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« on: February 11, 2005, 05:44 PM »

I had high hopes for Nathan Barley, being a big fan of Chris Morris and having some grudging respect for Charlie Brooker, despite his responsibility for the 11 O'clock Show, and thus Ian Lee.

Frankly my hopes were dashed. There were a few moments of brilliance like the fellow with the flip-flops on his head and the black gentleman with the very small hat. However, the whole premise seems 5 years out of date and I must now ask: is Chris Morris now rubbish?
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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2005, 05:50 PM »

Did he do anything between Jam and this, apart from My Wrongs?

Anyway...yes, he seems to be now rubbish.  That or he just attached his name to the programme without doing anything else towards it.  I had a hard time identifying parts of the show that were even meant to be jokes apart from the caricatures of The Trendy and The Hippy Fella.

I'm not really surprised I didn't like it, since "Cunt" was always one of the bits I skipped over on TV Go Home.  Still, worth a shot.  Now I'll go watch some Brass Eye and remember happier times.
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2005, 05:55 PM »

And let's be honest, My Wrongs was just a filmed version of one his Blue Jam monologues from Radio 1.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2005, 05:59 PM »

I liked it. I don't think the ideas particularly out of date, in fact post-post-modernism has been long overdue in sitcom. Bear in mind though that first episodes are usually devoted to character exposition in the subtler shows like this. Wait until a second episode before you judge.

Then again I said that about the new series of 'Look Around You'.
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2005, 06:06 PM »

Watched 10 minutes, seemed dull.
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2005, 06:16 PM »

I partially retract my vote based on the website,  if only for the headline Beck: Handclaps & farting
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2005, 07:08 PM »

I thought it was entertaining. Not as good as it should of been, and not even close to what Morris can do. It might pick up though, but I doubt it.

As for Morris, I have faith in him. I'll look forward to whatever he decides to do next, and if thats shit, I'll look forward to whatever he decides to do after that. I'll always have faith in him. If he can get something thats only half as brilliant as the Day Today on TV again, it will easily be the funniest show I've seen in years. I'm not making excuses, but he did only co-write this afterall, and he works best alone.

Anyone have any idea what hes doing next? Personally I'll never understand why he only did a handful of episodes of a show like Brasseye.
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2005, 07:23 PM »

Paedophile special?
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2005, 07:24 PM »

Massive controversy over a superb show, which must have created record ratings for the show?
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2005, 07:36 PM »

I completely forgot the paedophile show; I accidentally lumped all Brass Eye together from 1997.  I really enjoyed it too.  "Welcome to Paedogeddon!"
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2005, 07:47 PM »

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You never know how much C4 were being pressured by moral panic groups. Or maybe Morris didn't want to squeeze all life out of Brass Eye he could.
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2005, 09:21 PM »

I havent heard a lot of his radio shows, I think On the Hour is in a similar format to Brass Eye and the Day Today and I've seen people say that a lot of On the Hour was recycled for TV. So maybe Morris has pushed that type of show as far as he can and you have to respect him for not choking everything out of it. But still, I think he could of easily gotten away with another series for Brass Eye and the Day Today, maybe even two more.
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2005, 09:36 PM »

I've heard some On The Hour, and some sketches were indeed recycled- Rosie May and Peter O'Hanrahahanrahan most notably.  Because I like typing that name out.

I agree he could have done more of them.  Hell, if he'd taken it to America he'd have to think of up to thirty ideas for Brass Eye specials.  Why the hell are English series still so short?
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2005, 07:12 AM »

Chris Morris was one person among several talented comedians who created On the Hour, The Day Today and Brasseye.  To say he was responsible for the greatness of these shows is wrong.

As for Nathan Barley, I liked it.  It wasn't laugh-out-loud funny but I don't expect that from Morris.  It has a nice cynical feel to it which I could relate to.  I like the way it pokes fun at the idiot who tries to be subversive and different but just ends up missing the point and contributing nothing to anything.   Christ, this forum alone is filled with people who think they're being funny by telling cock jokes or saying "jew", like they're the first ever person to break the conservative rules of society (cue the follow-up post from some retard calling me a jew because, haha, no one would ever expect that).

At the same time they don't make Daniel Ashcroft into a 'last of the intellects' character.  You can see this when he tries to escape from Sugar Ape and makes a tit of himself at the interview.  You also see him start to enjoy the cock/muff/bumhole tournament.  Ashcroft is a step above the rest of the staff at Sugar Ape, but not by much.  I'm curious to see how his relationship with these people he despises develops.
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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2005, 10:46 PM »

What's this about Chris Rock?
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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2005, 07:23 AM »

No. It's well weapon.

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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2005, 08:50 AM »

I'll hold Mr. Morris dear for his work in On The Hour, Day Today and Brasseye.  True, the Day Today was basicalyl a rehashed on the hour, but whilst there are similar jokes, there are no jokes the same.

He stopped those programs at the right time - Brasseye wasn't getting dull, but it was being slated by moral groups, so to hit back with the paedophile special was a magic move.

But, time will tell with Nathan Barley.  I remember not liking the first Brasseye much, but now it's one of my favourite episodes.
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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2005, 05:54 PM »

Having missed the first episode due to suddenly having a social life, I saw this week's (the second), due to having suddenly lost said social life.

Not sure about it really.  I work in that side of things and have met some Barley-like people.  I've followed his adventures in TVGoHome religiously.  But I realised a few minutes in that the 2 guys from that weird bbc2 zoo program play the leads.  They are just a couple of surreal zoo-keepers in my head now, which makes it a bit difficult since Nathan Barley is supposed to be a character driven sitcom, not straight satire.

For reference, I refer to a compilation of the Nathan Barley bits from TVGoHome, which just drips vemon, probably in a way that not even Chris Morris could get away with on screen.  Possibly NSFW, if only for endless repitition of the c-word.
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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2005, 09:13 AM »

Watched 20 mins of the second episode, seemed alright but didnt keep my interest much.
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« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2005, 09:53 AM »

It's definately not up to Morris' usual standard, but then it's the first sitcom he's worked on. And let's face it Nathan Barley is Charlie Brooker's baby, not Morris'. In fact, Brooker is heavily influenced by Morris and this is a good exmaple of what happens when the influence and the influemced work together.

Morris directs, something he's not especially good at and I rather suspect his name on the writing credits is more to do with his backing of Brooker than their full on writing partnership.

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True. It's easy to forget that Brass Eye, my favourite Morris work, was co-written with the brilliant Peter Baynham who is probably Morris' best foil. On The Hour featured many contributors including the vastly underrated Lee and Herring and of course topical humour God Armando Ianucci. Linehan and Mathews also contributed material to pretty much all of Morris' TV work.

I can't help but feel that Morris really needs these guys to write with in order to keep his own material in check. Helping Brooker with his Morris influenced writings is only going to show brief flashes of brilliance at best, which it has. Trouble is that the whole thing slumps when Dan Ashcroft isn't on screen and Nathan Barley resembles a bad David Brent impersonation far too often for my liking.

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The first series sometimes struggled to fill it's 15 minutes (and the 30 minute "Calcium" episode was fucking awful) so god only knows what the hell the BBC were playing at commissioning half hour episodes. The repetition of first series jokes got old quickly too.

Good news though, Operation: Good Guys has finally got a DVD release date! Hurrah! Now for People Like Us Series 2 and Garth Marenghi's Darkplace and we're sorted.
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