The Torture Debate (As a Batman Comic)
On May 21, President Obama and Dick Cheney faced off on the issue of torture with back-to-back speeches. With the respect due to such an important topic, I've faithfully transcribed the speeches here in the form of a high-action comic adventure.
Dick Cheney is to Penguin what the Pope is to Emperor Palpatine.
ReplyThis has inspired me. I now know how to get my cat down from that tree.
ReplyI was just aimlessly strolling the grocery store while hungry, and caught myself adding frosting to the basket. No cake; just frosting. I put it back.
ReplyI did buy cheese, though. I AM from Wisconsin, after all.
Nuclear times spiders! WARK! XD
ReplyDick Cheney, superc**t! Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No it's a cold, heartless motherf**ker who would probably go down on your dog if it would give Halliburton a bit more dollar.
ReplySay what you want but you pay him to torture people (or rather order the torture) so you don't have to do it yourself. Even if only by accident or ignorance, you are still directly responsible. It's alright judging things when your truly neutral and impartial but you aren't, nor are you, or any of us, privy to all the relevant facts.
I have no idea how I missed this, I just know that there is more joy in my heart than there was five minutes ago. Cheers!
Replyyou could be having some Problems with your internet site I'm guessing, or it may be my browser, the fonts are HUGE!, great post btw.
Reply[...] foolishly (and drunkenly) buy ‘Bodies’ by Drowning Pool based on fond memories and this [...]
ReplyThe last panel hurt my brain for a second there.
ReplyAnd personally? I think suicide bombing is a coward's way out. And the Koran explicitly forbids suicide. Remember folks: Al-Quaeda is a Muslim group, like how the KKK is a Christian group.
We could sum up this entire page, comments and all with this:
ReplyMental torture =/= inhumane
Physical torture = inhumane
Terrorists =/= Evil people
terrorists = Devoted people.
And yes, I AM defending their actions.
Why did this seem like it these peronas fit so well....?
Reply*tries not to fall off her chair as she laughs*
ReplyI'm sending your page off to all my friends!
@ Jack:
ReplyMost suicide bombers, and those sympathetic with them know full well that Islam/Qur'an says it is evil to kill innocents during war, but support it anyway from a twisted sense of desparate bravery when faced with superior numbers and fire power. This attitude comes from old local tribalism mindsets, not religion.
"Electric dick clamp workers" lol
Reply@Batzarro - That's not necessarily the case. Not all suicide bombers are poor people who are just taken in by terrorist organizations which give them food, etc. A lot of them believe in this stuff their entire lives, and many of them are from relatively wealthy backgrounds. Just read a paper occasionally, you'll see that often when potential suicide bombers are arrested, they are very well educated, often middle class individuals, and just believe in, as you phrased it, a purpose. Often it's religious reasons, which they've either converted to when they've become disillusioned with life and want to believe there's something more, or they've had the views ingrained in them due to their early socialization. Not all terrorists are poor, and they don't all just live on the streets - there are much deeper reasons for it. Also, on the Palestine reference, Palestinians are usually separatists (e.g. Hamas), and are fighting for their own state free from israel. The kind of terrorists who usually attack targets in America or Europe are the religious types, who are fighting just because they believe Allah wants them too. You can't lump all terrorists in like that.
ReplyOkay, I've read too many stupid statements regarding how terrorists are born, and I think I should pitch in.
ReplyImagine if you had nothing but some filthy rags. Sounds scary, right? Sleeping on the streets, living of scraps. Then some guys come along. They tell you you're life sucks because of THEM and points to some guys in a military base. These guys give you two things: food and a "purpose". The purpose is, of course to blow yourself based loosely on some scriptures and some leaders who claim to be in the know of the wills of God. Think about it: You have no life to lose!
Again, I am not trying to justify their actions. Just that suicide bombers are poor, illiterate people without any hope for a good life who are roped in by leaders into doing their dirty work. It's more complicated than it might seem. I doubt most of these poor bastards actually know what America is, or plan to build a little cottage in Palestine.
Yog-Sothoth, I do love me a challenge.
ReplyIt's easy. International laws already covered that it's eillegal to proceed in such a manner.
And besides, do you think a government that allows torture will stop at the foreigners? You want to know how that ends? With the country's very people being tortured or "disappearing", like in Chile during Pinochet's reign. It's a short step from "protecting the citizens" to "protecting my own power and interests". Although if you really believe any of what happened during the Bush years was for your benefit, then you weren't paying attention.
In essence, even if you can say, "go ahead, torture them guys" you are giving them the key to eventually torture YOU as well. Or do you think Hitler started his speeches by saying "I'm a murderous, power hungry bastard!" No, it always starts by saying this will be good for you. Then before you know it you're own liberties and personal life are affected.
Frosting and cheese? C'mon - thats fcking hilarious!!! (not sarcasm).
ReplyPlus the random "warks" to rep penguin noises that Cheney makes were funny too as well as the way the writer made Cheney say nonsensical phrases as a way to parody the intelligent sounding nonsense that the real Cheney used to justify everything BushCo did.
Regardless of whether waterboarding is torture or not, the bottom line is that simply HOLDING many of the people in Gitmo, that we have held in the last several years, is a form of torture and is one of the most reprehensible acts that America has ever committed. The idiot Repubs claim to be for family, but then are willing to tear Muslim innocents from their own families on scanty or non existent evidence.
ReplyFurther, as an EMT, you should know that most Americans will likely die from heart disease related complications rather than a terrorist attack, and that the US Govt in the last few years has made far too big a deal about terrorism than it actually is. India, the UK, and many other countries deal w/ terrorism in a far more calm manner than Americans do and they are better for it.
I'm not going to debate the minute points of BushCo policy on terrorism, but I think that they fail to understand it, or failed, I guess I should say, and their policy as a whole reflects that lack of understanding.
this has to be the most insane comic book attempt I've ever seen
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