5 More Rock Radio Classics That Actually Suck
Last week, I wrote a column called 5 Rock Radio Classics That Actually Suck about rock radio favorites I always assumed were good until I broke them down critically. Well, as came as a surprise to no one, the list sure did piss some people off. And in the comments (that I read with masochistic delight) I was accused of being a fan of both Nickelback and
"hipster/douchebag/pitchfork" music. Really odd comments considering I said nice things about Freebird and Layla and several Aerosmith songs. Then again, the commenters were right when they accused me of blowing Editor in Chief Jack O'Brien to keep my job so maybe they know more than I realize.
In any event, notwithstanding how retarded I am or how much I suck, the column did pretty well. So I thought about it some more and I have additional songs for the list. Spoiler alert. If you hated the last column, I promise you, you will hate this column too, so please, please, please don't read it. Or do that other thing you like to do: read all of it and tell me how much it sucks. In fact, just to be sure, after you read it, go and read my Cracked serialized novella Notes from the Internet Apocalypse and then watch all my old Hate By Numbers videos. And puke all over it. That's ok too.
Also, I should point out, I'm not trolling. If I were trolling you'd see Stairway to Heaven or Hey Jude or Carry on Wayward Son on this list. And I would never do that. Not because I'm afraid of pissing people off (clearly) but because they're great songs. Also, if I were trolling, I'd also probably mention that I'm in your mother, like right now. And she's really into it. But I'm not a troll, so I'll just say I may or may not be in your mother.
Again, the following songs are included here if they meet two criteria:
1. They are songs that have been played continuously on classic rock radio since their release until today:
2. And they have no musical, lyrical, or even sociological justification for being immortalized by constant play.
Lastly, I don't think anyone needs to be told (including me) that this list is subjective. Of course, it is. Most things in life are subjective. For example, I once had a girlfriend who hated it when I did that thing with the thing, but your mother is like totally into it. I mean, may or may not be totally into it.
I know. The Stones. How could I? Well, first off let me say that I didn't. I didn't put The Rolling Stones on a list; I put Start Me Up on a list. And I'll get to that in a moment, but as long as we're talking about the Stones...
I'll be the first to admit that The Rolling Stones have about fifteen to twenty absolutely sensational pop rock songs: Satisfaction, Sympathy for the Devil, Wild Horses, Paint it Black, 19th Nervous Breakdown. . . but they've been a band for over 40 years. The Beatles put out that many great songs on just three album sides. And the other thing that always rubbed me the wrong way about the Stones was that unlike the Beatles or Pink Floyd --whose sound evolved by breaking new ground-- the Stones were always caving to what was already fashionable. When they wanted to break into America after The Beatles, they recorded The Beatles song I Want To Be Your Man sounding a lot like the Beatles. When the Beatles went psychedelic in 1967 with songs like Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds the Stones did 2000 Light Years From Home

Ouch
When Glam Rock exploded in the early 70's, Mick donned eye shadow and put out the heavily T Rex-influenced It's Only Rock n' Roll". Then disco came so The Stones did disco. Then rock and roll died in the 80s and there was no obvious genre to ape and the Stones did whatever the hell this crap is. And then in the 90s, Mick Jagger decided the Stones should work with Babyface.
But ok, that brings us to Start Me Up. Certainly, one of the Stones' most played songs and yet, there is nothing distinctive about it. Listening to it is always frustrating because it feels like it's about to go into some great chorus that just never comes. I can't listen to Start Me Up without changing mental channels to Beast of Burden or even Shattered or any other Stones songs where something actually happens. It just the straightest most nondescript Stones hit ever where Mick's minimal and meaningless lyrics merely double Richards' riff, adding no lyrical or melodic flourish. At the end of the day, the most exciting thing about Start Me Up is its association with a Windows 95 commercial, which is kinda harsh tokes for something that's supposed to be a classic song from the bad boys of Rock.
I put this song here for two reasons: 1) Because it really, really sucks; and 2) as my personal apology to David Lee Roth. Let me explain:
When I was a small boy, Van Halen were rock gods. Jump and Panama were massive hits and Davie Lee Roth was everywhere with his ass-shaking antics and over the top smarm. When Van Halen broke up, Eddie Van Halen did an excellent job of vilifying Diamond Dave just as he would do with Sammy Hagar years later. I realize now that this is mostly likely because Eddie Van Halen is a douchebag, but at the time, I listened to every word. And I heard all these stories about how Eddie wanted to grow as an artist and do serious compositions, but that Dave just cared about goofing off and screaming over records.
So I welcomed Sammy Hagar as the new lead singer of Van Halen, and it seemed like Eddie was right because the new Van Halen was more earnest and the new Davie Lee Roth was like an exercise in self-parody. But by the time When It's Love came out on the OU812 album, I realized something that apparently David Lee Roth knew all along:
Van Halen's music is not supposed to be taken seriously.
Eddie Van Halen may be one of the greatest guitarists in rock history, but his compositions sure are all things cheesy. Van Halen NEEDS a frontman like David Lee Roth who gets what makes music fun.
Roth knew exactly who he was and what Van Halen was and with him at the helm they were one of the most entertaining hard rock acts of all time. While Sammy Hagar's vocals are fine (indeed, on a technical level he's a more talented vocalist than Roth) without all of Roth's shtick, you're just left with Eddie's keyboard-laden compositions. Listen up and tell me this song isn't every bit as wimpy as Winger. And that whole Beatlesesque-Little Help From My Friends lead vocal, backing vocal Q and A is just disturbingly awful for a band that's supposed to kick ass.
Mr. Roth, I apologize for ever doubting you. Forgive me.
OK, Def Leppard fans. Before you crucify me right while I'm in the middle of having sex (or maybe not having sex) with your mom, listen closely: Def Leppard has done some great things. 1983's Pyromania is a great album. Photograph is one of the greatest hard rock/pop songs ever written. But Pour Some Sugar On Me is from 1987's Hysteria. And while Pyromania and Hysteria have a lot of the same letters in common, the differences between them are as significant as having an ejaculation versus getting an inoculation.
It's hard to give objective proof of why the song sucks such hard, I mean other than pointing to the pool of blood dripping from your ears after it's played, but I'll try. First off, "pour some sugar on me" is arguably the gayest rock metaphor ever written. And I don't mean gay as in lame (although it's that too). I mean gay as in homosexual. Unless, we're talking about the rare phenomenon of the female squirting orgasm, "pour some sugar on me" sounds like a request to have a starring role in an all dude Bukkake film. And hey, that's fine. Faith No More have had some very effective homoerotic lyrics ("you're the master and I take it on my knees," and "if I tighten up my hole you may never see the light again") but I kinda feel like Joe Elliot wasn't quite aware of the image he was creating.
Also, the lyrics were composed by Joe Elliot and producer Mutt Lange rambling stream of conscious nonsense words into dictaphones and then swapping and rewriting. And while many great songs have been created with novel experimental cut up techniques (David Bowie cutting up lyrics and rearranging at random on Moonage Daydream or George Martin cutting up pipe organ solos in the back of The Beatles' Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite) these lyrics actually sound worthless as the process that created them.
Also, is it too dickish to say the drums on this sound like they were played by a guy with one arm? It is, right? OK. I won't say that.









Gladstone, I'm pretty sure you are a genius. I've seen a lot of HBN, you were dropping some music knowledge there especially against the most heinous Kid Rock. Have you covered Mr. Durst yet?
Reply5. I'm pretty sure Paul McCartney felt the stones were copying them (not looking up the quote) and I never even knew about that Sgt.P-copy album cover before this post. Thanks, old dude! My college music education has been mostly classical, but when we did cover rock, my music history teacher basically said, and without contempt, `the Stones invented doing the same thing over and over.`
Is that really a picture of you back in the day? uh... LOL!
1. I had Dookie (born in 82 jerk), and I remember liking it okay back then. But you're right, Green Day blows hard. Just say it, f**k these dumb kids. Your hatred will make you strong.
HOWEVER
It's technically Punk music's fault here, as Henry Rollins should have killed Billy J Armstrong long ago.
I'll buy the others, but not Def Leppard. PSSOM is the perfect hard rock song with the greatest guitar riff ever. Sure, Hysteria is too slick & polished in places, but not there.
Replybecause you're gay
fucku start me up and when its love are sick songs
ReplyPunk Rock is cheesy guitar based pop. Where's your head at man?
Reply"How about that I can't hear this song without starting to sing Punk Rock Girl by The Dead Milkmen?"
ReplyThe same goes for me. But that doesn't make it a bad song, just derivative and familiar. Still, it's not one of their best songs, mainly because it just doesn't really go anywhere.
#2."Glory Days" by Bruce Springsteen....this is Springsteen's finest song. Yes I'm serious ! Quit laughing at me, this song inspires me every time I throw a pitch in my slow pitch softball league.
ReplyI had heard there were people who actually listened to springsteen....
Yeeeeah, when people start bitching about 'So and so musical group isn't the genre of music they say they are because of reasons that are inherently flawed because of obvious biased opinions', I just ignore them and everything they've ever said. If they can let their opinions taint something as fluid and indescribable as music, they're not all that reliable.
ReplyThat being said: Yes, I am a Green Day Fan (Since Dookie, actually and still am a fan, and, in fact, love their newer music just as much) but I will say this: I'm f*****g sick of Time of Your Life. It's not only overplayed but it's overplayed because people use it for f*****g everything and pretty much cheapened any emotional meaning to the lyrics to express their 'sadness' over not having to put up with high school anymore.
I was happy that it hadn't won out to be played during my HS Graduation. That honor went to Free Bird... take that as you will.
I so agree. This is one of Green Day's songs that I cannot stand >_< and I've loved Green Day since I was 6. This song has been ruined by every person who uses it as a "tribute" song
isn't freebird about this dude not wanting to settle down with the woman he loves because he's 'free as a bird' and wants to be a piece of shit?
I was reading this article and nodding along and wondering how anybody would disagree in the comments, but little did I know that greenday fans actually exist!! I had no idea. Greenday is really awful. Not like subjectively or anything, but...you know...musically dreadful. Nothing against them, they just blow, and I hadn't realized that fans existed, I... I don't know what I thought. I need to....go.
Replygot too say mate your completely wrong over 2 songs. Glory days is a fantastic song about the way friends and times change over the years and hoping you dont look back on the 'glory days'. Bruce has a fantastic ability to paint pictures in your mind with his words and this song is no exception, also its a cracking tune. also green day were a punk rock band, why not read some of their history? the struggle to fund european tours by themselves? watch performances? You mate clearly dont have an understanding of punk and that comes from a punk rocker whos played in bands for 10 years and flown the flag since i was a kid. who are you to say whats punk and not. im not saying i agree their punk now, even billie joe says they are not but they themselves are. also its funny how many people love this song for those 'picture moments' when its actually being sacarstic when saying I hope you had the time of your life. You need a better understanding of music and lyrics before you judge
ReplyGreen Day is one of my favorite bands in the world, but I must admit they are one of the biggest sellouts in punk rock. Nimrod wasn't really punk, and even their early (good) stuff that got them into the punk scene wasn't true punk, more of skater punk. The way Billie Joe struts around claiming to be so punk annoys the hell out of me. Anyway, point is, good article?
ReplyI love Def Leppard. I absolutely love them. I finally got to see them in LA last year and I loved every second of it!
ReplyHello. Let me start off by saying I'm 15 and of the female gender and LOVE Greenday. I also enjoy Kansas, Aerosmith, Rush, the Beatles, etc.... so I know what I'm talking about when I say you're right. Yes, you heard me. That song is totally overplayed (Good Riddance) and Green Day is kinda light for punk.
ReplyWhat I'm pissed about is the fact you have now caused an internal conflict between my PMS-laden brain and my common sense that will end with my head blowing up. Thanks.
I'm a massive Green Day fan. Now watch as about 30 dislikes attack.
ReplyAnd multiple people show up at my front door with pitchforks.
I thought someone like you would like Pitchfork?
A Dead Milkmen reference! /Swoon
ReplyPretty much all classic rock sucks. Sorry, but it's true.
ReplySo what do you think is good music then?
Emerson, Lake & Palmer is pretty cool...Dr John's Gris Gris record is amazing...King Crimson...Not all classic rock sucks........Most of it though....
I'm actually with you on the Def Leppard drummer. He gets way too much credit because he had one arm. More power to him for continuing to chase that dream despite pretty much the worst possible setback a drummer can suffer. But the things he plays sound like they're being played with one arm. They're slow, bass-drum-heavy crap because, once again, it's being played by a man with one arm. I'm not saying he was a bad drummer, I'm saying that a good one-armed drummer is still not as good as a good two-armed drummer.
Replyf**k you, Green Day is actually a good band. I agree that they're not actually punk, but they're a helluva lot better than the s**t that's on the radio these days.
Reply Hide All See All 4 RepliesI love how their latest hit took its main riff from the music in a Pokémon game.
which one was that?
I'm a Green Day fan and I gave you a thumbs down because you got pissed at someone on the internet just because he doesn't like the same music as you.
@assduffmoovee I'm not pissed, I'm just voicing my opinion.
Just found these 5 radio classics that suck. Love it. Don't agree with all of it (as overplayed classics go, Start Me Up and L.A. Woman still don't make me want to kill myself), but I like the premise.
ReplyBut if Springsteen makes the list, "Born to Run" has to displace "Glory Days." Any deep meaning in the lyrics (story) is negated, because it *sounds* like the words were made up on the spot, and the song lasts twice as long as it needs to be.
Green Day and good music do not belong in the same sentence.
ReplyUnless you're saying Green Day does not make good music. Or something like that.
Good call on these tunes!
I don't see what the problem is. They payed their dues for years playing in dank little clubs and put out several independent records before signing to the majors.
Needs more Beatles.
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