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« Reply #500 on: May 09, 2008, 10:48 AM »

You think Tim Sylvia is going to out-strike Fedor? Really? Because I see the stand up in that fight going completely the other way. Fedor is far too quick for Tim standing up. He's probably the quickest fighter in the HW division. Remember what Arlovski did to Tim in the first and second fights (before he became completely tentative in the third fight)? He put Sylvia on his ass. I think you are underrating Fedor's stand-up. Maybe he's not the second best striker in all of MMA, but his hands are excellent. This is a guy who, when Cro Cop was considered the most fearsome striker on the planet, got in his face and walked him down en route to winning the stand up in that fight.

I'm not saying that Fedor knocks Timmy out, but I do think his standup is significantly better. Fedor's the best gameplanner in all of MMA, so I don't think he'll keep this fight on the feet, but if he did I still thinks he wins this fight with ease.
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« Reply #501 on: May 09, 2008, 11:11 AM »

remember fedor also beat semmy schilt. not with stand up but schilt has alot better striking than tim sylvia. the only reason i say fedor as one of the best strikers in mma was because like i said in previous posts watch the look on the guys faces when he hits them. he made gary goodridge look like a seven year old. but with tim's straight punches and his obvious reach advantage it will be intresting. like my friend said about the crocop fight, fedor went in there and stood the whole time, he took a couple gut kicks (which knocked out heath herring, definately a tough guy) and caught a kick and threw him almost out of the ring. at the time that was unheard of. he even took a kick in the head which cut him open. i also agree with the best fightplanner statement. really it's undeniable that he is one of the best all-around. it will be an intresting fight. i think when sylvia started fighting people couldn't get around his straight punches, but now people are learning from randy (duck the left and come in with an overhand right). which also happens to be one of fedors most devastating punches. fedor doesn't win by knockout because he's trying to win period, not trying to get fight of the night. know what i mean? it's been a while since he's fought some real opponents so i can't help but doubt him a little, but my guess is actually what (rob?) said, he'll start with punches to throw off tim, then get the takedown, throw some more punches and finish with a sub. also remember that the subs he uses are all basics (tryed and true basics though) so to say he is a sub fighter is wrong. he is a true mma fighter (complete in all aspects)
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« Reply #502 on: May 09, 2008, 11:13 AM »

Dude, seriously, paragraphs and line breaks. Learn to use them. No one can read your posts if you don't.
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« Reply #503 on: May 09, 2008, 11:16 AM »

I agree with you completely, Hurtch.  

Fedor is a master tactician, and he won't stand in front of Tim and eat jabs for a round, like Big Nog....if he did, for some inexplicable reason, I see the fight mirroring the Tim/Nog fight.  

But Fedor is not a KO artist. He uses his strikes effectively to set up his submissions. That's all I'm saying. He shouldn't be considered one of MMA's best strikers when there are fighters like Anderson Silva and Crocop for comparison.

Fedor will armbar Timmy in the 1st round come July.  I have very little doubt about that.
July 19 can't come soon enough.  Timmy will be a legit test for him, and hopefully it leads into a fight with Couture, or Barnett.

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« Reply #504 on: May 09, 2008, 12:28 PM »

Am I the only one in the world who thinks Tim Silvia is a nearly-worthless ball of goop?
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« Reply #505 on: May 09, 2008, 12:41 PM »

I can't say I'm that impressed by him, but 24-4 is a decent record. I'm trying to figure out why he gets a shot at Fedor before Couture does, though, given that Timmy is coming off a loss to Nogueira and Couture thoroughly owned Timmy. 3 of Tim's 4 losses were by submission, so I think I can guess how Fedor will go after him. Could be an interesting fight...or it could be a repeat of the Couture fight, with Timmy getting dominated.
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« Reply #506 on: May 09, 2008, 01:30 PM »

I think it's a smart move for Fedor to fight Timmy first. 

He fights a guy who is former UFC champ, who is not well liked.  If Fedor went straight for Captain America, it would be bad publicity for him in the eyes of the casual mma fan in the US.

Fedor really gains nothing by beating up Couture.  If he loses, he was overrated, if he wins, he beat up a fan favorite who is passed his prime.  The Randy fans will continue to believe that if the fight had taken place 5 or 6 years ago, that Couture would own Fedor.

I don't see Fedor as unbeatable.  If you had a guy with Crocop's striking and Randy's wrestling ability....or maybe it'll be a Buster Douglas that dethrones him?  Anything can happen in mma.
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« Reply #507 on: May 09, 2008, 01:44 PM »

If you had a guy with Crocop's striking and Randy's wrestling ability...

What mythical fighter are you referring to? Fedor will eventually lose...I just don't see Tim beating him. Unless Fedor makes a tactical error (for example, allowing Tim to kick him in the head four or five times) or Tim fights the fight of his life, I just don't see it happening.
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« Reply #508 on: May 09, 2008, 11:34 PM »

I'm trying to figure out why he gets a shot at Fedor before Couture does...

Simply because Randy is in contractual limbo with Zuffa. I'm sure Affliction or another promoter would have jumped all over the Randy/Fedor match up if the opportunity had been there.
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« Reply #509 on: May 12, 2008, 10:15 AM »

Did anyone get to catch the DREAM event that just passed? I heard it was really good.
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« Reply #510 on: May 12, 2008, 10:18 AM »

also, for colonel, whatever dude you get my point.
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« Reply #511 on: May 12, 2008, 06:35 PM »

I watched DREAM 3.

It was an enjoyable event, but I think the quality of the card has been blown out of proportion by fans clamoring for DREAM to become the "new PRIDE". Anybody who refers to this card as "excellent" or "10 on 10" is, honestly, out of their mind. There wasn't a single match between two top 20 fighters (No, Alvarez could not be considered top 20 after one win at 155 against Andre Amade). The non-tournament bouts were mainly mismatches, and the main event was Mitsuhiro Ishida versus Caol Uno. BJ Penn/Sean Sherk it was not. 

That's not to say the event was bad. The Hansen/Alvarez fight was excellent and definitely one of the best fights of 2008 to date. You should watch it if you get a chance. Alvarez has looked mighty impressive at 155, and I think he has a realistic shot to win this tournament depending on the match ups. It was also nice to see Caol Uno make himself relevant again with his surprising dominance of Ishida. The Kawajiri match was fairly dull, and I don't think it's encouraging that he hasn't been able to finish either Kultar Gill or Buscape. It's a shame the Aoki/Nagata fight was pushed back to DREAM 4, because that would have added a little bit more depth to this card, although I think Aoki subs Nagata fairly easily.

I'm looking forward to the semis and finals of this tournament, although I think it's a shame that they're scheduled for one event. I'd much rather see these guys fight each other in top condition rather than having to survive a fight earlier in the night.
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« Reply #512 on: May 14, 2008, 07:40 AM »

yeah i agree, doing the tourny like that is a bit crappy. it would be nice to see them fight in top condition. i don't know why people are going so ape-shit over this tournament. it's nice to see some new fights, but it's true none of these guys are the best of the best or anything. the affliction card looks alot better from what i've heard. it also seems that the ufc in london is getting crappier. it was gonna be great but when the fighters started dropping out they added alot of "meh" type fights.
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« Reply #513 on: May 14, 2008, 11:49 PM »

TUF 7 Thoughts:

Patrick Schlutz looks like a gay-er Mark DellaGrotte. Atleast Mark can look badass when he takes off that stupid style of hat. After dropping Cale twice he seemed to throw all technique away and started to throw wild haymakers. I thought he was going to eek out a win since he had dropped the guy twice and then get his shit ruined in the next match, but I was denied seeing that.

Similarily, that wrestler who fought Amir was another guy I thought was going to win only to be ruined in the next fight. There were so many times when Amir had one leg over top of the wrestler's shoulder and just needed to grab that ankle to start setting up the triangle. I could easily be missing something but it just seemed like Amir would have subbed him had he had a ground game.

I find it hilarious how the episode ends with Rampage and Forrest pissed at eachother only to see the preview next week of Forrest shooting a net onto Rampage and then Rampage laughing as he's caught in it.
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« Reply #514 on: May 16, 2008, 07:20 AM »

I know Schultz dropped Yarbrough twice in round 1, but Yarbrough ended the round by dominating Schultz. Round 2 was total domination. Theoretically Schultz won round 1, but man...after round 2, I can see why they just gave the decision to Yarbrough. Once Schultz was on his back, he just covered up and ate elbows. I'm kind of surprised Mazzagatti didn't stop the fight because Schultz was covered up and not fighting back in round 2. I'm just happy to see that idiot lose a fight. He fights terribly - he has no punching ability in his left hand and his kicks looked flimsy. He already lost once, so he doesn't even deserve to be on the show.

I'd kind of like to see Schultz fight Gerald (even though they're both on Team Rampage), just to see Gerald drop Schultz on his head 8 or 9 times. Speaking of Gerald, he doesn't really seem to get the point of slams. He never seemed to follow up his slams with GnP, he'd just go for another slam. If he'd slammed Amir and gone straight to his head with forearms and elbows, it might have been a short fight. Instead he gassed himself lifting Amir then ate a knee. If he can sort his strategy out, Gerald might actually be a pretty decent fighter (with a little more experience).
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« Reply #515 on: May 18, 2008, 10:54 PM »

Dana White is the biggest douchebag on the planet. That is all.
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« Reply #516 on: May 22, 2008, 11:18 AM »

Two days until UFC 84, time for predictions:


Looks like a pretty solid card to me, with 4 fights that I am looking forward to.

BJ Penn vs Sean Sherk  -  I'm hoping to see Penn submit Sherk by round 3, otherwise Sherk wins by decision.

Wanderlei Silva vs Keith Jardine  -  It's time for Wandy to step it up to a new level and I see him winning by 2nd round TKO.

Tito Ortiz vs Lyoto Machida  -  Styles make fights, and in this case I see Tito taking Machida down and grinding out a decision.

Soukoudjou  vs  Nakamura  -  Nakamura's win/loss record isn't anything special, but he's got a lot of big name fights under his belt.  Submission win in round 2.

Sa9jev.  What did Dana White say/do this time to elicit your comment? 
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« Reply #517 on: May 22, 2008, 02:51 PM »

I agree with all of those except the Tito fight. I think Machida will outfox him for sure and catch him with something unexpected. Tito is past his prime, in my opinion.

Dana White has just always gotten on my nerves. He seems like such a poser, and every god damn word out of his mouth just has to be the most EXTREME!, irritating thing in the world. Ever other word out of his mouth is fuck, and trying to listen to any sort of interview with him is like practicing Morse Code.

"So he fucking gets this guy the fuck down to the ground, and he's like fucking going to work on the ground fuck and pound, but he also has a fuck great stand up game too, so fucking fuck fuck fuck FUCK..." etc.
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« Reply #518 on: May 24, 2008, 01:50 PM »

Absolutely loaded UFC card tonight. Top to bottom this is stacked full of meaningful and competitive fights, with a super main event to top it off. Sherk/Penn is a fight I've been anticipating for about a year now (since Sherk's win over Franca at UFC 73), and I'm excited that it's finally coming off. An MMA fan can't ask for much more than this. It's a shame I won't be able to catch it live, so I'll have to check out a replay tomorrow and hopefully avoid spoilers, which is much harder to do now than it was a few years ago.

Anyways, fight picks:

Sokoudjou over Kazuhiro Nakamura. TKO 1. While Sok was outclassed by Machida in his last fight, I think he has all the tools to handle the cagey Nakamura. Sokoudjou didn't react well to somebody who could evade his striking and was quicker than he was, but I don't think Nakamura brings the same skill set as Machida. I see Sokoudjou connecting with something big in the first round and pounding out Nakamura.

Thiago Silva over Antonio Mendes. TKO 1. I wont pretend to know anything about Mendes, but his record is unimpressive and I've heard he should be fairly outclassed. It's too bad Rashad got bumped from this fight, because that would have been yet another marquee match up. Silva early.

Lyoto Machida over Tito Ortiz. DEC 3. I think Machida is going to be too quick on the feet for Ortiz to get a hold of. We haven't seen a great deal of Machida's takedown defense, but reports from his camp have said it's excellent. I think Tito's past his prime, and Machida picks him apart standing up en route to a wide decision, although he'll face some adversity in this fight.

Wanderlei Silva over Keith Jardine. TKO 2. More of a gut feeling call than anything else. This is a very evenly matched fight, and Jardine's length and leg kicks could cause Wandy all sorts of problems. Both of these guys train with top notch camps, and both should be ready for a battle. This should be an awesome fight, but I look for Silva's clinch game to be the difference maker.

BJ Penn over Sean Sherk. SUB 3. An outstanding fight, maybe the best possible match in all of MMA outside of a Randy/Fedor fight. BJ Penn's top control is the best in the game and will win him this fight. You simply can't replicate the kind of pressure Penn is able to impose while training to fight him, and that's what makes him so dangerous. Very few fighters in any weight class have a skill that is so above and beyond everybody else's rendering it almost impossible to fully prepare for. I also believe his wrestling is good enough to stay off his back long enough to punish Sherk on the feet and eventually get him to the ground. Sherk has only ever lost to top-shelf fighters, but BJ is definitely of that calibre. On the flip side, Sherk's style is tailor made to give Penn all kinds of problems. I expect fireworks, and for Penn to ascend to the throne as the #1 155er in MMA.


 

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« Reply #519 on: May 25, 2008, 04:07 AM »

Machida is a machine but his style isn't Anderson Silva-smash-your-face-in or GSP-total domination dominance. It's just very very 'technical' and different. I would like to see him up against a Rampage or Grifffin or Liddell.

BJ Penn as much as I dislike him is a GREAT fighter and easily dominated Sherk. I was not surprised by the outcome. However, I would LOVE to see Penn fight GSP. I think GSPs ground and standup game plus his insane speed (watch his fights he is probably one of the fastest and quickest fighters on the planet) would easily beat Penn.

Silva wasn't going to lose this fight. There's no way that Jardine was going to be able to stand up and face a man like Silva. Silva is 1-3 in his last 4 bouts so he needs to reel off some easy wins to get another crack at the title which I do think he deserves. He will need to go through Liddell one more time.

And bye bye Ortiz, I don't know where you think you're going to find the caliber of fighters that the UFC has. Feel free to go fight Shamrock a few more times or feast on the second tier fighters in the IFL or Elite XC. In the MMA business you don't get to fight against the orginization and win. Yea Ortiz is popular but he's a pain in the ass to deal with and he's a jerk otherwise. In 3-4 years when he is beating on local kids in local tournaments he can look to the UFC and see all the other successful asses who are still fighting in the big show. You don't fight the UFC and win. TKO Dana White
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