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Question: What is the best rap album ever made?
"The Marshall Mathers LP" - Eminem
"Illmatic" - Nas
"Enter the Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers" - Wu-Tang Clan
"Liquid Swords" - GZA
"Blueprint" - Jay-Z
"BlackStar" - Mos Def and Talib Kweli
"The Low End Theory" - A Tribe Called Quest
"The Score" - The Fugees
"Straight Outta Compton" - N.W.A.
"Reasonable Doubt" - Jay-Z
"Doggystyle" - Snoop Doggy Dogg
"It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back" - Public Enemy

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« Reply #140 on: October 20, 2009, 03:22 PM »

Can someone explain to me mainstream rap? Because I could never understand what makes some rappers mainstream and others not
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« Reply #141 on: October 20, 2009, 03:54 PM »

Well there is a difference between mainstream rap style, and mainstream music

mainstream rap style consists of shallow, short verses and usually relatively unskilled rapping in between a lot of chorus. Not usually very deep, topics include and are limited to money, 'bitches', cars, narcotics. Appeals to the young male/young girl demographic(see: idiots). This type of music appears on the radio in regular intervals, and has a broad audience (hence the main stream)
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Examples would be:
Soulja Boi
Young Jeezy (although he has some hard tracks underneath it all)
Akon
Three Six Mafia (post- when the smoke clears)
Eminem (post- Encore)
Fat Joe (post- Jealous ones envy)
lil Wayne

If any one would like to argue about the actual lyrical skills of any of these artists sans Eminem or Joe, I would like to hear it. always open to hear the other side from an intelligent perspective.
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« Reply #142 on: October 21, 2009, 02:14 PM »

You say that Eminem would count as Mainstream because of his lyrical content post-encore.

What about the songs on relapse which have things about killing a foetus with formaldehide, showing an umbrella up a woman's vagina and opening it etc...?
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« Reply #143 on: October 21, 2009, 04:04 PM »

I'm not saying relapse isn't mainstream
and its not always about pure lyrical content, even if someone sneaks in clever verses in between a gimmicky chorus that dominates the song, then it doesn't matter. BA DOING DOING DOINGGGGG
His topic is irrelevant at that point anyway, its execution that matters.

Wiz Khalifa's content is sorely lacking, it is literally the same redundant content in just about every song, but he executes it so well that its not really an issue.

But I think this is all discussion for an entirely different thread, so I digress
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« Reply #144 on: October 26, 2009, 07:20 PM »

It is true that the associative title of mainstream isn't dictated at all by lyrical content. Its just what's
popular at the time and/or what is signed to the current label giants. It's just coincidental that what the
majority of people like, with the exception of some outliers, is vein, shallow, belittling, repetitive, bull shit tales of strife.

with that said, best rap, for me, would be either Murs- murs 3:16, Brother Ali- shadows on the sun,
or the doomtree collaboration false hopes   

and if i was forced to choose a best 'mainstream' album, I would go with lupe's the cool
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« Reply #145 on: October 27, 2009, 07:36 AM »

Mainstream is what's popular. Gilgamesh, stop being a fucking poseur. If you like his earlier stuff better, whoop-de-fucking-doo. It doesn't mean his later stuff has less integrity or that people who like it are somehow wrong. Your cringeworthy passive aggressive comments - e.g. "it is literally the same redundant content in just about every song, but he executes it so well that its not really an issue", kind of akin to saying "wow you pull off being fat really well" - are the whiniest shit I have ever seen in a hip hop discussion. You are about as hip hop as fucking Carrot Top up the arse.

Also, Shadows on the Sun is an awesome album.
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« Reply #146 on: October 27, 2009, 12:45 PM »

well if there was a carrot top up your ass, best believe your hip would be broken and you'd be hopping around, so
in a pun-ish, bullshit way, carrot top up your ass is about as hip hop as you can get.

also i want to add P.O.S's -Audition up here too
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« Reply #147 on: October 31, 2009, 06:08 AM »

I would like to add Its Dark and Hell is Hot by DMX
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