5 Ways People Are Trying to Save the World (That Don't Work)
Between the hybrids, the reusable canvas shopping bags and cloth diapers, everybody's doing their little bit to save the world. Entire industries have sprang up to cater to us socially-responsible types who want to leave behind a better world for the robots to inherit once they take over.
But, most of the time, making you feel better is about all it does. For instance...

Why People Do It:
Seems like a no-brainer. Organic food eliminates the use of chemical fertilizers, hormones and pesticides. Getting rid of all those nasty chemicals means healthier foods and less contamination to the planet.
And anything that's organic or natural has to be better for you, right? It's like you're eating the opposite of Twinkies here.
Why They Shouldn't:
So what's the problem with eating healthier food and saving the Earth? Nothing, except that the food may not be any healthier. And that's even if you can afford the (much) higher prices. Oh, and the impact on the planet may actually be worse.

The funny thing about those chemical fertilizers and pesticides is that they were invented for a reason, and that's to increase food production. Turns out organic farming is pretty damn inefficient. Holding hands and thinking peaceful thoughts does dick all against pests that want to eat your crops and weeds that want to choke them out. The current acre of farmland produces 200 percent more wheat than it did 70 years ago. The same goes for meat and poultry. The chemicals did that for us.
Take them away, and suddenly you're getting less food per acre of land. According to some guy who won a Nobel Prize, we could feed 4 billion people if we went all organic. This sounds great except maybe to the 2.5 billion people who would be left without anything to eat.

A tiny fraction of the people organic food would leave starving.
Despite all the claims that chemicals used in farming are bad for us, it turns out cancer rates have dropped 15 percent since farmers began using chemicals. How is that possible? Well it's mainly due to people being able to afford more fruits and vegetables, because the chemicals allow more to be grown. That's one reason the average life expectancy in the US went up by almost 10 years between 1950 and 2000.
As for the environment, it turns out organic farming has its own issues. Because it is much less efficient, there is actually a shortage of organic food available. This leads to people having the food shipped in from much further away. We're no scientists, but we think that doing things like shipping organic milk 900 miles over the highway in a truck belching diesel fumes is probably canceling out any environmental benefits you might have gained from going organic.

Oh, and did we mention organic farming uses a lot of manure to fertilize crops? This results in a greater risk of contamination. Although organic produce only accounts for one percent of the food supply, it accounts for eight percent of the E. coli cases in the U.S.
Basically, you are at greater risk of eating a shit sandwich, which is admittedly organic, but still.

Why People Do It:
Because the chemical cocktails in vaccines are poisoning our children! Depending on what websites or episode of Oprah you watch, vaccines contain poisonous mercury, and are causing everything from autism to Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, which is about as scary a medical term as you can have without using "flesh-eating" or "dick-melting."
Why They Shouldn't:
In a word: science. While the folks pushing the anti-vaccination agenda mean well (though some seem to be doing it out of a knee-jerk fear of "Big Pharma") their claims aren't backed up by the actual studies.

"Trust me, those medicines will only make you sick. Also, I'm sorry, you seem to be dying for some reason."
Apparently the whole autism scare was based on a 1998 report which has since been rejected by all the major health organizations, and was even retracted by its authors in 2004. In the scientific world, that's the equivalent of calling bullshit on yourself.
As for Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, studies actually showed that the cases of SIDS actually went down 40 percent even as vaccination rates went up. This is science's way of saying "You are fucking wrong."

"According to my chart, you are a fucking moron."
A lot of the arguments against vaccination focus on the fact that a preservative used in some vaccines contains mercury. There are only two problems with this: the type they were using wasn't dangerous, and they stopped using it in 2001.
We're not saying vaccines have no risk. As with any drug, there is a chance some kids may have a bad reaction. But the odds of serious side effects are fairly slim compared to the risk of catching the disease if children are not vaccinated.
The thing is that when enough parents decide not to vaccinate their kids, those little germ factories start doing what they do best and epidemics break out. Then you end up with a little snotty babies running around infecting people like some kind of really cute zombie apocalypse.

"Bwwwaaaaaiiinnnsssss."

Why People Do It:
We've all been raised to believe that unless we all recycle, our forests will soon be barren and we'll be living among mountains of our own filth, Wall-E style.
Recycling is also supposed to use fewer resources and create less pollution. What could possibly be wrong with that?
Why They Shouldn't:

The image of the paper industry hacking down every tree until we were all gasping for lack of oxygen was always ridiculous; we've increased the number of trees over the last 50 years as logging companies plant more to ensure future supply.
Equally silly were the warnings most of us got hammered with growing up, about tales of overflowing landfills, full of trash that takes thousands of years to biodegrade. At least in America, we were never in danger of walking through streets of garbage. Some expert at Gonzaga University, with a lot of time on his hands, calculated that at current rates all the garbage in the US over the next 1,000 years would fill up a 35 square mile landfill 100 yards deep.

This sounds like one of those "Holy shit!" scary figures until you consider this is about one tenth of one percent of the land currently used for grazing in the US. Also, this would be the accumulation over 1,000 years by which time we should have bigger things to worry about, like overthrowing our robotic overlords.
As for saving resources by recycling, this is where it gets tricky. Partly this is because whether or not recycling saves resources depends on whether you consider human labor to be a resource (that is, the effort to pick up, sort and transfer the items to be recycled). Recycling requires more trucks, more crews and more people to oversee the entire process. In Los Angeles alone there are twice as many garbage trucks than there would have been without the recycling program. Just like those douchebags who drive to the gym to run on a treadmill but still hop in the car to go the one block to the corner store to pick up their pork rinds and soda, it's not clear just how much benefit there is at the end of the day.
Also, re-using something is not always better than just tossing it away. A chemist at the University of Victoria calculated that you would need to use a ceramic mug 1,000 times before you would see benefits over using disposable polystyrene cups for those 1,000 cups of coffee. This is because it takes far more energy to make that mug and takes energy and water to wash it after each use.

Now obviously you can't take that to the extreme and go to a lifestyle of all-disposable dishes and clothes, and where every ink pen is sold in box made up of three pounds of cardboard and plastic. But the problem was never as bad as they kept telling us.








The point about using polystyrene one use cups instead of a ceramic one is ridiculous. 1000 uses would take only 3 years assuming use of the cup once a day. Ceramic cups have a much longer shelf life than that provided you don't drop them. The 1000 uses sounds like a 'holy shit' scary figure until you think about it for a second.
ReplyWhen I was seven years old my school did a vaccination program against measles. A lot of my classmates got vaccinated, I didn't. To this day I have never come even remotely close to contracting measles nor am I ever likely to ergo vaccination = pointless.
Replyits not pointless, but it may not be necessary.
its like buying an upgrade in a videogame... no need to buy it if it doesnt affect gameplay anyway.
rpg, whats the idea of getting the strongest weapon, just one unti stronger than the one you have now, if you can one shot the final boss anyway.
point is vaccination is a training camp for the immune system, it gives them a weakened version of the material you ae vaccinated against.
lets say measles, they put a weakened version of it in yoru blood in order for the immune defense to find out the best way to handle this thing without endangering the body...
however it happens sometimes the immunde defense isnt strong enough to even handle the weakened version of the virus and thats when it can get ugly. so it might help some since if it beat it it will be better prepeared if you ever get infected by the true version of it, however it may also do more harm than good if your ID is too weak to handle even the weakened version.
i got a friend that claims she got her autism from such a thing... ive also heard it might give meningitis, in both cases illnesses affecting the brain.
which is also why nr2 is there.
as grunt say in mass effect 1.
what isnt constantly challenged grows weak.
its true.
vaccination gives a challenge although not a big one enough for the ID to learn about the necessary virus (usually viruses) so yeah vaccines can get bad, and they might also never be needed BUT if they are it can get bad.
if i translated measles right its something that can create sterillity...
hell even chicken pox can do so, which is why you need to get it as a kid, otherwise you risk getting an infection as an adult and thereby getting sterile.
why? because again the ID learns how to handle it and can then beat it down better than last time.
there are countless examples and explanations but im leaving with just one more.
quarians from mass effect. too sterile invironment, cant ssurvive without their suits... are technically running around with AIDS or AKA no ID. No body defense.
I use my ceramic cup five to ten times a day, that means the benefit was reached in less than a year(1000/5 = 200days = less than seven months). I've had it for twenty. I have three of them all told, they not only reached the "1000 times" point a long time ago, but cut down on the amount of garbage I leave on the curb among other things.
ReplyEven if I directly equate it to the one to five Styrofoam or paper cups in a day you may get between six months at 5 cups a day and two and a half years at one cup a day(let's say you use the same cup all day) to equal the energy in a ceramic cup, which still has untold number of years, possibly thousands, to go.
In a restaurant or coffee shop, it's even more extreme: One ceramic cup can EASILY be used 10 to 100 times IN A SINGLE DAY. That's less than 100 days, or three and a half months, and as few as ten, to reach the critical mass of energy efficiency. and that's not counting the waste.
Recycling may be mildly over-hyped, but reusing is not.
You seem to be ignoring the energy used to create hot water to wash the ceramic cups after each use and the water used that will have to use even more energy to be filtered back into drinking water. That is unless, of course, these ceramic cups in the restaurants you mentioned aren't washed before each use, which is just a sign of a bad restaurant. You should call a health inspector or something.
The article is refereeing to feel good idiots. There are a lot where I go to school: they bring reusable mugs, and use them less than 50 times before it gets lost or broken.
The lesson is, never try.
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ReplyGood thing they're bio-degradable.
Most of this article is just down right wrong. I live in Iowa, where we grow most of the corn that is used throughout the entire U.S. It's inorganic and guess what? They use manure (it's not just organic farmers). They also spray the dirt down with ammonia which is nasty sh**. Which is what they also spray down your meat with to kill e coli (which is only an issue because they feed animals unnatural feed for their bodies). Also chemicals aren't used to produce more crops (genetically altering is) they're used by lazy people that want to plant the same thing all in one place to call out to the bugs hey come have a feast! (google companion planting - what smart people do) - also you can use homeopathic means to get rid of bugs, which is 100% natural. I could ramble on and on, instead I'm going to say watch "Food Matters" and "Food Inc" to get what's going on. And yes they're on netflix.
ReplyRead "Just Food" by James McWilliams for a less biased, better-sourced, and more recent look at how food is produced.
You mentioned homeopathy. You're retarded.
A better word than 'Organic' to look for: 'Local'.
Reply'Local' isn't always better either. Transportation generally only accounts for 15% of the energy used to make food. Case in point: it uses less energy to grow tomatoes in Africa and ship them to England than it does to grow them in England, because you need a hothouse to grow them for most of the year there. Local food can be a good thing, but it isn't always the better alternative. I'd advise reading the book "Just Food" by James McWilliams for a more in-depth look.
The recycling bit is shaky, although the other ones are useful.
ReplyRecycling is actually the third ecology-minded 'R' of the series, after Reduce and Reuse. Much higher ecological value is derived from the first two.
When it comes to Recycling, you can make a case that recycling some things is worth a lot more ecologically than other things. Aluminum is a good example. Recycling it avoids using up all the energy of mining and separating (and if you have noticed, you can still get significant money for it). Paper is kind of upper mid-range for positive effects. Plastic comes next at lower mid-range. Recycling glass could be argued to be unnecessary.
Recycling aluminum is definitely good, but paper and glass are both kind of conditional.
Dalek6450 (Using BugMeNot): What about Electric Cars? Where does the power that fuels them come from? Power Stations, most of which use fossil fuels. Hydrogen Fuel Cells are the way of the future...as soon as they become as powerful as a V8 :-).
ReplyYeah, those pesticides were definitely invented for a reason. Poison gas to kill soldiers was their noble purpose, not to fix World Hunger.
ReplyJust like the Internet was originally a military program. Just because something was invented for one purpose doesn't mean it can't be put to better use in another area.
You have it backwards. Poison gas was derived from pesticides.
Some people In japan or china using old breed of rice with grown traditionally without insecticide or chemical fertilizer (ie organically) because it's produce a super quality rice. the yield is low, but the taste are much better then the common breed. so sometimes people do it for better quality & healthier food.
ReplyParents who refuse vaccinations T me off to no end. As a microbiologist it is my duty to understand all things bacteria and (kinda) virus related, and vaccines fall into this category. Not vaccinating your children isn't just putting your child at risk, but anyone they interact with as well.
ReplyThe thing about vaccines is they are not perfect. There is a bell curve where there is going to be a small percentage of people who the vaccine does not work for. The thing is this small percentage (~5%) is protected by something called herd immunity where a pathogen/virus cannot get established because there is a high enough percentage of the population who the vaccine did work for, so the germ doesn't get any hosts infected to spread the disease. When a flock of ignorant parents decide to not get vaccines for their children this herd immunity is compromised. All of a sudden the virus has a population which is susceptible to infection, and the children who inevitably get infected then infect that small percentage of kids who a vaccine just didn't work for. Now because a bunch of parents are misinformed about vaccines not only are their children sick but so are other innocent children.
California is actually having a problem with this. Usually there is a population of parents who refuse vaccines who have kids attending the same school/district which results in severely crippled herd immunity. You can probably google search this and get some actual examples of it happening. A big one is the DTP vaccine which inoculates the patient against three pathogens that cause pretty serious illness (Diphtheria, whooping cough (pertusis),. and Tetanus).
Vaccines are not perfect, don't get me wrong. But the risk of not getting vaccinated is way way WAY worse than getting vaccinated. Not just for you but your neighbors as well. Vaccines have eliminated and are close to eliminating some of the most devastating diseases to man kind. Polio is just about eradicated and we are still tweaking the vaccine formula to achieve this goal.
To turn your back on these dedicated scientists is turning your back on well over a centuries worth of science. Who can possibly think they are more informed than over a centuries worth of cooperative effort between scientists?
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Carbon offsets would actually work really well if we could just get some kind of universal standard, or regulatory agency set up that would actually handle it.
ReplyThe problem now is that we let whoever is in the market handle it, so people can make up as much bullshit as they want and get away with it.
Regulate the market, and you'll probably see some tangible benefit.
Save the world.
ReplyEither provide ways for all able humans to labor in some fashion to contribute to the pool of resources and receive decent enough resources to have a comfortable life... or...
Pull some extreme population control and get rid of enough of us that the ones left can have resources enough to be comfortable... as well as not allowing people to make millions doing anything.
There are a few issues with this column.
Reply1) Eating organically CAN be a good thing. Obviously, if you're not eating locally grown produce as well and instead shipping it hundreds of miles it's bad. However, NOT using tons of excess chemicals and fertilizers prevents all of those chemicals and fertilizers from ending up in our water supplies. In the water, the chemicals will settle into the sediment where it's taken up by plants, which are eaten by fish which are eaten by larger fish. So now you have these fish stuffed full of chemicals that are made to kill living things. If the fish survive, then they're eaten by the next step in the food chain and so on, killing off many "good" animals in the process. Furthermore, fertilizers in water supplies end up causing an "algae bloom" or a mass mat of algae which then dies and is eaten by bacteria. This bacteria will consume all the oxygen in the water, known as "eutrophication". Obviously, when you have a body of water with no oxygen, all the things that used to live in that water that need oxygen will die. The article also mentions that cancer rates have dropped since we started using chemicals. This is a mere correlation, not causation. We've also stopped letting children handle mercury and run through clouds of DDT and play on arsenic soaked wood playgrounds. I feel like THAT has a lot more to do with dropping cancer rates than us using chemical fertilizers. And finally there's the whole issue of pests and weeds becoming immune to our chemicals just like the bacteria and anti-bacterial soap.
2) Recycling DOES help. Yes, if your method of COLLECTING recycling involves more vehicles being driven, then you might not be helping out. But overall, recycling items reduces a HUGE amount of resources that it would take to first acquire the materials needed to create said item. Also, while the amount of trash a landfill might take up may seem small, that's assuming all the trash actually makes it to that landfill. Instead of, you know, the giant plastic island in the Pacific.
This article would've been better if one of their examples was "Purchasing and driving hybrids". Seeing as how many hybrids (the Prius especially) are made across the Pacific, they need to be shipped here which is INCREDIBLY energy intensive. Not to mention that the "hybrid" part is run on electricity, and most of our electricity still is produced from burning coal.
All that being said, some points that were brought up are entirely valid. But overall...meh.
I live in North Dakota and I hope global warming is real because it's f*****g cold here. Also, polar bears eat each other and think nothing of ripping you open, so I don't know if they're very nice like in the Coke commercials.
ReplyI think you don't understand what global warming means. And even if it really did make thing better in North Dakota, it would probably screw things up almost everywhere in the world, which means that thinking that it is a good thing is quite selfish.
I recycle because I think it's cool that empty Coke cans can be made into other stuff
ReplyAnti bact soap keeps away the bumps that used to show up on the lower half of my butt cheeks sooo what are the alternatives?
Reply#1 is stupid. so u say dont do it because its too late? weak
ReplyNo. They're saying don't do it because it's a waste of money and doesn't actually make a difference.
oh come on, dont trash talk recycling
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