of publishing, the mere fact that people enjoyed his book lead to a print publication deal (two, actually) and a movie deal.

No-one could write that sentence and actually mean it.
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2009, 01:59 PM »

I think that review may have actually been written by Dr. Oxford.
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2009, 05:16 PM »
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To be fair, I'm pretty damn sure this guy is kidding.

There is no way he was serious.

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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2009, 05:47 PM »
Quote from: Switchblade on October 06, 2009, 01:59 PM
I think that review may have actually been written by Dr. Oxford.

That may be the case, and that comment probably was sarcasm, but he is still so wrong about those Hobbits and pillows.
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2009, 02:18 AM »
I don't think anyone didn't realise he was kidding. We're so quick to correct each other, it's like getting in a car with my family.
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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2009, 02:22 AM »
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Crude humor, in and of itself, isn’t necessarily a problem. It’s just that we’ve already seen Clerks and Clerks II, Baseketball, and, for that matter, the Evil Dead trilogy. What’s on the page here has been done before, and done a lot better, despite the novel’s plethora of pop-culture references including awful ‘80s bands like Night Ranger.

I would call a comparison to Evil Dead and Clerks a positive review.

Also, any time a new style comes into the culture you have to deal with a lot of naysayers like this. And writing an entire novel with your penis probably qualifies as a new style.
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« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2009, 12:38 PM »
Well at least the article writer is funny. Wrong, but funny.

Writing is for anyone. You don't need a degree, an education - you only need to put words together in a fairly coherent sentence with some punctuation dotted here there and everywhere and voila - a novel.

Look at S.M (yes I hate her books - hate hate hate) - her books are so bad they should be shoved in a woodchipper and like most bulimics, she should have her fingers chopped off so that she can never writer again.

However, if Wong thinks he can write a book, and people read and enjoy the book, then what's the frickin problem? Just because it's a book about dongs doesn't mean it shouldn't be read - look at the whole Mills and Boons line.

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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2009, 08:18 PM »
Bulimics aren't allowed to write?
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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2009, 08:45 PM »
Quote from: David Wong on October 06, 2009, 10:07 AM
So let's make this its own thread rather than have discussion of some anti-jdate blog dominate the reviews thread.

They gave you a simple Cubicle Sitter an imagination to write a fucking book?

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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2009, 10:19 PM »
Flopping like penises?
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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2009, 10:42 PM »
You're like that guy in the movie theater that repeats every funny line to the person next to him, but somehow worse.
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