5 Ways You Know It's Time to Get Married
#2. Neither of You is in Debt to the Other
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It sounds superficial to say that finances play the second most important role in a marriage -- romantic types would say that if their love was so fragile that money could break them up, maybe they were doomed from the start. But if you don't get realistic about this right now, you're going to find yourself in the same situation I was in six years ago.
I was working a shitty job, my ex wasn't working at all. Our third and final child was just born, and we were going down the list of friends who could loan us enough money to keep the electricity on. That was a regular thing with us because not only did we live well below the poverty line, but we didn't know how to budget the little money we did have -- my idea of budgeting was making sure I had beer in the fridge at all times. But here's the thing; it wasn't the shitty house and car that put pressure on the relationship. It was the stress. The constant arguments, the constant assigning of blame.
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"Hey, unless you have a walkthru in that pile, you need to fuck right off."
The money just brought all of our mistrust into focus, this constant suspicion each of us had that the other one wasn't pulling their weight.
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"Pulling their weight." That's the problem.
Don't picture your relationship as two people pulling a wagon. It's like two legs carrying a person.
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... wait, what was I talking about? Oh yeah, legs.
If you break a toe, your legs don't have an argument about the fact that one of them is forcing you to limp. You just automatically change your stride and keep going.
It's hard as hell to get into the two legs mindset. If, say, you're working and the other one isn't, or if you're working more hours, it's easy to get to thinking that it's your money, like you're the father doling out an allowance, and that your significant other has to answer for every penny.
Or, you get into this bullshit math where you take home $500 a week and your girl or guy brings home $300. Your bills are $600. So, since you're using everything in the house equally, you split the bills down the middle, $300 apiece. Now she has nothing, and you have $200 left over, which you hold up in front of her, flipping the bills past your nose and sniffing deeply. "Mmmmm ... I sure do love the smell of sweet, sweet money. Bet you wish you had some."
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Though, honestly, it is pretty funny if you do it just the one time.
That's when money destroys relationships. When you're still thinking in terms of what's yours and what's hers, and what each of you have "earned" in money or time or unpleasant tasks that need doing. As long as you're keeping a separate score, you're still not thinking of yourselves as a couple. You're just roommates.
You have to get to the point where you can trust each other to draw from the same pool, and if the girl says she needs $50 worth of (vagina polishing cream? I don't know my girly products) that you trust she is being responsible. And when your job earns you some extra money in one particular week or month, you both get to decide how it's spent. Even if it was your working overtime that earned it. Otherwise, everything becomes a battle.
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"Hmmm ... well I did buy that whore yesterday, but to be fair, you bought dish soap last week."
In our case, when Emily moved in, she was coming from several states away. When she got here, it took her a couple of months to land a job. I had to carry us for a bit. And, maybe because I've been on the "carried" end so many times, I didn't feel the need to compile figures in a spreadsheet, figuring out what she "owed" me. I knew she would do the same if the roles were reversed. Hell, the roles could be reversed tomorrow. And she would step up.
But once you get into that bullshit of thinking the other "owes" you, that's a never-ending swirl down the drain. And again the debt isn't always about money, it can be because you did more chores last week, or changed more diapers, or you didn't jump down their throat when they forgot something important. Forget about which of you is in the plus column, the fact that you're keeping score at all means your relationship is already dead.
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"And with my dishes yesterday, that puts me two ahead. That means I get ass sex tonight."
#1. You Are Truly Grasping What "Forever" Means
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My doomed marriage didn't begin with a romantic gesture or a planned proposal. It was an ultimatum. She told me point blank one day, "If we're not married by July, I'm moving on." Back then, I didn't understand what "marriage" actually meant. Not really. To me, it was a ring and a piece of paper that said we were officially hooked up. I knew that if we didn't work out in that first year, we could always get an annulment. And if we lasted longer than that and ran into trouble, a divorce wasn't unheard of. In fact, it was pretty common.
So I did it. We went up to the courthouse and signed some paperwork. We paid a small fee. Then we met in the town park and had a quick five-minute ceremony in which four people attended. And just like that, we were married. Ten years later, I was sitting dumbfounded, alone in my new apartment, trying to figure out what went wrong.
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"What the hell just happened? And who shrunk my '80s TV?"
I wasn't exactly the type of person who planned years ahead for things, so there was never this clear idea of, "This is the only woman I'm going to be with until the day I die." It was just the next thing to do. When you've been with a girl for a while, you sign these papers and she changes her name.
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Imagine marriage didn't even exist as a thing. Like imagine you didn't live in a society where marriage is expected and where you continually get shit from people for not "tying the knot." Imagine all of those social pressures were gone, nobody was nagging you about it. Would you still make the promise to stay with this person forever? Are you getting married because you want to be married? Or just because that's what people do? A stunning number of marriages seem to happen because of the latter.
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"I just thought I looked pretty in the dress."
About a year ago, Emily and I discussed marriage, and I told her that under no circumstances did I ever want to go through that again. I had been down that road, and I couldn't imagine having to deal with all the bullshit a second time. We didn't fight or argue about it, but there was still a short time where I didn't know if she was going to wake up one morning, call it quits and move back home.
But she didn't. She thought it over for a few days and then told me that she was planning on staying with me forever, whether we got married or not. She respected my feelings and accepted my decision on the subject.
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She didn't even take a swing at me.
She made me realize that there exists a commitment so deep that some people are willing to bind themselves to its vows even without a piece of paper and a preacher to walk you through them. And I feel the same way she does. I mean, when you boil it right down to the basics, I'm committed to never cheating on her. I already love her, and I always will -- true, honest love isn't something that just dries up one day. I will always take care of her, no matter what the circumstance. I'm prepared to spend the rest of my life with her ...
... Oh. Well, I guess when I put it that way, I'm actually kind of surprised we aren't already married by now. I can be kind of a dumbass from time to time.
Emily Clark, will you marry me?
Update: She said yes. Which is a relief because it means I don't have to fist-fight her now.









If I don't find someone soon I will call on my two friends Smith and Weston.
ReplyJohn, I think this article makes you my favorite columnist on Cracked.
ReplyJust being together is enough for some people. Being together and married is more important to some other people. Just like you did, if you trully believe, if your mind and your heart tell you that you will be with that person for the rest of our life, heck, sign a damn paper and make that other person happier. You, in the end, will be happier too. It is inevitable.
ReplyI got lucky too. When I was 19, I found myself in love with a friend and I told her. A few weeks later, we started dating. A few years later, we got married. A few more years and we became parents.
I trully believe no one else in this world would put up with the amount of time I put into gaming and reading. I also believe I am the only one who can stand (and find funny) the horrible mood she gets into when she does not sleep right.
I honestly didn't think I could love him any more than I already do, but this was just great :) Congrats to him, I hope they have a great life together. She sounds really great.
ReplyJohn Cheese, an ingenious proposal, and one that provides guidelines for realizing you're NOT with 'The One' as much as it does, or would, confirm that you are. For example, I'm afraid I fall into the 'roommate' category with my girlfriend of a year, because I didn't dare to play the 'Smell My Dick' video for fear of disturbing her American-Idol watching. Ah, well, I've had worse roommates... Good read, man. All I'm sayin.
Replyaw! was that really how you proposed?!
ReplyThe ending made me do a double take like I almost blurted "HOLY SHIT!" which wouldn't have been a good thing to yell at work
Replyyou and me both!
This is the most adorable and honest proposal ever. :3 And also, really good advice. Thanks, man!
Replya wonderful ending to this article. you seem like the kind of guy that everyone should get to know at some point in time or another
ReplyYou are the man John Cheesey guy! Congrats on everything you've done in order to lead an awesome life. Its weird how much i know about you when i think about it..
Replyi totally disagree on the "us" pool. carrying someone for a two or three or six months while you figure out your plan is one thing. being the only one who carries everything, including THAT person's fuckups, is bitterness fodder. as a result, i would never expect my current guy to take on the debt that an ex caused, and i would never let (another) guy rack up debt on my behalf for an extended period of time.
Replyi don't bounce checks or pay my bills late. but there's something to be said about trusting someone enough to have separate bank accounts. when you have a life together and love each other and ACTUALLY trust each other, if you tell them what's fucked up with your finances that week they will help you. and vice versa. but it is fucked up to expect carte blanche access to someone's bank account when you have shown no reason to be trusted with the privilege.
The Cheese-Man's point is that, if you really are ready for marriage, you will be responsible enough to not expect the guy to rack up debt on your behalf. If you're doing anything irresponsible enough to put you and your partner in massive debt without his backing, then you do not respect him and are not ready for marriage. However, if he is supportive of the unfortunate choice that lands you in debt, then that debt belongs to both of you. Equally.
But...I think "Can I Smell Your Dick" was intended to be serious...I can't even...I don't...but...?
ReplyThis might be a comedy sight but everything in this article is sound advice. My longest relationship didn't last b/c of #2.
ReplyGot to give him points. Good article with a nice little swerve at the end.
ReplyJohn Chase, you are the man.
ReplyThanks for tricking me into reading your overly lengthy wedding proposal...douchebag...
Replywell no thanks for sucking at being a person
This article just made me a little sadder and a little lonelier.
ReplyI am SO NAMING my KIDS Hunchfuck Clusterbutt and Browncock Shitdents.
Reply Hide All See All 3 RepliesThose kids are going to be SO screwed up.
Yeah, most well-adjusted people are named after comic book characters. Kevin Smith's daughter, Harley Quinn, will surely be a U.S president.
I have a friend that named his child Bruce Wayne Hendrix (though to be fair, Hendrix IS his last name). Judging from his parents and their increasingly poor decisions, that child will most assuredly NOT be a U.S. president.
I wish you both the best and most blessed of lives together!
Replywell done mate. I was married at 22 and we separated at 23. I'm now 25, thanks for giving me another bit of hope that something might work out :) (incidentally any guys or girls out there interested in 25 year old, male, politcally active internet comedy fans wanna say hey I'm right here)
ReplyPolitically Active: (Adj.) Bitches about politics in online forums
Politically Active: (Adj.) 1. Holds radical beliefs about non-controversial issues (see also: condescending elitist)