7 Iconic Characters They Saved from The Cutting Room Floor
It's easy to take iconic characters for granted. We just assume that the moment a Batman or a Rambo were dreamed up, the writer knew he had a world-changing icon on his hands.

Not so. It turns out a lot of the most legendary characters in pop culture came damned close to getting axed early in the game. Characters like...

Every superhero franchise is kind of in a Catch-22. You need a great, memorable archenemy, or even better, more than one. And you need to be able to bring him back again and again and again. But if a villain like, say, the Joker, has been out killing people for 70 years, doesn't that make Batman look a little incompetent? What kind of superhero lets somebody like the Joker keep slipping away?

This kind.
How We Almost Lost Him:
That was what writer Bill Finger was wondering. Finger, who wrote the first Batman stories, thought that if Batman's foes kept coming back, it would make him a pretty lousy crime fighter. Take a guess what happened to the Joker in his first appearance in Batman #1.

He uses playing cards. We get it.
He got stabbed right in the damned heart.
Who Saved Him?
Whitney Ellsworth.
Ellsworth was the editor of National Publications (later DC Comics) in the 1940s, and by all accounts had one of the sissiest names in history. He didn't want Finger to kill off interesting villains (like he had done with Braless Woman and Sluterella in the past), so this time he told Finger to save the Joker. A new panel was quickly added.

Do all doctors react this way when they figure out a patient isn't dead?
If you want to know just how hard it is to think up good comic book villains, remember that scene played out in 1940. Hundreds of issues, a TV show and a bunch of movies later, he's still the best they could come up with.

Jack was the unquestionable leader of the plane crash survivors for the first couple dozen episodes of Lost and without question is the character we would most like to punch in the face.

"Pretty much everyone on board is dead. But my tie... my tie is alright."
How we almost lost him:
Like the Joker, he was supposed to die in the first episode. Oh, and he was to be played by Michael Keaton.

In typical "everything must have a twist" J.J. Abrams style, the idea was to cast a well-known actor and build him up as the main character... then whiplash the audience by killing him off in the pilot. Not a bad idea, it lets the audience know that pretty much anything can happen, which seems to be 90 percent of the Lost concept.

BOOM! POLAR BEAR! OUT OF NOWHERE!
Who Saved Him?
The producers.
Because this was still network television and challenging the audience usually means giving them a very quick glimpse of side boob, they figured the whole "killing Michael Keaton" thing (which we hope involved suddenly sucking him into the jet engine) might cross the line into pissing people off.

That's another similarity to the Joker situation. If the audience likes him, they'll hate you for killing him. If the audience hates him (again, we're talking Michael Keaton here) then the whole impact of the stunt is gone.
Then again, this is Lost we're talking about here. Does anybody stay dead?

Also, next season the Harlem Globetrotters show up.

If you're young enough that you just know Rambo as a character played by an aging, mumbling Sylvester Stallone desperately trying to grab some box office before he retires, you missed out. From about a decade after 1985, Rambo had a status shared only by Top Gun as a movie that added a word to the language.

And sweet headbands.
During those years, every time you saw a tough guy you'd say, "Look at Rambo over here" and everybody knew what you were talking about (and any guy who was great at anything was called the "Top Gun" on magazine covers and such). He was a damned icon of badass.
How We Almost Lost Him:
Did you know the Rambo franchise was based on a novel? It was. Have any of you actually read the novel First Blood, which was the prequel to Rambo? To save you a trip to Wikipedia, here is a massive spoiler: Rambo dies at the end. The movie originally planned to follow suit:
When you think about it, that ending is actually way more appropriate, especially considering the entire point of the story is how Vietnam vets were abandoned after the war. In that context, his crazy rampage over the city suddenly makes more sense: He was looking for a way to die like a soldier. Also, he was crazy and he wanted to drop Brian Dennehy through a skylight.

"There's no way I'm getting dropped through this skylight."
Who Saved Him?
Sly apparently felt that this disenfranchised killing machine had the potential to become a massive action hero franchise, so he was opposed to killing him off. This caused a lot of tension on set, especially with Kirk Douglas (the first choice for Colonel Trautman) who demanded the death of Rambo for artistic reasons.

Pictured: Kirk Douglas on the set of First Blood.
Finally, the producers decided to go with Stallone's idea after test audiences reacted negatively to Rambo's death. They also complained about the lack of rainbows, but hey, you have to draw the line somewhere.

"Also, can Rambo have wings? Like Pegasus?"


How We Almost Lost Him:
When Star Trek was first pitched to NBC, the station felt that the character of Spock looked like the devil. Which is ridicul- actually we can kind of see where they're coming from. And now we can't unsee it.

Live sinful and burn in hell.
Who Saved Him?
Women.
Gene Roddenberry, the show's creator, convinced NBC to let him keep Spock on the show as long as he stayed in the background. But Spock's stoic badassery and alien sex appeal unexpectedly attracted lots of female viewers and the show's ratings skyrocketed.
When you get down to it, Spock really is the perfect man: tall, mysterious, brilliant, a bit of an outcast... he's like James Dean and an art history professor all rolled into one pointy-eared package.

You won't be able to unsee this, either








Love you guys but #2 couldn't be more wrong. Byrne started drawing the X-Men in 1977 (brillantly I might add) that part is true, but the Thunderbird character was splattered all over the side of NORAD mountain in 1975. John was drawing Iron Fist and some other lower level titles in 1975.
ReplyThis should be researched and edited. You could replace the Wolverine character in #2, with the entire X-Men comic, which was slated for elimination in the early seventies before Claremont and Cockrum took a flyer on saving it. That is where the real story lies.
True, one of the things the NBC execs told Roddenberry after they'd watched "The Cage" (the original pilot) was that "the satanic looking guy with the ears has to go." Ironically, Spock is the only character from "The Cage" who was retained for the second pilot, "Where No Man Has Gone Before." (Though canonically, the voice of the computer is still that of "Number One," the female first officer played by Majel Barrett in "The Cage.")
ReplyDeForest Kelly "Doctor or Bones" (yeah weird real first name, IMO) seemed to be a bit jealous of Leonard Nimoy's "Mr. Spock or just plain Spock" stage makeup, particularly the pale-blue eye-shadow, and what may be false eyelashes and mascara, because as the episodes went by, it seemed to me that both he and William Shatner "Captain James T. Kirk, Captain Kirk, Captain" began to increasingly use mascara and shaping their eyebows and sideburns to mimic Mr.Spock, and in one episode in particular, when the good doctor had a female love interest, he really went to town on the mascara and what looked like fake eyelashes (but MIGHT have been just more mascara ((shrugs))
ReplyChekov and Sulu too, had quite a bit of face paint, and it looked like Sulu went nuts on the pancake makeup in aneffort to better hide more of the pockmarks on his face as well...haha!!
Wait a second, the issue where Thunderbird died was created by Len Wein and David Cockrum (and was scripted by Chris Claremont), this happened YEARS before Byrne joined the book.
ReplyI thought Thunderbird was killed off because he was too much like Red Wolf?
ReplyA world with no Spock, Wolverine or Batman.
ReplyLet us embrace in a minute of silence to the alternate universe where that actually happened. Poor you, alternate us.
Poor alternate universe women... Them heroes be hot! :)
"Braless Woman"? "Sluterella"? Are those actual Batman villains? I'm a bit hesitant to Google them...
Replysluterella was a superhero on Comedy central
wait that was stripperella my confusion
Kudos for Cracked for that Spock picture. Upped my 'confused/aroused' levels to nuclear.
ReplyThe thing spock does with his fingers is actually from jewish culture. Which makes sence as to why it was the symbal of satan
ReplyExcept for the whole "Satans not real" thing
It's the symbol for a blessing bestowed by a cohen, a Jewish priest. And I hope that by your second sentence, you mean "and that's why, during the Middle Ages in which antisemitism was so common you needed a special word to indicate people who didn't hate Jews, Satan was depicted making the gesture in an obvious propaganda move to disseminate the idea that it was actually a Satanic thing."
Hard to believe how lame Batman might've been!
Replyfunnily enough I have that book first blood, but my dad or someone ripped out the last few pages for rolling joints so I never got to read the end. boo.
Reply(spoiler alert) In the climactic confrontation between Sheriff Teasle and Rambo, they're fairly evenly matched, with Rambo's combat experience being offset by his wounds, and Teasle's knowledge of the local terrain. They wound each other, and though Rambo is hurt worse than Teasle, Rambo manages to crawl off into an overgrown vacant lot. Here, Rambo prepares to commit suicide by detonating a stick of dynamite against his chest, but before he can light the fuse, he spots Teasle looking for him. Rambo uses his last strength to take a shot at Teasle, and mostly by dumb luck, hits Teasle, mortally wounding him. As Rambo's cursing the fact that he now has no strength left to set off the dynamite, he suddenly feels a different explosion and dies. As Teasle is bleeding out, Captain Trautman shows up carrying a pump-action shotgun and informs Teasle that he, Trautman, has just killed Rambo by shooting the top of his head off. Teasle has a few moments to contemplate the futility of the whole thing before he dies as well.
there is a ridiculous amount of female written erotic fan fics that feature spoc out there apparently...
ReplyMost of the erotic fan fics seem to be written by women
Spock was kept because opf sex appeal.
ReplySex appeal.
SEX APPEAL.
No.
Why.
Kirk implies that Spock looks like Satan in "The Apple." I bet they did that to make fun of NBC.
Reply"
Replysomething i should mention about Michael K Williams: after the Wire ended, he went on to play another awesome as f**k character in Boardwalk Empire: Chalky White
ReplyChaulky's so badass, gotdamn
I'd add Angel, who was in danger of being killed off during the first season of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer." Positive viewer response kept him alive, and just a few seasons later, he managed to become the star of his own series. And though some of you may disagree, he HAS become iconic for many fans like myself. Not Batman iconic, perhaps, but iconic nonetheless.
ReplyWasn't Spike supposed to disappear after being the big bad in season 2? Then even dying at the end of Buffy could stop him from returning to Angel, sheesh.
Muppet is correct Spike was only suppose to be there for a few episodes... but i didn't know about Angel... seems all the bad/good boys of Buffy couldn't die...
F*ck you, Cracked. Throughout my life, I have managed to stay hipster enough to avoid Star Trek. Now that picture wil haunt me until I become an insane trekkie fangirl, instead of a regular insane fangirl. Damn you to hell.
Reply Hide All See All 3 RepliesWhich one? The one of Ripped Spock, naked until just the very top of his pubic line? Or something else?
You mean... Spock can cure hipsters?
If you are the easily persuaded than you were probably a "trekkie fangirl" the whole time, you just didn't know it.
Without Batman we would of never seen the many death's of Robin
ReplySo, essentially, Batman got "Fingered."
ReplyJoin me in punnage!