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« Reply #660 on: November 04, 2009, 09:58 AM »

Here's an interesting article on this subject:

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/DMN-Kokinis-never-had-a-chance.html

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The Patriots under Mangini in 2005 gave up too many big plays down the field and were so poorly synchronized that head coach Bill Belichick was forced to take over the defense in mid-stream. Every time Mangini was given more responsibility in New England, he was not successful. Conversely, every time Josh McDaniels’ role was increased, he kept getting more and more successful. However, in spite of Mangini’s bad year, he was rewarded with a head coaching job based on Tannenbaum’s recommendation. Now, is that being lucky? (And the Browns never considered McDaniels for the job, so clearly, the advice and counsel around Lerner is not of the highest professional football quality.)
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« Reply #661 on: November 04, 2009, 10:32 AM »

Consistency is great, and I love that the Rooney family has stuck with coaches when they have struggled (Cowher's 5-11, then 6-10 run) because they believe they can coach, and that's paid off in spades with titles. On the other hand, all three of those coaches has won a Super Bowl. It's easy to stick with a guy that's talented and, as such, winning. Chuck Noll took home four titles, and got his first division win in his third or fourth year. The Steelers had one of the best, if not possibly the best, overall record in the NFL in the seasons of Cowher's term, and took home tons of division titles and a couple SB appearances. They had some Championship Game woes, but then again, they also had Neil O'Donnell and Kordell Stewart, so there was only so much blame that could go on Cowher for that. Tomlin won one in his second year.

Teams with consistent coaching tend to win, but that's because as a general rule, teams that win keep their coaches. Now, I don't think if a team brought in a new talented regime every three years it would be as good as just keeping one good regime for a decade, but I think that team would still be winning a fair amount of games more than Cleveland has. The Browns problem isn't just that they keep changing their staff, it's that they keep changing their staff to new people that aren't any better than the old guys.

EDIT: And, after Romeo's brilliant run, and Mangini's not so great start (and, lest you forget, Bellichek himself being terrible in Cleveland) how mad must they be watching Bellichek-disciple McDaniels actually working out in Denver.

I think the most important part of any owner's job is hiring the right people. You can spend millions and millions of dollars on players, but if your coach has no clue what he is doing, then your team is going to suck (See Chargers, San Diego). The reason the Steelers have been such a model franchise is that Rooney and his people who do the hiring know what to look for, like you said, it's easy to stick with a coach when he's doing a good job, the key is to hire the person who will do a good job first, and not have to fire them after two years. The problem that teams like the Browns have isn't that they keep turning over coaches/GMs, the problem is that every time they have a vacancy at one of those spots, they invariably hire the wrong guy.
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« Reply #662 on: November 04, 2009, 12:46 PM »

Man, Chris Chambers must be wondering what the hell happened to his career right now.
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« Reply #663 on: November 04, 2009, 07:38 PM »

So, having massive biceps doesn't automatically make you the best WR in football?
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« Reply #664 on: November 04, 2009, 08:53 PM »

If that were true David Boston would be a Hall-of-Famer.
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« Reply #665 on: November 05, 2009, 12:36 PM »

So the Chargers release Chambers so they could free up some cash and shore up their line after taking some key injuries including Tim Dobbins on Sunday against the Raiders and we lost Hardwick at the beginning of the season. Also we have Kevin Burnett out as of this week, Ogemdi Nwagbuo, and safety Steve Gregory.

So we got extra cash flowing around now. So now would be the good time to start scouting for some free-agents for our offensive or defensive line. Oh, what's that? Just pull someone off the practice squad and call it good? Yeah sure, why not. Good job Turner.

I understand that it's kind of a tough deal to bring someone into your plan half-way through the season, and I can understand pulling up a player from your practice squad to help, but seriously what are they thinking? Everything I have read makes it seem as though they have no intentions of signing anyone else this season from free-agency.

It scares me thinking that we have to play the Giants next and our offensive line is shit. We can't open up holes for our running backs, but they seem to be able to open up great holes for the defense to be able to get in and sack Rivers. Also, on top of not having a running game this year, we can't stop the run for shit either.

I always try to stick it out and just say things will get better, but with the decisions Norv Turner has made over the past year along with A.J. Smith, I'm really starting to doubt the Chargers coaching staff. I hate to jump on the bandwagon here, but why in the hell don't we bring back Schottenheimer?
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« Reply #666 on: November 05, 2009, 01:24 PM »

Apparently Denver's mile-high altitude almost killed Steelers safety Ryan Clark a couple of years ago.

I don't recall hearing anything about this story when it happened.  I hope they keep him out of Monday night's game.
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« Reply #667 on: November 05, 2009, 02:04 PM »

If that were true David Boston would be a Hall-of-Famer.

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« Reply #668 on: November 05, 2009, 03:16 PM »

So, having massive biceps doesn't automatically make you the best WR in football?

No, but surely running a 4.3 40 does, right?
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« Reply #669 on: November 07, 2009, 02:10 AM »

Apparently Denver's mile-high altitude almost killed Steelers safety Ryan Clark a couple of years ago.

I don't recall hearing anything about this story when it happened.  I hope they keep him out of Monday night's game.

Yeah, I really hope they do to. It really hit home for me because I ruptured my spleen a few years back playing college sports and ended up losing 50% of my blood and nearly dying. Scariest experience ever, having an injury like that is, to me, on an entirely different plane than anything else. The guy has a family and a long life to live, no risk putting that on the line for a football game that is in retrospect meaningless.
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« Reply #670 on: November 08, 2009, 01:19 PM »

Dear God,

In preparation for today's dose of NFL action, please tie the Colts' offensive line's shoes together, and please afflict the entire Eagles roster with a sudden onset of a hellacious break out of firey painful herpes. Also, if You could get around to that whole "give me super powers and a Case O' Endless Strippers" request I put in, I'd appreciate it. I made that request back when I was six, so I think I've been more than patient.

Peace out.

Amen, and GO COWBOYS!
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« Reply #671 on: November 08, 2009, 01:58 PM »

So Peyton Manning attempted 25 passes...in the first quarter.

Good God. I'd like to see him actually throw it 100 times.

Oh, and DBB? E-A-G-L-E-S! Eagles!
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« Reply #672 on: November 08, 2009, 02:14 PM »

When did the Ravens become so terrible? Is that a new thing?
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« Reply #673 on: November 08, 2009, 03:15 PM »

This is my first cowboys game to retire my dexter coakley jersey and put on my new demarcus ware jersey.  Today will determine for all time whether it is a "lucky" jersey or merely an article of clothing.  It is a momentous day.
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« Reply #674 on: November 08, 2009, 03:32 PM »

They replaced the Bears/Cardinals game with the Bucs/Packers game on television here in Philly, because the Bears were doing such a shitastic job. 

Normally I'd be in a really pissy mood and extremely disheartened with the lack of a Bears defense showing up today.  But I'm actually a bit proud.  Because Tommie Harris totally punched a dude named Deuce in the face on the fourth play.  Initially I was angered and thought it was a moronic move by Harris, as he got ejected from the game and set the shitty tone for the defense.  But he punched a guy named Deuce in the face.  So I guess I'll take this loss in stride. 
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« Reply #675 on: November 08, 2009, 03:55 PM »

Yeah I think the Bears are going to contribute three straight blowouts to the new blowout trend. One in their favor and two against.

Weird league.
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« Reply #676 on: November 08, 2009, 04:21 PM »

Aaron Rodgers sacked six more times. Holy shit.
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« Reply #677 on: November 08, 2009, 04:23 PM »

And the Packers give the Bucs their first win.

Wow.
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« Reply #678 on: November 08, 2009, 04:23 PM »

Aaron Rodgers sacked six more times. Holy shit.

By a defense that only had 11 sacks TOTAL all year.
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« Reply #679 on: November 08, 2009, 04:26 PM »

Is there any way that Green Bay can just cut the whole offensive line and sign practice unit guys? because there isn't any way they can do any worse than this.

Also, Tampa looked great in their throwbacks.
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