I like.

I also just became president of Canada, and created a new kind of fuel made entirely from rubber bands. Take my claims with a grain of salt, RIAA.

It’s actually called “infringement” not stealing. Stealing is a crime where you deprive somebody of their property with the intent of permanently depriving them of that property. Infringement is generally not a crime (though it can be in some cases not applicable here). More importantly, infringement does not deprive the rights holder of property with the intent to permanently deprive. The rights holder can still sell copies. You likely think that since the person “illegally downloaded” the song that they automatically owe the rights holder money, and depriving the owner of that money is stealing. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work that way.

Infringement is what it is. It isn’t piracy, it isn’t stealing, it isn’t theft, it isn’t murder, buggery, child rape or rancid cous cous. If you have to blatantly mischaracterize your own argument, that doesn’t bode well.

“It doesn’t cost them jack shit. People who download wouldn’t have bought it otherwise so no matter what, those people would not result in any additional sales one way or another. ”

How do you know this?, some people I know have downloaded stuff they wouldn’t have bought, but some people have downloaded stuff they would have payed for had the avenue of illegal downloads not been available to them. Copyright infringement can be defined as theft of intellectual property.

If illegal downloading does not hurt them a bit why are they making such a big deal about it, just to be dicks? The problem is they are trying to do business on a 20th century model in the 21st century. People aren’t playing they game the way they want to play it and they are to stupid to realize that they have to change .

Stealing, ie. theft is depriving the owner of, and the use of, property. That’s basically it. Tell me how MAKING A COPY of something deprives the owner of the use of that property? It doesn’t. They still have it and they can still sell it in stores. Hell, they are just selling a copy themselves! The original is in a big building somewhere locked in a vault. To steal it you’d have to break into said building and physically steal the reel (and any backups they may have of it).

It is inaccurate to call it stealing. It’s copyright infringement.

Also, they can make up any numbers they want and claim it cost them that much.

It doesn’t cost them jack shit. People who download wouldn’t have bought it otherwise so no matter what, those people would not result in any additional sales one way or another. So the loss is $0.00. They definitely sue for more than their actual damages…..

That is already occurring in Sweden mostly, with other European countries following suit. The bit torrent site “The Pirates Bay” is behind a lot of it. But you’re right there is no representation or organization of pirates in the USA and Canada. A lot of the best bit torrent sites have ,of their own accord, banned people from the USA and Canada from using their sites because of intimidation from the RIAA and the MPAA.