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« on: August 17, 2007, 07:10 PM »

, on VH1.

I normally despise all kinds of reality-ish TV, but I'm enjoying the fuck out of this so far. 

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The VH1 series, THE PICK-UP ARTIST, is a tale of transformation. For these eight lovable losers, "socially awkward" is the understatement of the year. And when it comes to this lonely hearts club, desperate times call for desperate measures. Enter Mystery, best-selling author and ultimate pick-up artist--a former nerd from the Great White North who has discovered the secret to wooing women. Under his expert tutelage, he'll guide this group of hapless horndogs through the rough waters of romance and help them find the courage to overcome their biggest fear--talking to women.

In THE PICK-UP ARTIST, eight misfits will live together, learn together and love together as they compete for the title of "Master Pick-Up Artist." Over the course of eight episodes, the men will learn the ins and outs of the Mystery Method-- "how to open a set," "the number close" and "the kiss close" among others. Aided by his faithful wingmen, Matador and J Dog, Mystery will teach these average guys how to turn the women of their dreams into the women of their reality.

But this seduction school isn't confined the classroom. After each lesson, Mystery's awkward apprentices will put theory into practice, hitting bars, clubs and coffee houses in an attempt to make a love connection. Via hidden cameras, Mystery is always watching to see who's got potential and who's got to go.

In each episode, one contestant will be declared the winner of a challenge and granted immunity from elimination, while one sad sack will be sent packing. At the end of the eight weeks, one winner will be named "Master Pick-Up Artist" and awarded $50,000.

They may not all win the prize, but every pick-up protégé departs with the tools he'll need to change his life forever.

Who will rise to the occasion? Who will crack under the pressure? And who will become...The Pick-Up Artist?

It's 2 eps in, and I'm hooked.  They've got the awkward chubby Asian guy, the fat white guy, a midwestern guy who comes off as gay and doesn't want to, and the 45-year-old virgin.  And some other guys, but whatever.  Me, I'm dying to see if they can actually do something with a 45-year-old virgin.  Plus, I feel like I'm learning something while I'm watching this, since I am also pretty terrible with women. 

If you miss the episodes, they have clips you can watch on their website, which cover damn near the entire episodes, or at least the key stuff.

If you get the chance (9pm ET on VH1), watch it.
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2007, 11:02 AM »

I read Neil Strauss's  'The Game' about a year ago and I laughed my ass off when I saw that Mystery had his own show. Those guys have really made it big doing what they do.

The funny thing is, when I read JDATE I imagined JC to look and sound pretty much exactly like Mystery does.

It's a good book, by the way. If you like the show you might want to check it out.
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2007, 01:17 PM »

I was dissapointed by the first elimination.  It was obvious Mystery wanted to get rid of the other guy, and the one that did end up going Would probably have needed the lessons the most.
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2007, 11:28 PM »

The funniest part was after they went clothes shopping (on their own), they were promptly critiqued and insulted by a guy wearing a giant furry top hat.
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2007, 11:51 PM »

The funniest part was after they went clothes shopping (on their own), they were promptly critiqued and insulted by a guy wearing a giant furry top hat.

To be fair, the old guy did do himself up like a retarded clown, even compared to a guy in a furry hat, that was pretty fuckin' stupid.

but dammit,

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I wanted to see Fred stay around and learn a few things.  I wanna know there's hope for the completely tragic.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2007, 01:21 AM »

I will have to download this. Game was entertaining on its own, but Mystery shepherding around a bunch of nerds has all the potential in the world.
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2007, 08:39 AM »

I've just seen the third episode.  Pradeep is a total knob-end!  He has to go next week!

He has to!
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2007, 12:43 PM »

I actually had to turn the channel a couple times during the most recent "field test" at the club.  I called myself a pussy and turned the station right back, but I don't think I've ever seen anything so awkward.  Well, maybe the "Boom goes the dynamite!" guy.
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2007, 05:26 PM »

Ya, lets take a bunch of guys that can't even say "hi" to a girl, drop them into a nightclub full of girls that think/know they are hot, give the dudes some cheesy lines to recite, and watch the train wreck.

And, Nate, a guy that wears puffy shirts, giant furry top hats, and temp tattoos of lip prints forfeits any right to criticize another guy's look, no matter how goofy.
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2007, 05:28 PM »

And, Nate, a guy that wears puffy shirts, giant furry top hats, and temp tattoos of lip prints forfeits any right to criticize another guy's look, no matter how goofy.

But if you're banging Playboy-model calibre women then you regain that right.
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2007, 05:45 PM »

Does he actually do that? Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me, because women dig guys with confidence and he has to have that by the gallons to walk around in public looking like he does. And LA is the center for insecure, desperate for attention women.

But, I want proof he actually does bag model type chicks.

I also forgot another great moment of the first episode (the only one I saw). The Asian guy that won the first "challenge" is in the room practicing with that girl. He looked like he was about to piss himself. He wouldn't even look at her directly.
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2007, 09:04 PM »

The whole idea of wearing that goofy shit is to show that he can deal with social pressures. And it's not just in LA. Mystery is originally from Toronto.

I don't have proof of him banging models but it's mentioned in Neil Strauss's "The Game" that he steal a girl off Scott Baio. Also, if he didn't get the chicks he'd never have this TV show.
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2007, 11:12 PM »



Yeah a lot of guys (and girls) refuse to believe that this stuff works but Mystery has been making a pretty good living doing it for a while now.

I know a guy who looks like he's homeless and I've never seen him without gorgeous women hanging all over him. How does he do it? I don't know, I'm not a master pickup artist.


Interestingly, in 'the Game' Strauss mentions that Mystery has some really serious psychological problems. I believe they had to dig him out of the fetal position in the back of his car and drag him to the psych ward a few times.


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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2007, 02:45 PM »

Yeah a lot of guys (and girls) refuse to believe that this stuff works but Mystery has been making a pretty good living doing it for a while now.

I think that has a lot to do with ego. Guys hate to admit their wrong and so when a system like the Mystery Method comes out and shows them that they automatically reject it in their mind and look for all the ways that it doesn't work.

An old friend of mine is one of those guys that rejects it. He heard about it and then immediately said how it was all wrong and what not. Thing is this guy is worse than me when it comes to relationships. He has a girlfriend now, but she's clearly something he just settled on to try to fill a void in his life. It's kind of sad to watch. I know this guy could benefit from the pickup community but he refuses to open his mind about it.
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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2007, 08:37 AM »

Yeah a lot of guys (and girls) refuse to believe that this stuff works but Mystery has been making a pretty good living doing it for a while now.

I think that has a lot to do with ego. Guys hate to admit their wrong and so when a system like the Mystery Method comes out and shows them that they automatically reject it in their mind and look for all the ways that it doesn't work.

Definately.  I was looking at "The Game" on amazon, and the amount of hatred directed at this book by random people in the reviews was amazing.  It's like they think it's a handbook on how to use chloroform or something!
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« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2007, 08:05 AM »

Watching the clips now and wishing we got the series over here. I have a lot of admiration for Mystery, I think even the haters would be hard-pressed to deny his talent, intelligence and sheer balls. It's a hard choice between him and Strauss when it comes to whom I admire the most - the skillful illusionist or the successful author and both of them smooth as hell.

In regards the pickup scene itself, I'd say it has a lot to offer even to men who are already good with women. What it ultimately teaches is that the ladies are looking for character above looks, money or penis size. As I'd previously been relying solely on my colossal love-Leviathan, that realisation led me to doing some serious work on myself. Pickup, after all, provides a very tempting gateway into the more functional aspects of self-improvement, psychology, communication and so on. And yeah, it does have its dark side but then that's true of any form of knowledge or power; it's all in how you apply it.
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« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2007, 11:21 AM »

A couple of my female friends actually teared up during this last episode, but I'm a little upset. I'm pretty sure Kosmo is going to win.

Why does this upset me?  He's not a bad looking guy, he's in really good shape, he's had girlfriends before, he's a really good kisser, etc.

I really wanted the geekiest guys to stick around, now I'm rooting for the fat dude.



Reality shows are generally pretty scripted and I can already see the final episode. Cosmo wins, gives a big voiceover about how much he's changed, how he used to be terrified to talk to women, about how self consious he felt in a speedo even though he has a 6 pack, blah blah blah.


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« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2007, 11:53 AM »

A couple of my female friends actually teared up during this last episode, but I'm a little upset. I'm pretty sure Kosmo is going to win.

Why does this upset me?  He's not a bad looking guy, he's in really good shape, he's had girlfriends before, he's a really good kisser, etc

How do you know he's a good kisser?
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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2007, 12:14 PM »


They had an episode where they taught the guys how to kiss, and then they all had to make out with the same woman who was going to judge them.

She said that he was a really good kisser.

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« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2007, 12:42 PM »

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