6 Pop Culture Mysteries That Were Solved by Fans
Pop culture is full of unsolved mysteries, like "Was Tony Danza the boss?" "What happened to Tony Danza's career?" and "Is Tony Danza even alive?" Some of them are even unrelated to Tony Danza. And some that we thought would never find an answer finally did, but only through the effort of dedicated fans with way too much time on their hands. Like ...
#6. Kubrick Fan Settles 2001: A Space Odyssey/IBM Debate

The Mystery:
The epic cinematic mind trip known as 2001: A Space Odyssey gave rise to some of the greatest mysteries in pop culture history, among them "How could Stanley Kubrick go more than 140 minutes into a film without any nudity or sexual innuendo?"

Unless you count all that ape nudity and suggestive bone groping.
However, one of the most intriguing questions surrounding the film is whether HAL 9000, the intelligent computer who murders 90 percent of the cast, was meant to represent IBM, the actual computer company (and the pioneers of artificial intelligence). Those who subscribe to this theory point out that the name "HAL" is one letter removed from "IBM" (go back one letter for each), while those who oppose it point out that Kubrick himself specifically said it was bullshit.
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Above: Stanley Kubrick, being Stanley Kubrick.
But what about Arthur C. Clarke, the guy who co-wrote 2001 with Kubrick and wrote the accompanying novel and its sequels? Clarke has been even more vocal than Kubrick about denying the IBM connection, even going as far as to have HAL's creator in one of the books say it's "utter nonsense." So, that pretty much settles it.
How They Solved It:
Or so we thought, until Kubrick fan and filmmaker Robert Ager took a closer look at the HD version of the film and found this:

Sadly, there's no button for "I've just been thrown into space by a computer."
Yep, that's the IBM logo on the little keypad on the suit of one of the astronauts. In the previous scene, one of the characters says, "I can't quite put my finger on" what's wrong with HAL -- and then we cut to a finger "not quite being put" on the IBM logo. If we were talking about literally any other director, we could believe that this was a coincidence (another one), but Kubrick was known for putting an insane amount of detail into his work, even if it meant terrorizing the people who worked for him. This seems exactly like the sort of Easter egg he would include.
Also, it turns out that's not the only time the IBM logo is shown: It's visible on the Pan Am "Space Clipper" at the beginning and, apparently, projected across Dave's face when he's trying to reason with HAL. Can you read it?

Hint: That's not an Apple.
Incidentally, "Can you read me?" is what Dave says when the letters flash across his face, which is basically Kubrick's way of saying "Get it? GET IT?" Did Kubrick intentionally lie to everyone who asked him about the IBM connection, including the movie's writer (who admitted that Kubrick alone came up with the name HAL), just so someone could find this previously unreadable detail when the HD version came out 40 years in the future? Honestly, we wouldn't put it past him. Who knows what else is hidden in there.

Probably boobs.
#5. YouTuber Solves the Saw Murders Years Before the Films Do

The Mystery:
The Saw franchise has earned more than $800 million worldwide, but that's not the only mystery surrounding it. Even though the main character (the Jigsaw killer) has been dead since the third movie, they've managed to keep the series going for four more films by slowly revealing different parts of Jigaw's complicated master plan (which, shockingly, is not just "torture as many dudes as possible").

"And then do it again in 3-D."
Clearly they're just making that shit up as they go along, right? You can't guess the plot of the next Saw movie because the writer himself probably doesn't know it until he sits in front of his laptop and begins snorting the computer's weight in cocaine.
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"SCENE 1: Something, something, torture porn. Plot twist!"
Specifically, if the killer spends most of the series terminally ill or dead, how do these movies even make sense? Also, does anyone expect them to?
How They Solved It:
At least one person expected them to: His username is Toberoon, and in 2009 he uploaded a YouTube video that explained how the Saw movies tied together ... two years before the filmmakers revealed the same thing at the end of Saw 3D.
In the video, Toberoon outlined an elaborate theory that Cary Elwes' character from the first Saw film (Dr. Gordon, the guy forced to saw his own foot off) was not only alive, but had also become Jigsaw's apprentice in the subsequent films. According to Toberoon, Jigsaw rescued Gordon when he was mostly dead and hooked him up with a prosthetic foot.

Thankfully, mostly dead is slightly alive.
Toberoon was able to find several clues that Gordon was working with the killer, like a video where "Jigsaw" seemed to be limping while torturing a guy, or the fact that he was able to perform surgical operations even though he was an engineer. Most fans probably didn't notice these clues because, well, they're exactly the sort of plot holes you'd expect from a horror film.
Even though Toberoon only had the first five Saw films to work with, in the seventh one his theory turned out to be 100 percent correct -- not only was Dr. Gordon secretly Jigsaw's unpaid intern this whole time, but it happened exactly as Toberoon's video predicted it:
Or maybe the writers just saw the video and said, "Hey, that makes more sense than what we were planning," which would be kind of impressive in its own way.
#4. Message Board Poster Cracks the Entire Zelda Alphabet

The Mystery:
One of the staples of the Legend of Zelda series is the Hylian language, perhaps best known for its odd pronunciation of the word "excuse." You can always find the symbols that make up the language on those awfully convenient signs that some brave soul took the time to place at even the most ridiculously dangerous corners of the land of Hyrule.
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"Watch out for the chicken."
Fans curious or obsessed enough to want to know what the signs say usually have to wait for Nintendo to give out the translated alphabet for each game -- but this time they were out of luck. The official Zelda handbook described the language used in the latest game, Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, as impossible to translate.
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Link could be stepping into a rape vortex without knowing it. Again.
Some fans tried to crack the code anyway, only to find out that they were all stumped on the same letters. Keep in mind that even the timeline of the various Zelda games was kept in absolute mystery for over 20 years -- Nintendo could easily keep the language a secret for 20 more.
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"We're really surprised people care about this stuff, so we've resolved to fuck with them."
How They Solved It:
Or at least they could have, if it wasn't for a message board poster called Sarinilli, who cracked the code by herself ... within little more than a month of the game's release.
Sarinilli became a hero to Zelda fans everywhere when she found a small sign in the game that seemed to repeat a random string of characters over and over. Upon closer inspection, she realized the characters weren't random -- it was actually the entire Hylian alphabet written down in sequence, presumably by a lazy programmer who wanted to fill some space, or perhaps someone having a long seizure.
She had found Hyrule's Rosetta stone, at which point she presumably got to hear that fancy secret passage jingle in real life. Sarinilli even created a downloadable font that Zelda fans can use to send confidential messages to one another, or simply mess with Nintendo. As for those mysterious signs all over the game: It turns out they say really exciting stuff like "Read me please," "You can read this" and "Sold out."
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"Please lubricate sword before insertion."









"Is that a zebra?"
ReplyThat line caught me off-guard. Genius.
i'm jamison812. I forgot it said 1928 not 1920. But still the rest doesn't add up
ReplyDude.. Number 6..
Reply Hide All See All 3 RepliesIBM
HAL.
H...I
A...B
L...M
The letters come right after each other..
Yeah.. he meant to do that shit.
They kind of mentioned that...
No Mr Derpe.. They kinda didn't..
Actually it does. Go read it again
I have a sudden urge to learn the Hylian language.
ReplyWow, this article is more about giving props to random internet nerds than actually explaining things in any viable detail. Way to not do very much work at your lazy excuse for a job.
ReplyUnsuccessful troll is unsuccessful (until now, arguably).
Wait, you actually consider that thing about the time traveler to be "Cracked?" Come on. That was my first reaction when I heard it on the news because I'm not as big an internet nerd as I should be. I prophetically yelled it at everyone who said cellphone. I was like "BITCH THEY DIDN"T HAVE CELL TOWERS AND WHO YOU GONNA CALL THE f*****g GHOST BUSTERS?" C'mon. Who really actually believed that other than the batshit insane who totally still do. I know you idiots saw them things in cartoons when we were kids even if you never saw one on old timey film before. Mofo was deaf and just wanted to hear the sounds of TB rattling around him on the street.
ReplyWhy would you need something as archaic as cell towers when you mastered time travel...
Why the need for a flip phone? But yeah it's totally a phone
'James Kirk in drag' is -always- the answer!
ReplyMaybe it's time to get Sarinilli to see if she can decipher the Voynich Manuscript, since all the experts have failed to do so!
ReplyScrew that, just ask Arsene Wenger, he seems to understand every language in existence.
This was very interesting! I read The Lord of the Rings trilogy quite a few years ago and somewhere in the preface, it said that LOTR fans actually figured out the elvish language system before Tolkien explained it. The fans would write him letters in elvish. Keep in mind, I read this ten years ago... I'm not sure if it was true or not. But it wouldn't surprise me.
ReplyI'm re-reading LOTR now, and I read the preface the same way - the languages were figured out by fans before he provided translations for them. It floors me how clever and dedicated people are. I have enough trouble remembering the combination for my locker.
Rob Ager is a fairly unpleasant far-right-wing scumbag in real life, so I'd be worried about checking out anything he has to say.
ReplyWait, I'm confused about the raven one. If it's nevar put with the wrong end in front...what the f**k does that have to do with a writing desk??????
Reply Hide All See All 3 RepliesBecause writing desks are never put with the wrong end in front. The nevar part is only to related it to the raven, the intent behind the words (never being put with the wrong end in front) relates to the writing desk.
Thanks for explaining that. It sort of confused me too.
If you look at a picture of an old writing desk, it'll sort of make sense. There's only one way to sit at it. As for the "nevar" part, I guess that's self explanatory. Don't think about it too hard; it's just Lewis Carroll being weird.
What about all of the questions posed by John Carpenter's The Thing that have been answered by fans, either through the events of the Prequel, or confirmed by the people who worked on the movies? Hell... At lest 3 of my theories fall into that category...
ReplyWell, then I can't wait to read your article.
I'm probably missing an obvious joke or reference, but I used the translated Hylian font to read the rape gate pic because I have too much free time. "If you can read this than you are as awesome as Bastian" Who's Bastian?
Reply Hide All See All 3 RepliesPossibly the person who wrote the message.
The Never Ending Story...but why it's in Zelda, IDK
Bastian Schwiensteiger. I don't know what he has to do with this, but he's the only Bastian I know of.
Rob Ager, the guy from #6, has some fascinating - FASCINATING - stuff on his site, Collative Learning. I came across it a little over a year ago while doing some research on The Shining and spent the next week picking through his analyses and theories. Really interesting stuff.
ReplyThe man in the add is not the "woman" in the film due to her nose being more narrow, despite the angle you look at it. it's absurd I know, Time traveler. The earliest hearind aid add is that 1924 one. The film was released in 1920, four years prior to the ad, which was introducin a then brand new device. So, how would the company have the finished product four years prior to it's release? When making devices, companies go through dozens of drafts before they get the official look of the broduct? The hearing aid is more square than the object depicted in the clip. Even if it was a rough draft, how would a rough draft of the aid be that much completed? It doesnt add up. Also why would she be talking to herself? There is clearley no one around her, and she deliberatley turns and smirks at the camera. She clearley knows something due to her facial expression. Also if that is the same aid shown in the ad, why would they wait FOUR YEARS to release a revolutionary device such as the hearing aid?
Reply Hide All See All 4 RepliesDon't mind my spelling errors
This was the third time I wrote this so i rushed myself
Pretty sure it says released in 1928
And if it was someone on their phone..well why the f**k would they be on their phone? The infrastructure needed for the phones to work wouldn't exist for decades
You so kooky.
I believe you will find that the mystery of the time-traveling tranny is easily explained with the simple application of "Stargate: SG-1" time-travel rules.
Reply Hide All See All 4 RepliesAs we all know, if any part of the stable wormhole created by a Stargate occupies the same space as a solar flare, the wormhole may no longer transport the traveler across distances, but instead, across time. Furthermore, as wave energy (in this instance, sound waves) enjoys two-way travel through an open wormhole regardless of the point of origination, it is entirely possible that the he-she was using a two-way communicator in order to remain in contact with an operating crew at the point of departure.
Given, there are some problems with this theory. The idea that an operating crew at the point of origination would be able to maintain a stable wormhole under such conditions is, at best, dubious. Also, you know... "Don't-Ask-Don't-Tell."
The Doctor Who explanation is even easier: Wibbly-wobbly....
Downrated for your use of transphobic language. f**k you. - a "tranny"
cissexist ass- doctor Who explantion's much better anyways: time is one big wibbly wobbly timey wimey ball of... stuff
Would it upset you if I said trannies have no fannies they are just chicks with dicks?
"We're really surprised people care about this stuff, so we've resolved to f**k with them."
ReplyToo true. xD
In the movie Heartbreak Ridge. Clint Eastwood was the leader of a platoon. Several times per week, they had to do training by running. The issue is that his troops needed to match his T-shirt in each of those training days. If he had at least 4 option of colors to wear (not counting, that he might even have several of each color). How after several days, they figured which t-shirt he was going to wear everyday. My question is how?
ReplyClint Eastwood lived above the bar he frequented; the one he took Mario Van Peebles to. Mario met the old woman who owned the bar and she mentioned that she was up and around when Clint left for the base. Mario smiled. Obviously, they would call her after Clint Eastwood left for the base each day to find out what shirt he was wearing.
What the hell did I just read? Now, I have to see this movie.
If anyone really thought this is a time traveler you are seriously an idiot.
Reply0 + 5 - 2 = 2
Only one viable explanation: time travelers.
Who would you call if you took your cell phone back in time? No one. There are no cell towers. So unless your phone can connect -through- time, my first assumption would definitely have been hearing aid or anything else not pertaining to time travel.
Reply Hide All See All 6 RepliesIf you got a time machine, why can't you have a crosstime base station on it? Or they could just be talking with the people on the mothership...
Don't be silly, calling in a different time is not a problem if you have a Tardis.
Wouldnt cell phones be more advanced in the same future that time travel is possible?
*TARDIS
Only after the Doctor gives you "Universal" roam..
Time phone, obv.