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« on: July 26, 2008, 02:22 AM »

Yes humanity is evolving, with the help of drugs, environment and daily life.

Evolution depends on what we are doing right now.

Example

If everyone would weight lift and get muscles, by year 3000 every human being would have super strength.

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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2008, 02:37 AM »

Yes humanity is evolving, with the help of drugs, environment and daily life.

Evolution depends on what we are doing right now.

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If everyone would weight lift and get muscles, by year 3000 every human being would have super strength.



Sorry, but bullshit. Bench pressing three hundred doesn't affect your genes. And it isn't gaurenteed that you have the right genes in the first place to even achieve outstanding physical strength. As I understand it, what you'll pass down to your children is essentially hardwired at birth (with your children being a mix of your genes and those of the other parent). Barring something drastic, like being blasted by radiation, there's very little you can do in your lifetime to change what you'll pass on.

While I do think being affluent in the future will give you material benefits, I don't think it will lead to fragmentation of speciazation of the human race, simply because not enough people will be receiving modification. There'll be relatively small groups who are substantially different than the normal human genepool, but there simply won't be enough of them to affect widespread genealogical changes. In all likely hood they'll breed amongst themselves into a genetic dead end. So yes, there will be possibly numerous groups of 'enhanced' individuals, but they'll be so outnumberd by the unmodified masses to not really count as seperate species.
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2008, 02:45 AM »

Physical changes affect evolution.

Giraffes for instance have long necks because of excessive stretching of their necks for reaching leaves from tress.

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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2008, 03:26 AM »

He is right, it's how evolution works.

When my grandfather tried to fuck his overweight grandmother, his feeble, unevolved penis could not penetrate through the blubbery folds.

I evolved to have arms on my penis so they may push the folds back when I fuck his mother.
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2008, 03:30 AM »

Why did your grandfather try to fuck your great great grandmother?
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2008, 03:30 AM »

Masamune, don't listen to the unscientific minds. This is good science, but people always want to see proof before they'll consider something.

I propose that you do an experiment to prove this to them. You can start by stretching your neck upwards everyday for a few hours. Be sure to take measurements of your neck's current length and measure it after each session. Take pictures and videos to document the process and have at least 3-4 people monitoring you constantly. Doctors are trustworthy and will have scientific backgrounds so you should use them as your monitors.

It would probably be best if there were no distractions either, so you could go to the hospital, the doctors are already there after all. Get a room, preferably a single occupancy one. Make sure it's a comfortable room and has adequate insulation and padding.

Then you can go and conduct your tests day and night and report back with your findings in a few months.

Don't worry, I'll wait for you right here.
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2008, 03:32 AM »

I think the only real way to truly test this would be to have a baby before and after the experiment and see which child's neck is longest.
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2008, 03:33 AM »

Why did your grandfather try to fuck your great great grandmother?

Because I'm retarded and didn't evolve with the ability to properly use pronounse and antecedents.
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2008, 03:34 AM »

Ryanx, It must've been hard for you to sit by and watch that upstart, Darwin, come by with his oh-so-precious theory of "natural selection" and undo your years of hard work, taking all the fame and riches and science groupies that should have been yours.

Ryanx--or should I say, Lamark!
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2008, 03:37 AM »

Skeletonic, I have used a highly advanced computer program to create a rendering of what I believe you will look like when you are 80 years old.















Be warned, this image may be shocking to some viewers, especially young children.




















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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2008, 03:40 AM »

Well, Remington, if your machine was so smart it would know I don't like sprinkles on my ice cream.
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2008, 03:45 AM »

Those aren't sprinkles. They're evolution.
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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2008, 03:45 AM »

The ice cream is for the children
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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2008, 03:50 AM »

I must have switched to ice cream around my early sixties, when news papers were replaced by information being beamed from satellites directly into your mind. A shame, as I probably sure did...or will...miss those paperboys.

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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2008, 03:52 AM »

Physical changes affect evolution.

Giraffes for instance have long necks because of excessive stretching of their necks for reaching leaves from tress.



You don't...actually believe that, do you? I mean, all joking aside, seriously? I will assume that you...actually believe that.

Giraffes wouldn't evolve to have longer necks because of stretching, they would evolve to have longer necks because ones who's necks are longer would be the ones passing on their genes. This is because, despite what many experts may purport, longer is, in fact, better. Females are more attracted to length and size in general making them less willing to mate with and more willing to mock those giraffes who are not endowed with decent length. When longer-necked giraffes have babies, they pass on their genes and their kids have longer necks. This would continue over the years, each generation being born with long and longer necks while all those poor, shorter giraffes wallow in their loneliness and die out with no heir to carry on their name or their weak, pathetic genes.

That's a, uh, pretty basic explanation using an example that I...guess you are familiar with. Look here if you want more information and if you ever plan on joining into a discussion on this subject again, I really suggest you read it.
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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2008, 04:03 AM »

blemm - You're on the right track, but it's mostly a food thing. If the only available sustenance was 10 feet high, only the animals with necks long enough would be able to eat. The rest would die, unable to pass their genes. It's possible there were other species similar to giraffe, but died out because they were simply shorter and in an area with very high food supplies. Natural selection is more like the process of taking 1000 species, and weeding out all of the ones that can't escape predators or can't eat a suitable food until there are only 25 species left that form an equilibrium in nature.

ryanx - To put it simply, your genes ARE hardwired at conception. You cannot exercise and expect your child to be strong. Strong parents have strong children because their genes predispose them to it, not because they work out. I strongly suggest you do some research.



Also, balls.

With sprinkles.
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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2008, 04:07 AM »

Long ago, there was a giraffe named Emma.  Emma was quite a nice giraffe.  All of the animals in the jungle liked her.  The only problem with Emma was that she was gullible.  She believed everything the animals said.  Emma was being tricked by the other animals in the jungle.

    One sunny day, Tweety and Sweety, told Emma that they had blue, red and gold striped eggs in their nest.  Emma couldn't quite see into the nest so she stepped on a big rock next to the tree.  When she finally saw the eggs, they were not striped but white.

    Emma was sad when she went to get down from the tree.  All the animals in the jungle told her stories that were lies.  As she was stepping her neck got stuck in between two branches.  She tried to get it out by pushing and pulling but it wouldn't give.

    Ebby, the monkey, was walking by when he saw Emma pushing and pulling and grunting and groaning.

    "Hey, Emma!  Do you need some help?,"  Ebby asked.

    Emma grunted, "Yes I sure do.  My neck is stuck and I can't seem to get it out!"

    Ebby grabbed Emma's legs and started to pull.  It wasn't working so he pulled harder and harder.  He decided he would go and get King Kong, the ape, because he was the strongest animal in the jungle.

    King Kong came and he pulled and pulled.  He finally got Emma's head out of the branches but when Emma turned around, his neck had stretched.

    Ebby, King Kong, Tweety and Sweety stood staring at Emma.  They couldn't believe their eyes.  His neck was long enough to reach the green, yummy leaves at the tops of the trees.  He could now see things that he couldn't see before.  Emma became a very important because she was now able to help animals that got stuck in high places.

    Every giraffe in the jungle admired Emma and her long neck.  They all went to the giraffe stretching tree to stretch their necks with the help of King Kong and that is how the giraffe got his long neck.

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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2008, 04:15 AM »

So, is Emma is a hermaphrodite giraffe?

That would probably make the most sense anyways. If Emma were to mate with a giraffe that hadn't met King Kong and hadn't had their neck stretched, who knows what horrible half-breed would have been created.
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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2008, 04:27 AM »

My favorite part was when Emma "stretched" her "neck" she grew a penis.

Bakudai is the best storyteller.
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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2008, 04:33 AM »

Like all great storytellers I stole it from children and gave them no credit.
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