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« Reply #60 on: December 19, 2008, 05:34 PM »


Your staff might be busy but I find it hard to believe no one could run through a couple times a day and have staff favorites

As already stated four posts above yours, the editors do go through the craptions and pick their favorites. These are put in the round-up every Sunday.
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« Reply #61 on: December 20, 2008, 05:15 AM »

So, I suggest that there is no easy fix to some of the problems people have but that doesn't mean you just give up. There are some solutions that wouldn't tear your asshole out.  So, I think you guys are a little glib in response to the feedback.  I am sure you guys have heard all of these complaints several times and it gets old, but that could be a reason to find a few simple fixes.  If you addressed some of these problem more than declaring it an unprecedented juggernaut than maybe people would shut the fuck up.  If craption is this big in its' current state then maybe it could grow even faster than it already has been.

Have you even read the bit in the responses where they say they've been doing this for more than 8 fucking years now and have tried many different ways to address the issues?

There is not a perfect way to rank entries that everyone is happy with. This is pretty much the nature of all voting systems. What is it you're looking for? Is it that the best craption always wins? Then tough shit, "best" in this case is subjective. Is it as chance to see a round up of the "best" craptions? Then see the round up every Sunday. Is it that you want the "best" craption in your view to win? Then do you know what you can do? Read every fucking craption yourself, pick a winner, print it out, write "Winner" on top of it, frame it and put it on your bathroom wall because it's just a goddamn game!

Your staff might be busy but I find it hard to believe no one could run through a couple times a day and have staff favorites or delete some obvious shitty comments.  I can't tell you how to fix craptions but I know there are things you can do to make it better.  Why?  Because I believe in you David Wong but I believe even more in the power of Prince's Wang

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« Reply #62 on: December 20, 2008, 05:18 AM »

I think that while it is true that it is hard to please everyone you must have some quality controls.  Why even have rules if it is just a free for all? What is the point of even producing something if all it accomplishes is traffic. 


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« Reply #63 on: December 20, 2008, 05:21 AM »

Mods, please merge all craption voting system complaining threads here.
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« Reply #64 on: December 20, 2008, 08:36 PM »

There is definitely a bias that the earlier you post your craption, the more votes you get. 

One idea to prevent this is to randomize the order the craptions appear in for the first hour or two, rather than ordering them by vote # as they currently are. 
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« Reply #65 on: January 07, 2009, 03:39 PM »

Yeah, I thought that if the craption ordering was random each time, WITHOUT  the voting showing until the end of the contest, someone may read down lower to look for better ones.  This will also prevent the first few or the earliest from automatically getting the most votes.  This will surely not have everyone's favorite winning each time, but may help the best rise to the top of the voting?

When I read down far and reach some funny ones, I don't even bother voting because even though the contest only started 20 minutes prior, there is no way they can make up the deficit. 

And there have been times when it was an HOUR later that I think of my best one. 
 
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« Reply #66 on: January 07, 2009, 04:27 PM »


  I noticed that on January 3rd the winning craption came out of nowhere to win the contest.  I'm not sure when it was submitted, but it had to be over a couple of hours after the contest had begun.  I think that if you vote up a craption that you like, it becomes more visible and other people are more likely to see it.  Maybe the problem is with the voting system, but it can't be solved by not voting for craptions that you think are funny!
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« Reply #67 on: January 09, 2009, 04:46 PM »

I recently suggested a few improvements to the craption system and was pointed to this thread.  I would love a summary of what has been tried.  The Cracked staff has been pretty impatient with most well-meaning suggestions.  As has been stated, this has been going on for eight years and I can understand that you think you've tried everything, but maybe you missed a good idea. 

Care to put together a doc with each tactic tried, why it didn't work?  Everybody who comes to bitch about the system can be pointed to the doc and told - Think we haven't tried it?  Check out this, bitch!

You seem to think that because you have great traffic, nothing can be improved.  Hey, I love the craptions and continue to post despite the futility of trying ten minutes after the contest opens, but the experience is frustrating and could be improved.  Why do you hate freedom?
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« Reply #68 on: January 13, 2009, 10:08 AM »

We do explain to people why their suggestions don't work, but most of the complaints in this forum are from people who are too self centered to read what others have to say; they are convinced that their way is the right way, that their sense of humour is the only sense of humour and that everything else is deeply flawed. Bearing this in mind, it's not surprising to find that their "well-meaning suggestions" really only benefit the person who suggests them.
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« Reply #69 on: January 14, 2009, 04:54 PM »

That's a completely fair response and I understand the kind of frustration you must endure from countless people screaming, "I'm funnier than everybody else, why don't my craptions do better?!!!"

That said, I don't really see any information anywhere that says - "we tried y and it didn't work because of x."

I can understand why you wouldn't be interested in putting together a FAQ on why the craption contest is set up the way it is, but I do feel it might help you in the long run for several reasons:

1)  It would be a convenient place to send people with their moronic complaints. 
2)  It would be a place where people could check to see if you've tried their moronic idea.
3)  It would be a place where Cracked could remember what moronic ideas have been tried and why they're moronic.
4)  As I said, there exist some possible non-moronic ideas out there that would help the contest.  If people knew what HADN"T been tried, they may be able to come up with something that would actually help. 
5)  It's frankly a bit insulting when you reply to suggestions with a simple, "We've tried everything, we're not interested in your likely moronic suggestion."  Prove to me that you've really tried it and that you're not just being lazy, self-satisfied and moronic. 
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« Reply #70 on: January 14, 2009, 05:04 PM »

1) It would be a convenient place to send people with their moronic complaints. 

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« Reply #71 on: January 15, 2009, 04:07 AM »

That said, I don't really see any information anywhere that says - "we tried y and it didn't work because of x."

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Prove to me that you've really tried it and that you're not just being lazy, self-satisfied and moronic. 

Cracked doesn't owe you anything.  Go away.
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« Reply #72 on: January 16, 2009, 05:23 PM »

Awesome.  Stay Classy, Remington. 
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« Reply #73 on: January 16, 2009, 05:50 PM »

He won't treat you like a bitch if you stop whining like one.
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« Reply #74 on: January 24, 2009, 05:20 AM »

Hey Cracked editors, why don't you put way more effort into creating an endlessly convoluted voting system with no pay raise or recognition in order to pander to the smallest minorities in an attempt to create a slight improvement in a contest that seems to be flourishing wonderfully at its current setup.
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« Reply #75 on: January 27, 2009, 09:27 PM »

well it kinda suks because even if we came uo with a good idea, it either wouldn't be change to that idea or it would but the guy who changed ti would tweak the original idea which would piss ever1 off
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« Reply #76 on: February 05, 2009, 01:36 PM »

I'll throw my 1/50th of a dollar in to join the whining.

I'm off today but typically when I'm at work I can't access the site because our IT people are anal like that.

By the time I get home the contest is 3.5 hours old and by the time I get done with the family stuff it is typically at least 5 hours after the contest began before I can get on the PC for anything.  Frankly there is little chance even if I were funny enough to be on the staff of David Letterman or Jay Leno that I could garner more than a few votes because I doubt many people are going to go through the entire hundred or so to get to my craptions so I rarely submit one.

That stated 99% of the time I don't care but the remaining 1% of the time I do come up with something that I think is at least funny enough for people to see and vote on that is original.

But it's not my site and I'm not moving or getting a new job so I live with this and just take it to heart that so what, it's not like Mariah Carey is gonna show up at my door and give me a blowjob or Bill Gates is gonna pay off my mortgage anyway so I just live with the satisfaction of knowing that I came up with what I, in my own opinion about my own work, was funnier than anyone elses.

I just wanna say thanks to those that do make me laugh including the staff who puts up with our whining.
   
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« Reply #77 on: February 20, 2009, 06:02 PM »

YO WHAT THE FUCK!?!? I had TWO Craptions with 33 votes and now I look and they're both down to 21! HOW the bloody fuck does that happen? WHINE WHINE WHINE WHINE WHINE WHINE WHINE
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« Reply #78 on: February 23, 2009, 07:51 AM »

Todays winning (so far) craption has quite a lot of votes, so I'm guess its because people agree with it (unless there is a joke there that I'm not clever enough to understand). Was wondering if that really is a high number, like percentage wise, of the votes. I know David mentioned craption submissions are up in their thousands each month, but I'm guessing some of those are from the same users submitting more than one, and I'm pretty sure not everyone votes for craptions that make them laugh.

I'm only curious to know if it really is just the minority of craptioneers that have issues with the system as has been claimed on this thread, or if it is in fact the majority. Just because people don't bitch about it, that doesn't mean they don't have a problem.

Also I was wondering if you guys are going to let todays one win, since it doesn't refer to the actual picture.
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« Reply #79 on: February 23, 2009, 09:41 AM »

I'm surprised they let that one live for so long.  Maybe the mods took the weekend off.  I'm sure it'll be deleted. 

I think 500+ votes for a caption that complains about the system is ample evidence that there can be improvements made.  Again, I would recommend to Cracked that they put together a craption contest FAQ to answer these complaints because, apparently, they've already looked into solutions like the one proposed in Sunday's contest.

That said, I'm sure the usual, 'the contest is more popular than ever and that says to us that everything is pretty much perfect' excuse will win the day.
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