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« on: March 28, 2007, 10:29 PM »


Been around the block?  Think you have some pearls of wisdom for the youngsters here?  This is where you present it.  Let others learn from your experience.

Gotten screwed on a financial deal?  Gotten into the wrong kind of relationship?  Made a dumb decision?  Want to stop somebody else from doing the same?  Here's your chance.
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2007, 10:34 PM »

Let me kick this off with something inspired from another thread in here, where a 19 year-old guy was posting about conflict with his dad over computer access.  The advice is...

Always Be Paying Rent

Almost everyone who struggles through their 20's will have, at one point, an offer to live with someone else for free.  Either a girl, or a sympathetic friend, or Mom and Dad will offer to let you move back in. 

"Don't worry about rent right now.  You just need to get back on your feet!"

Don't do it. 

You're giving up more control of your life than you know.  They WILL expect something from you in return, and they WILL get tired of having you there eventually.  I know a dozen friends and co-workers who have taken up somebody on what seemed like a dream offer, and approximately 100% of them wound up 1) regretting it and 2) having to abruptly find new accommodations on desperately short notice.  Something always comes up.




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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2007, 10:49 PM »

Take college seriously.

I didn't, and I regret the hell out of it.

I didn't spend my time partying and getting drunk rather than going to class; I simply would drop a class if I didn't like it, rather than stick with it.  As a result, I've been going to college, off and on, for the past 6 years, and I've yet to get a two-year degree.  And since I have no recent work experience in the jobs I want, and no degree, I'm stuck looking for work at places like Wal-Mart.

Don't be an idiot like me.  Go to class, put up with your dumb fucking teacher, do the stupid boring assignments, and get it over with.  Go even if you're operating on two hours of sleep and you're only half-awake through the whole thing.  Do the assignments even if all four classes give you your major end-term projects at the same time and you can only do them half-assed.  (Not that I advocate not getting sleep and doing half-assed jobs; I'm just saying it's better than not doing it at all.)
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2007, 10:59 PM »

If you find yourself invited to spend the weekend visiting your boy/girlfriend's family, take some time to actually talk to his/her parents as though they were real people.  Ask them about their lives, jobs, etc.  Also, help with the kitchen cleanup, clean up your mess before you leave, etc.  Respect the house rules, regardless of what you are used to. 
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2007, 11:11 PM »

  Be careful with credit cards

  When you start building credit, (in my experience) you'll get a lot of offers for credit cards, but you won't get offers for good credit cards. You'll get offers for credit cards that have annual fees, usually very high fees, and they'll have high intrest rates, too. This means as soon as you accept the card, you'll owe hundreds of dollars in fees without ever charging anything on the card. You'll have to get a shitty card and keep it in good standing before you get offers for ones with good rates and no annual fees. My advice: pay it off fast and then cut it up. Don't even charge anything on it. I had to give mine to my dad to keep myself from using it. After that you'll start to get offers for cards you can keep and use permanently, but even then be very careful. And remember, a big chunk of your credit score is based on the ratio of available credit you're currently using, so it's more important to have a small credit card that's paid off than it is to have a large card that's maxed out.
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2007, 12:11 AM »

Find out what you want and how to get it:
I've always tended to be unfocused and to just piss away my spare time.  One of the best things I've ever done was start, every two months or so, sitting down for a couple hours and thinking about exactly what I want out of life and how to run my life.  I now keep a list of general goals I want to accomplish posted next to my door, and made a habit of looking at it.  Now, instead of wasting time watching TV or whatnot, I'll read that list and do something to better my life. 

If you aren't halfway convinced by your opponent's arguments, you don't really understand them:
This is really for political issues, and is much more of a problem, I find, for people on the left wing at the moment.  There's not much in the world that hasn't been thought about by as many people as questions of politics, and to dismiss the people you disagree with as obviously wrong is to enforce your own ignorance.  I've met people who seriously thought the only reasons anyone could ever have for the war in Iraq were a) you're a cartoonishly evil oil thief, or b) you were tricked by a cartoonishly evil oil thief.
This goes for lots of other things too.  I study and teach philosophy, and invariably what happens with people new to philosophy is that they will find some philosopher they think is obviously wrong and stupid, and dismiss them out of hand.  Two years later, they realize they never really understood what the dude was saying.

Finally, some good advice from T-to-the-Olstoi
"If you want to be happy, be"
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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2007, 02:43 AM »

This is a minor thing about college. Like your instructors. Think of something good about each of them. This is necessary to get good grades. Don't take it personally when they're unfair or foreign. Just get along with them because it's something you have to do, like carry a pen.
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2007, 08:01 AM »

If someone says all they need is X, Y and Z and they will be happy with your relationship then get out of the relationship.  Otherwise you will find that there is an endless supply of Xs, Ys and Zs.
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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2007, 08:43 AM »

Another bit of college wisdom...

Go to class. 

Once you get to college, especially in the first two years when many of your classes are large enough to where you won't be missed, the temptation to skip those classes (a freedom you didn't enjoy in high school) will be almost intolerable.  Any pretext will do, and by and by it becomes a habit.

There is, however, a direct correlation between showing up  to class and getting good grades. 

And this next one I learned the hard way:

Never invest in a stock whose price will depend on impending news which you expect to be good.

And its corollary:

Never invest more than you're willing to lose.
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2007, 09:22 AM »

How to get rich

Dont make a plan to get rich. It seldom works that way. Think about what you love doing. What you really REALLY love doing. And do it.

Thats it. It really is that simple. And it matters little what you love doing. It seems silly, trivial, not a good earner? Bollocks. Do it. Spending a lifetime doing someting you hate is a road to an early grave, not to riches.

Thats my advice. If you want I'll bore you with an example?

The Hot Dog Man. Doesnt sound like a get-rich-quick scheme, eh?

Years ago a mate of mine had a hot dog van. He loved hot dogs. He loved the smell, the banter with customers. He was happy but poor.

The buns he bought were shite. So he went to a bakers and asked if they could make him a better bun. They did. And it was cheaper than the buns he, and every other hot dog man bought.

So he started selling hot dog buns to all the other hot dog men. Then he bought the bakery. Then 6  more bakeries throughout the land.

Then, after about 10 years he sold them all and put his money into property.

Today he lives in Nice, France and is very rich. Because he loved the hot dog business.
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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2007, 10:12 AM »

Treat your work relationships like work relationships

These people are your coworkers. They might become friends but they probably won't. What they can do is make your life easier or harder depending on what they think of you. Be nice to them, even if they are stupid - you need them. Being the workplace asshole will win you nothing. Your daily work will be more difficult and your chances of getting ahead will be severely reduced.

Make your career decisions based on what you can be happy doing

What can you do 40-60 hours a week and be happy? Do that.

Basically what Bambi said.

Be sure you can sell one house before you buy another

This one may be well into the future for many of you but it is good advice. I am leaning this one right now. When I got a job in another state in July of '05 we were financially secure enough to buy a house in our new town and just put the old one on the market. The bottom dropped out of the housing market and today we have still not managed to sell the old house and are pretty much out of savings.
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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2007, 10:38 AM »

Since this is supposed to be for the youngsters. 

Always remember your age, try to be humbled by the fact that a lot of people around you have been doing what they are doing since before you were born.  Your parents have probably been earning their own way since before you were born.  Think about that when your listing all their shortcomings.

If you get a college degree and enter into middle management in a company, some of those people working under you have been doing their job before your parents even knew each other.  Don't treat every new idea you have as if you just reinvented the wheel, but instead respectfully ask these old timers for the pros and cons of your idea, chances are you are not the first one to have this idea and they are first hand sources of information on why it didn't work.  Don't make the mistake of thinking all of your ideas are completely original, and that the only reason they aren't instantly being implemented in their entirety is due to the old farts who are afraid of change.
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2007, 10:44 AM »

If you think you're in a disastrous relationship, ask your friends

Another one straight from experience, but it's also commonsense. Chances are if you're in a serious relationship that's having problems, you probably don't have a lot of perspective on the issue. Your friends, however, have known you for a long time, and have seen the relationship probably in it's entirety and it's impact on you, positive or negative. They'll be able to give you clear, level headed advice, but you're probably going to need to ask for it. If your relationship is going down the shitter, they're probably too polite to point it out, if it's going really well - despite what you think - they probably won't think they need to tell you that. If you're having problems, ask for advice; good friends are going to be more than happy to give it and candidly.

You don't want to find yourself in a scenario where you break up with someone and then everyone of your friends comes out and tells you "Fuck, dude s/he was fucking batshit. I didn't want to say anything, but, damn." Or perhaps worse: "You broke up with them? What the fuck, dude, are you retarded?"
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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2007, 11:05 AM »

I forgot the most important one.

Treat the person you are in a relationship with with MORE respect than you do other people

It is unbelievable to me how many couples get into a close and intimate relationship and decide that means they don't have to be respectful to each other. Say please and thank you. Be nice. Make entertainment decisions together.
Just because you live with someone and they let you have sex with them doesn't mean they want to smell you take a crap, close the door. If the other person is special to you, treat them at least as well as you would a stranger. Also, if you find that you love someone, tell them. Often.

If the vast majority of the activities you enjoy are not more enjoyable with your girlfriend/boyfriend, break up

You should want to spend lots and lots of time with the person you are with. If you don't have more fun when they are around or, even worse, you need them to be somewhere else to really enjoy yourself get rid of them. Life is too short to be with someone you don't really love to be with.
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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2007, 11:34 AM »

Save Money Early

This goes for when you get for your first big job early out of college if.  Make absolutely sure that you're contributing enough to your 401(k) so that the company is maxing out their contribution.  If your company contributes 100% of the 5% of your pay, contribute at least 5%.  If they do 4%, make sure you're at least contributing 4%, etc., etc.  You're just turning down free money otherwise.

If you can force yourself to postpone buying unnecessary items and actually save that money, you will reap tremendous rewards down the road.  The time value of money is a great thing; use it to your advantage.
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« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2007, 12:21 PM »

Don't Try to Please Everybody

First of all, it's simply not doable.  Secondly, it will tear you in so many directions, you won't have time for yourself.  And lastly, you'll find that that in trying to accommodate everyone, you often times will sell out your own values.  It's not worth it - do what you know is right, and stand up for what you believe in.  People will respect you for it, even if they don't agree with you.  The main reason people adopt a "people-pleasing" attitude is because they're afraid of not being liked.  But as the great Dr. Seuss once said:

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« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2007, 12:32 PM »

Never Take Cocaine and Alcohol at the Same Time

A case could certainly be made for not using alchohol.  McGruff the Crime Dog can give good earnest reasons for not doing cocaine.  What I want to explain though is how metabolism and pharmokinetics apply, here, and why you should care.  I'll tell you that last part now If you use take cocaine and alcohol at the same time, it can kill you stone dead.

The liver is the bodies primary means of breaking down toxins and foreign objects we decide to put in our mouths or noses.  This includes Cocaine, and this includes alcohol.   Now normally both cocaine and alcohol are metabolised just fine by the liver, as the body works desperatly to stop you from poisoning yourself.  But when you combine two poisons the effects are not additivive, they are multiplicative.   It's like adding 2 and 2 and getting 17. 

The Liver focuses first on the alchohol leaving Coke to travel unmetabolised to area's of the brain it really has no business being.  An itty bitty sniff then can turn into a great big hit.  If you're both inexperianced and immature that hit can be enough to give you a heart attack or a stroke.  The same thing can happen if you are neither of these things mind.

If you manage to survive then the extra ethanol in your liver will also interact with the cocaine to metabolize it into a wholly new substance- cocaethylene -which can also do odd things to your brain in addition to damaging your heart valves.

Stick to mixing safer vices like sex and violence, or pot and pizza.  Good luck.
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« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2007, 12:39 PM »

Do Not Be Afraid to Fail.
The dreams or goals that you have are going to be challenging (if they were easy they wouldn't be worth doing).  So, at times, you are going to fail and you are going to experience a few set backs.  But if you learn from these "failures" and stay focused, you will grow to be better at your chosen dream and get even closer to accomplishing it.  In other words, challenge yourself, go after that dream no matter how hard you think it may be, you might be surprised how well you do with it.

Like Shakespeare says,"'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all."  It other words it is better to have tried and failed than to never try at all.
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« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2007, 05:15 PM »

Don't let the little things get you down.

This may seem obvious, but it's something I've struggled with my whole life.  I have OCD, so when I make a mistake, I tend to obsess over for weeks at a time, and feel like hurting myself whenenver I think of it.  This, combined with the fact that I'm already harshley sefl-critical, makes this behavior almost crippling.

The simple fact is, most of the little fuck-ups you commit don't really matter in the long run.  Life goes on, and most of the time everyone else has forgotten about it, even if you haven't. 
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« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2007, 07:44 PM »

No one ever got shot for being polite.
It doesn't hurt to say please and thank you.  If some poor soul has to deal 100 rude arse-holes and you are the one person who brings a little sunshine to their day by showing some courtesy, you never know how much this can pay off for you some where down the line.

In business: Pay your bills on time every time, even if it means you have to make personal sacrifices.  It is mind boggling the amount of people I have dealt with who seem to think its clever to hold out on paying their bills for the tiny bit of extra interest this may earn them or because they are too proud to get an overdraft.  The ill will this creates FAR out weighs any short term benefit.  Conversely if you are known as someone who pays in full on time, people will fall all over themselves to get your business and give you great deals and service to keep it.

Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the very definition of insanity. Pretty self explanatory and applies to all areas of life.

The guy on the top of the heap didn't fall there. Don't be jealous of other people's success, be inspired by it.  Maybe their success looked like it came easy, but you can bet there were some blood, sweat and tears, not to mention some risk taking involved on their part.  The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary.

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