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Question: What is the best rap album ever made?
"The Marshall Mathers LP" - Eminem
"Illmatic" - Nas
"Enter the Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers" - Wu-Tang Clan
"Liquid Swords" - GZA
"Blueprint" - Jay-Z
"BlackStar" - Mos Def and Talib Kweli
"The Low End Theory" - A Tribe Called Quest
"The Score" - The Fugees
"Straight Outta Compton" - N.W.A.
"Reasonable Doubt" - Jay-Z
"Doggystyle" - Snoop Doggy Dogg
"It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back" - Public Enemy

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« Reply #40 on: July 14, 2008, 01:04 PM »

Im not sure about being the best ever, but a fantastic newer hip hop album is "Angles" by Dan Le Sac Vs Scroobius Pip. Ridiculous (and admittedly awesome) name aside they made a great album, which I highly recommend checking out. Also anything by Saul Williams, Niggy Tardust a personal favourite :)
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« Reply #41 on: July 14, 2008, 01:24 PM »

Im not sure about being the best ever, but a fantastic newer hip hop album is "Angles" by Dan Le Sac Vs Scroobius Pip. Ridiculous (and admittedly awesome) name aside they made a great album, which I highly recommend checking out. Also anything by Saul Williams, Niggy Tardust a personal favourite :)

The only tracks I have are Thou Shalt Always Kill, The Beat That My Heart Skipped and Letter from God to Man. I've heard Look For The Woman too, all great. Scroob's poetry is tidy also.
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« Reply #42 on: July 14, 2008, 01:31 PM »

Im not sure about being the best ever, but a fantastic newer hip hop album is "Angles" by Dan Le Sac Vs Scroobius Pip. Ridiculous (and admittedly awesome) name aside they made a great album, which I highly recommend checking out. Also anything by Saul Williams, Niggy Tardust a personal favourite :)

The only tracks I have are Thou Shalt Always Kill, The Beat That My Heart Skipped and Letter from God to Man. I've heard Look For The Woman too, all great. Scroob's poetry is tidy also.

Yeah those are some of his best, if you liked those ones then check out Back From Hell aswell, tis really good.
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« Reply #43 on: July 30, 2008, 10:30 PM »

I haven't heard much old school rap but from what I've heard I'd say:

Jay-Z's Black Album
Talib Kweli's Eardrum
Nas's Untitled (haven't heard illmatic)
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« Reply #44 on: July 30, 2008, 11:53 PM »

While I think 'Straight Outta Compton' wins hands down, there's some pretty rad Australian Rap/Hip-hop albums that should be getting a much wider audience. In particular:

The Herd - An Elefant Never Forgets

I particularly love '77%' and 'Burn Down the Parliament', but the album itself is great. Also, my love of the Herd's cover of 'I was only 19' is well documented. Their new album 'Summerland', is also quite neat; I love 'The King is Dead'.

I also love the Hilltop Hoods The Hard Road Restrung featuring the Adelaide Symphony Orchestra. Next time someone tells you rap isn't real music, you have my permission to jam this album sideways, up their arse.
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« Reply #45 on: July 31, 2008, 06:23 AM »

^ Do not ignore this man's post if you havent heard those albums. If you have, then well free free to move on with your day.

To the quality albums already mentioned I'd like to add:

Dr. Dre - The Chronic
Non Phixion - The Future Is Now

And I want to say Kanye West - College Dropout, but the absurd amount of skits on it ruins it every time.
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« Reply #46 on: July 31, 2008, 07:03 AM »

I don't have much of a rap collection but these albums are always in rotation on my play list.

Amethyst Rock Star - Saul Williams

BlackStar - Mos Def & Talib Kweli

Quality - Talib Kweli

Black Album - Jay-Z

Cee-Lo Green Is the Soul Machine - Cee-Lo

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« Reply #47 on: July 31, 2008, 08:12 AM »

I might throw in a nomination for Hova's "The Blueprint". I think if we get enough seconds and thirds for albums I might just set this up as a poll.

FAO Jay-Z fans.

Last Monday, I saw Jay-Z live. I lucked out, got tickets from work. Until then, I was a casual fan, but boy, can he put on a show.

I've purchased The Black Album, American Gangster and The Blueprint. Where should I go next with this?
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« Reply #48 on: July 31, 2008, 11:01 AM »

Get "Reasonable Doubt". It's awesome.

Also, consider this thing updated with a poll.
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« Reply #49 on: July 31, 2008, 11:03 AM »

I also love the Hilltop Hoods The Hard Road Restrung featuring the Adelaide Symphony Orchestra. Next time someone tells you rap isn't real music, you have my permission to jam this album sideways, up their arse.

Not that that isn't a good album, but that kind of defence would kind of imply that the rest of rap isn't real music, wouldn't it?


Anyway... some good nominations in this thread but frankly I amazed at the lack of support for Snoop Dogg's classic 1993 debut Doggystyle. Along with Dre's The Chronic - on which Snoop featured heavily - this album really set the tone for so much of rap that has come since. Snoop's work dropped off in quality quite sharply from this point on, which I think is a great shame because holy fuck, this is the G-Funk album and hot damn is it a good one. (Incidentally I think Snoop's 2006 Tha Blue Carpet Treatment is the closest thing to a return to the form of his debut; apparently he was inspired to make it after his son didn't name him when asked who his favourite five rappers were).


From a different angle Wu-Tang have of course been massively influential and just massive in general; if I had to pick a favourite album of theirs it would really have to go to Wu Tang Forever, probably because For Heaven's Sake on the first CD is hands down the best Wu song ever made. However, my opinion of the Wu Tang is that, at the end of the day, they were just the beginning stages of the evolution of the man we know today as Method Man. He was always the best wordsmith in the group, and I think the amount of success he has enjoyed in his solo career compared to other Wu members shows this. Tical 2000: Judgment Day is, for me, an absolute blow-your-face-off tour de rapping force.


I'll just turn briefly to the UK scene because I feel obliged to, and, you know, because there's some good stuff going on in grime that doesn't get much global recognition because of the whole scene's inward-looking isolationist nature. Which is the scene's own fault entirely, but still. Dizzee Rascal gets a fair bit of stick both from inside and out of the "rap community" as it were but I am a huge fan of his newest album, Maths + English. Admittedly his debut Boy in da Corner had his two best tracks in Jus a Rascal and Fix up, Look Sharp, but I think for overall quality Maths + English takes the prize.

I am also a massive fan of Lethal Bizzle, partly because he isn't afraid to try new things musically - which, for a grime artist, marks him as exceptional - and partly because he's got a pretty decent sense of humour on him. Oh, and he can rap okay too I guess. His second album Back to Bizznizz (see, this is another reason why grime music doesn't get much respect) has some killer tracks on it.

If I had to organise the albums I've talked about into a top five - and I'm going to, because I like lists - it would go a little something like this:

5. Lethal Bizzle - Back to Bizznizz

4. Wu-Tang Clan - Wu Tang Forever

3. Dizzee Rascal - Maths + English

2. Method Man - Tical 2000: Judgment Day

1. Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle
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« Reply #50 on: July 31, 2008, 11:09 AM »

I believe you mean Wu-Tang Forever, not The W. The W pretty much sucked, actually.
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« Reply #51 on: July 31, 2008, 11:44 AM »

Indeed I did, Bond. Thanks for that.

I don't really agree that The W sucked, though; it was more of an album aiming for chart success than a traditional Wu-Tang CD, but it still had some decent tracks.
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« Reply #52 on: July 31, 2008, 12:21 PM »



Best ever.
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« Reply #53 on: July 31, 2008, 03:10 PM »

why the fuck is the marshal mathers lp on this poll?????
LIQUID SWORDS MOTHA FUCKAZ!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #54 on: July 31, 2008, 04:49 PM »

Settle down.

I added any album that had been nominated multiple times.
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« Reply #55 on: July 31, 2008, 04:59 PM »

Also because it's a pretty good rap album.
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« Reply #56 on: July 31, 2008, 08:36 PM »

If there's a poll Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five's "The Message" needs to be on there. A great album, with the single greatest rap track of all time.
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« Reply #57 on: August 01, 2008, 01:56 AM »

I particularly love '77%'

I really can't stand that song.  They just bit the beat from Eric B. & Rakim's "Paid In Full" and shoehorned in awful, awful bleeding heart lyrics about refugees over the top.

If we're talking Oz hip-hop, I'd have to say my favourite albums are The Calling by Hilltop Hoods (beats The Hard Road in my book, although I haven't heard Restrung), TZU's Position Correction, and When The Dust Settles by Downsyde.  Resin Dogs and Koolism released some mighty fine stuff, too.
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« Reply #58 on: August 01, 2008, 02:42 AM »

You're... You're a Liberal voter!

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« Reply #59 on: August 01, 2008, 02:49 AM »

Oh, don't get me wrong, I despise the Liberal party.  I just hate hippies more.


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