How to Talk to Women (According to the Internet)
When readers send me questions for my column, probably the most common query is "You've never solicited questions from us and you don't post your email address so we couldn't possibly be asking you anything." The second most common is "Dan, I'm a shy, awkward (but all around nice) guy, but I'm TERRIBLE at picking up chicks. How does one talk to women?" That's a great question, All of You, and you've come to the right place. I don't want to toot my own massive genitals or anything, but I'm somewhere between an expert and a space doctor when it comes to Talking at Women.
Despite my considerable communicative superiority, I'm not too eager to share my lady-barking-related secrets with the world. My methods are my methods, they work because they're special, because they're uniquely catered to me and because I have lots of money. Still, I didn't want to leave readers' questions unanswered, so I decided to turn to the Internet, believing that enough deep-Googling should yield some thoughtful answers. Because no matter how bizarre, or pointless your needs are, the bottom line is you can find anything on the Internet. Anything. Yo. Anything.
So, here's what the Internet taught me about Talking At Women.
Preliminary Observations

This is what you're chasing after.
I consulted a lot of online How To guides in my quest for knowledge, and while they varied on a few details, the important thing upon which every site seemed to agree is this: Women are not like men or, indeed, any creature you've ever encountered. You need to learn a very specific way to talk to and handle a woman, it is a process. Don't treat them like you'd want to be treated, because they are mythical, mysterious biological abnormalities. Men feel anxiety around women, because they're so strange and foreign, which Seduction-Chronicles assures us is completely normal. You have every right to be scared.
SC reminds us that not every woman will be interesting in engaging in conversation with you for a variety of reasons.

There is nothing you can do about this, it's just how life goes.
Conclusion: If a woman refuses to talk to you, it's because the Woman is a fickle, unpredictable beast, and it has nothing to do with you, she's probably just in one of her four possible moods.If you DO get a woman to take notice of you (great job!), make sure you are always entertaining her. Bullz-eye tells us that a woman may get distracted and leave you for another man immediately if you're not "constantly increasing her attraction for you."
Conclusion: Women are like video games that get difficult with time and are incapable of leading a conversation.
Talking At Women
So you've approached your target and you haven't exceeded a four on the scale of creepiness (or else she would have alerted the authorities), and now you need something to say. We turn again to Seduction Chronicles for advice:

Plan your conversations in advance, people, it's, somewhat paradoxically, the only way to keep them from being stale. If you're boring, a woman will scamper off or perhaps wander into traffic.
Conclusion: Conversations aren't about give-and-take, and they're not about responding to what the woman is saying. Conversations are minefields. You wouldn't go into a minefield without a map and with your dick in your hand, right? Similarly, enter a conversation with a clear strategy and follow it no matter what. (Also don't have your dick in your hand.) Sometimes it helps to make a literal map, where you can follow the path of your ideal conversation (in black) and isolate certain problem areas (in red) that you know you want to avoid.

Bonus Fact: Incidentally, while a quick Google search of "How to Talk to Women" leads to page after page of guides designed to talk women into having sex with you with no variation, a similar search of "How to Talk to Men" leads to results that mostly center around talking to men in a way that makes them actually listen to you. It's a top search result because so many people are desperate to get a man to pay attention.

Not sure if that's relevant in any way, but neat, huh?
Topics of Conversation
What you talk about (music, movies, politics), can be just as important as how you talk (with racial sensitivity and without drooling, ideally).
Modern Man utilizes the "talk from your own perspective" technique, where instead of asking questions, you just tell interesting stories about yourself.

Conclusion: Talk about yourself incessantly? Pretend that "loving" something means you only do it twice? Eat too much ice cream? I don't know, this one's stupid.
Seduction Chronicles offers an alternate plan of attack. While they maintain that you must always have a plan, they do admit that there's a little room for ad libbing to keep a conversation fresh:

The author wisely suggest emulating Larry David, widely accepted as one of the most universally likable people on the planet.
"Oh, you work at the bank? That's cool. I was just thinking about how all women are liars."
"Drinking a margarita, huh? Typical women. But, hey, that's what happens when your brains are too small to appreciate whiskey, am I right? So what did you say your major was?"
"Oh, you beach girls. You know what I hear (wait two seconds) SKIN CANCER."
Cocky and Funny
It is a fact of nature that if you can make a woman laugh and you're not a total coward you can get laid with alarming regularity. A full head of hair, good hygiene, functioning legs; none of these matter if you're funny enough. Bill Murray could start growing a baby out of his face and he'd still never sleep alone if he didn't want to.
Every website picked up on the fairly obvious fact that humor and confidence are important, which isn't all that remarkable. It is odd, however, that they all specifically used the words "Cocky and Funny." The first time I read it, it didn't really register as weird, because those are two useful adjectives.

From SoSuave. Also from? The imagination of a person who has never actually met a woman.
"Be funny and cocky," that's sound advice. But then I saw the same phrase a few more times. No variation. None of the guides were saying "be confident" or "be hilarious" or "be slightly arrogant but with a good sense of humor." It was all "Cocky and funny," and a lot of guides used the words "the cocky and funny technique" as if that was a common phrase.
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From Seduction-Chronicles.

From Dating Class.

From Modern Man.

From Bullz-Eye.
I mean, hell, Google it.

Am I the only one who thinks this is weird that all of these different sites reference this "technique"? I know both of those words make sense, but since when did they become, like, a "thing"? Charming and handsome are also qualities that a woman will find attractive, but no one is tossing around the "Charming and Handsome" method.
Also, isn't it sort of presumptuous to call it a "technique"? The meanings of the words haven't changed for the technique, or anything, "funny" still means "funny." It's like someone's trying to patent a definition, like "The key to being successful with women is being a likable human being, or what I like to call, the 'Being a Likable Human Being Approach.' Try these state-of-the-art methods, I think you'll really be surprised."

At any rate, Cocky and Funny, or, "Cock-Fun," is what a lot of the more experienced Pick-Up Artists regularly engage in and is almost always effective.

Conclusion: Cocky and Funny are the only two qualities a woman responds to. Whether you're looking for some casual sex OR someone who will immediately daydream about introducing you to her parents upon first meeting you, Cock-Fun will get you there.
Conclusion Conclusion
So what did we learn from all of this? Mostly that women are not to be treated like people, they're to be treated like a code that can be cracked, a trick that can be learned or a piece of machinery that can be mastered, which is why there are so many manuals. Never assume that the rules of approaching and talking to a friend or relative also apply to the rules of approaching a woman. They don't. They're like aliens, and it's up to you to learn all of their tricks. They are fickle, confusing beasts with difficult, intimidating and sometimes, yes, scary genitalia. The vagina is like a Rubik's Cube, except you can't peel all the stickers off and cheat to win. (Unless- Ladies, is that- Would you be into that? In the your-vagina-is-a-Rubik's-Cube simile does sticker-rearranging correspond to something pleasurable?)

Conclusion: Seriously would you be into that?









OMG is that why I wonder into traffic all the time? Wait... no, no I don't. This article made me feel a bit scared of going to a bar. And Yes Dob... I WOULD be into that. :D
ReplyWhy don't people understand that theirs Emotional People and Unemotional People yet. Its 2011 Deep Thinkers and Jersey Shore Cast I mean The only problem is trying to find your opposite sex who is the same as you. The Deep thinkers want a emotional connection Sex is very good to a deep thinker it just happens on a deep level...Jersey Shore casts Want sex Without the emotional connection and with as many people.... I think the issue is Most girls now a days are becoming jersey shore cast members cause there is not as much deep thinking guys as there once was in the 60's :)
ReplyWhen She's so Heavy didn't mean that she was fat as hell
I hope all the people posting sexist comments are being sarcastic.
ReplySeems pretty legit. Many a time have I aimlessly wandered into traffic because I didn't have a man to entertain me. I'd get yelled at a lot by the drivers, that is until I told them what happened, then they'd take me into their home, play and snuggle with me like I was a little kitten in a box on the street. Good times.
ReplyI think I would get freaked out if someone trying to pick me up turned the conversation to how literally anyone could be a murderer. In any other circumstance (with friends, my parents, etc.) this would be an interesting topic, but I watch too many crappy crime shows, and my gut reaction would be the assumption that this is foreshadowing.
ReplyAnd please don't peel anyone's genitals, that sounds so very, very terrible.
My friends and I have read these manuals a thousand times over (and been on r/seduction) and the feelings felt toward them are always a weird mixture of outrage and fierce amusement. I've definitely thrown off a few guys by calling them out on their "negging," the douchebags.
ReplySeeing "cocky and funny" being used as a noun EVERYWHERE kind of freaked me out when I first noticed it. It was like everyone in the world suddenly decided to throw grammar away. It was like Invasion of the Bodysnatchers and all the aliens want to do is sound like creepy jerks on the internet.
So your saying all I have to do is embrace my inner doushebag, and sex will rain down upon me like...umm....rain? I bow to your googledge DOB
Replythatsthejoke.jpg
ReplyYes, the articles on picking up women are ludicrous, sexist, objectifying and dehumanizing. They are also completely correct.
Reply Hide All See All 4 RepliesInteracting with women isn't like interacting with a friend, because you both want something from each other. It's that simple. She wants validation and support, you want sex.
But don't men need validation and support? Yes. They can get that anywhere.
Don't women need sex? Yes. They can get that anywhere.
Unless you're in the top 5-10% of men in terms of appearance, you will never, ever get laid trying to talk to attractive women like you would any other person. You WILL accumulate a ton of female friends, which is awesome if you like listening to women you're into complain about the guys they're dating. Have fun being a masochist.
Maybe it's cause I'm a girl, but it seems you a prick. Not all men want sex, and we all have support and validation from friends and family.
You must be reeeaaalllly bitter.
seriously, this guy is f****n bitter
I would never give some guy that used a cheesy pre-planned conversation on me, or a pick up line, or anything that made me think he was looking for some girl and I was just the next one on his radar. However, if a guy came up to me and seemed genuinely interested, sincere and down to earth (although funny definitely does not hurt) I would at least entertain a conversation with you. No girl wants to be talked to for the sole purpose of sex, even if it's her sole purpose as well. The exceptions to this rule are like this only because they read just as many how-to manuals on how to meet guys, and think guys just want someone one dimensional. The worst thing to do if you are trying to meet someone is playing a game. No one wants to be a pawn, we all just want to be treated two ways 1) like we are special and 2) like we're human beings. I agree, you do seem bitter that you had too many girls treat you as a friend and you don't feel like you're in the top 5-10% - but do you really want to date someone who doesn't want to be your friend and gives you a number in accordance with your level of attractiveness? It sounds like either you or the girls you choose to date have something wrong here.
I agree with all of the above; I just thought I should add that another Cracked article mentions that while men typically rely on their significant other for support, women are more likely to have a varied social network consisting of family and friends. That's why breakups are generally harder on men.
It's not the most egregious mistake you made, for sure, but I figured it's worth mentioning anyway.
holy crap! so i decided to actually look up cocky and funny on google,because, you know..i'm bored.. open the first website and read the examples of what appears to be the biggest douche with a seriously stale sense of humor who is also desperate to get laid...and most likely never actually spoken to a woman.Example 3:
ReplyYou: Tonight is your lucky night
Her: Oh really? Why is that?
You: Because you finally got to go out with me
Her: Sure!
You: But no touching… I… do all the touching!
hahahahahahhaahahhahahahahha
one of the biggest things that is not being discussed is the state that you have to communicate for that to work properly. C+F can easily backfire and be perceived as cocky and not funny or just not funny (and thus bad)
Christ, it sounds like something a homeless guy yells at ladies at Union Square.
Best way to get me: let me know you're not interested in anyone else, that your attention is focused on me. I want to know that you're not juggling a few other women, that you're not planning on "picking the best one". If we don't hit it off, that's fine, move on to someone else... but while we're dating I want to be the only one you're dating at the time. Also, I totally go for the shy, awkward types... so cute and I love making the first move! Just saying, if I'm like that, then obviously these "tips" won't do crap for me. All women are entirely different. But the sluts with low self-esteem would probably fall for the cock-fun, so if you're looking for a drunken one-night-stand, well hell, that's the way to go!
ReplyShelaKay unfortunately there is a fundamental problem with "the best way to get you." Most guys WILL be interested in other women besides you. Most guys ARE or would LOVE to be juggling a few other woman and are DEFINITELY looking to pick the best one.
You ladies have to understand that there are guys who are looking for a relationship and guys who just want to have sex and I'll tell ya, it's usually the latter. That means that you also have guys that are in a relationship with you just to have sex with you and they deal with all your bull for just that reason. Women that think like this, that want these generally unrealistic ideas of monogamy and exclusivity with every guy they find attractive just hurt themselves because you'll just end up getting a guy that knows how to work that angle just to be inside you.
Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, most guys want the s**t with low self-esteem. Not to date. Not to take home to meet the parents but to have that drunken one-night stand you so aptly mentioned! All guys want sex with beautiful women, plural! And most guys want that sex hassle free! I don't know a single man that wouldn't love to walk into a room with a bunch of women they find the most attractive and be able to have their pick of them. And not to have good conversation with over dinner or to hold hands while walking on the beach or some other crazy nonsense. But to have sex with them! To be able to use their body in any and all ways they see fit until satisfied sexually! Most guys, not all.
Understand though that our desire to just have sex is not something we control but rather something that is just a part of every man. It's in our DNA. We were designed to want to have sex because of a species' need to procreate. Notice how your male dog(if you have one) loves to hump everything? Same thing! So you ladies who see guys that love to have sex with many different women in a negative way, look again. He's only doing what is natural, what his body commands. I say better the guy whose honest and open about it than the guy who isn't.
It would simply be much better for both sexes if we could all be a lot more honest about we want. If any guy could just walk into a bar, strike up conversation with a woman he's interested in, and then honestly tell her what his intentions are. I mean come on ShelaKay. You don't think some guy would tell you that he's not interested in anyone else and pretend to focus on only you just so he can get in your pants? And if he's good at it he'll do it, and you're screwed. He has to be dishonest with you to sate a desire that is embedded in his very being because you want exclusivity. I'm just saying you're setting yourself up for possible disaster.
...Okay, I was laughing at this article the entire time I was reading it, but it appears that the satirical nature of it was lost on some of the audience. ShelaKay, I agree with you entirely. I am so glad that I treated my wife right while we were dating, and can now enjoy a meaningful relationship. Otherwise, I might be at home, fantasizing about victimizing fragile women, much like Ralo29 appears to spend his time doing. While some men are certainly dirt bags and only think about using people, the majority of men are just as desperate for emotional connection as the majority of women are. Don't let a few miserable people ruin your worldview.
Yep, that's about right. I go home with every man that brings his own manual to a potential pick-up situation and then fumbles awkwardly through the pages mid-conversation.
Replyc**kiness is a huge turn off. Confidence, on the other hand...
Replyi find bill murray attractive...especially after he pleasured a lady with a spatula in stripes. classy bastard.
ReplyOne word to boost your confidence with women: Alcohol.
ReplyTwo words that can occur as a result of getting stoned: erectile dysfunction.
This is so sad. For men who actually listen to these, with the growing popularity of PUA - don't you think the girl you're going to introduce yourself to at a random bar/club may know of these so called techniques already? It just makes you look like a douche! Just be yourself and I'm sure you will meet someone who can appreciate you as you are.
Reply Hide All See All 7 Repliessorry baby... but that is science, the "c**ky and funny" works like a charm,
And looks a bit like cooking:
be nice, talk about her all the time and add a little alcohol to make things more interesting.
... how is the joke of the article seriously going over so many people's heads?
Debbb, the (apparently too subtle) argument here is that all this crappy "advice" is ludicrous, and you would probably be better off just treating women like, you know, people.
I think she realized that. She just finds it unbelievable that men actually listen to this kind of "advice".
Being yourself doesn't work anymore.
Kaori, dumbass, she knows the article is a joke, but many men do think this stuff works. Just look at the comment before me.
If being yourself doesn't work, then perhaps there's something wrong with yourself. Just saying.
Of course there is something wrong with yourself if you are resorting to this sort of stuff online... No one is a cool confident guy and thinks "the internet will make me even stronger!" It's people with no confidence who have no idea how to talk to women who go on these sites.
Probably because they are terrified of women after that one in high school they professed their undying love to set off their rape alarm...
Women are NOT a puzzle to be figured out! They are a complicated set of opinions and emotions that need to be carefully tricked into doing what we want them to!!
Reply Hide All See All 5 RepliesYay trolls.
I whole-heartedly agree with this statement. Women are malleable. They don't really think for themselves so it is up to you to hand-feed them new thoughts and ideas so they don't intellectually starve. I like to call it "the straight man's burden."
it's not like that... they are not pet, more like smart pets, cuz they have feeling and an opinion, BUT there is only HER opinion...
I'm a woman and I agree completely.
@RyanDay Your comment made me laugh so much. The straight man's burden indeed.
I clicked every syphilitic hell spawned link at the top of the article. Gods help me. Gods help me.
Reply Hide All See All 3 RepliesMy eyes bleed the colors that my mind vomits out in rejection of the creations of that most abominable species that is humankind.
You're telling me. I'm pretty sure that my computer has a virus. Isn't the best selling point about masturbating to internet porn is that it's virus-free? My computer now has Hepatitis C++.
When I clicked on the last link, it took my computer a few seconds to load the video, during which time I had time to look at the title and go through the following thought process: "Wait, Edarem? I remember that from somewhere. That's not a good thing." Then the creepy old man appeared and I remembered that he was some sort of pervert who was mentioned in another Cracked article. I cursed and hit the Back button as fast as humanly possible.
Stupid edit function. What I meant to say was: When I clicked on that last link, it took a few seconds for the video to load, which gave me time to look at the title and think: "Wait, Edarem? I've seen that before. That's not a good thing." Then the video started, and I remembered that Edarem was a scary old pervert who was mentioned in another Cracked article. I cursed and hit the Back button as fast as humanly possible.
c**ky and Funny always works. Women don't want to admit it, but it does. It doesn't mean talk about yourself the whole time, it just means show you have self-confidence and make her laugh. It's flawless. I picked through girlfriends like a buffet line until I found the one I liked. Took ten years because most of you talking vaginas are completely facking insane/stupid, but finally found one that isn't and we'll be married in June.
Reply Hide All See All 11 RepliesThe big problem here is that all women will say they hate this type of guy, but they always end up with him. Why? He's the one throwing the vibe.
This picture-perfect guy that most women look for is usually gay. They're basically looking for the gay man that happens to like women. What was it called for awhile there? Metrosexual? I don't know, sounds like you enjoy sex with subway trains to me.
Anyways, they're not always gay. Bigger problem is, when the women DO find that picture-perfect guy they always write poetry about, they 'don't want to ruin the friendship' and leave that poor bastard high and dry with a new female 'pal'. I was that guy for many years. I had a whole lot of female friends who consistently talked about how they want their man to be this and do that and cook and write poems and yada yada, and there I was! Right next to them while they said! Watching them climb all over the latest greased moron they found at the local dive bar and pretending not to care.
Then I switched and went with a persona who acts like he could care less about women talking to him. It's like a panty-magnet. Sorry ladies, but we already know what you'll never admit. This c**ky jerk crap is what gets you into the car.
I find that the best way to talk to women is to wear attire that clearly states the.....well, for a lack of a better term, size of the c**k. When women are subconsciously paying attention to the bulge in front of a guy's pants, the guy doesn't have to be c**ky and funny. This technique is not for everybody, though. The vagina is covered in sensitive nerves, and the more nerves that are stimulated by contact, the better the woman will feel. Sorry, inchworms; Too bad, centimeter peters; Out of luck, Brett Favre.
It however, is a proven fact that every million a guy makes equals a tenth of an inch of penis length perception to a woman. Did you know that Lamborghini is Italian for, "I have a small c**k"?
"Talking vaginas"? Wow. You're charming. Any woman who dates you is to be commended. Or possibly committed.
So wait, you were only "friends" with these women under the assumption that if you hung around them enough they would just decide to have sex with you? As opposed to being, y'know, an actual friend to them? You're right, I guess tricking women into sleeping with you IS an almost more honest way to go about it.
wrong MariK
I don't know if what kind of women you're hangin with, but I personally do not like the c**ky douche.
Sorry. Just a fact.
Of course you don't kaori. But you'll have sex with him because he's interesting, and he's convinced you that you somehow have "chemistry" together. Yes you'll go for the nice guy who writes you poetry as well, but you'll cheat on him. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but someday you will cheat on him, and it'll typically be with the arrogant douchebag you claim to dislike. Why? Because humans weren't meant to be monogamous. This is even more the case for women than it is for men You say you want to be in a monogamous relationship but what you really mean is that you want to cheat before he does. Because the minute some arrogant a*****e makes you laugh, monogamy flies right out the window for you, along with whatever clothes you happened to be wearing.
Wow Ryanday, I'll bet the women all make bedroom eyes at you as they chuck their drinks at you. Everyone who doesn't like you is in denial! Enjoy the death threats!
sounds like we have the classical 'nice-guy-turned-a*****e' situation going on here. let me guess, wolf: you were sick of your life as impotent loser who was only friends with girls in the hopes that one would pity you enough to sleep with you. then finding that women didn't like you 'like that' (because you're a sad loser) you left in frustration and began to hate women.
you then joined a pick up artist group or some other bulls**t, and began acting the dick finding this granted you the magical abilities to pick up ANY women (with a little help from rohypnol).
i really pity your soon-to-be wife, as she clearly hasn't clicked on to your bulls**t yet. that'll be a fun day when it happens!
What bigcat said. I'm with a guy who is CONFIDENT, not c**ky, and funny. He is usually not an a*****e, and when he is, I don't find it attractive. Most of the time he is super sweet and I can't keep my hands off him.
Hope your fiance doesn't read the comments at Cracked, because there are few faster ways to get rid of a lady than by calling her gender talking vaginas...
And you have the nerve to refer to women as "talking vaginas"? You are indeed a f*****g c**t
truefacts, this. the only way you can really go wrong on how to attract women, though, is to ask a woman what to do to attract women.
Replynope, worse is to ask a man
Actually, I would imagine that's not a terrible way to break the ice with a lady... I'm not sure she'd give great advice, though.