5 Reasons Star Wars Sequels Would Be Worse Than The Prequels
If you grew up with the original Star Wars trilogy, you probalby went through a 15-year roller coaster that was something like this:
You wished desperately they would make more movies;
You groaned when you heard they were making prequels instead;
You bought a ticket out of cautious optimism;
You realized you were right the first time.
If only they'd made sequels instead, dammit! But here's the thing: they did. The story was continued in novels and comics and video games. Oh, and they were so terrible they actually do more damage to the source material than Jar Jar Binks could have ever hoped to.
We mean it. These are the stories that are guilty of...

As Seen In: The Thrawn Trilogy, X-Wing Series, Jedi Academy Trilogy and many more novels, comics and video games.
Everything had wrapped up nicely at the end of Return of the Jedi. We see the Imperial menace defeated over the forest moon of Endor by the likes of Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia, Han Solo, Chewbacca the Wookiee and Lando "The Last Black Man in the Galaxy" Calrissian.

He's a collector's item.
The Emperor's plan to recruit Luke to the dark side failed, and Darth Vader redeemed himself by dunking the raisin-faced bastard into the reactor core of the Death Star like Lebron James. Vader, electrocuted and hairless--and decidedly not James Earl Jones--died and the Death Star exploded, effectively wiping out the Sith, releasing their chokehold on the Galaxy and infuriating whoever was the lienholder on the destroyed battle station.

"Bank of America is going to be pissed."
Simultaneous celebrations were held on countless planets because evidently news travels fast through the infinite expanse of fucking space. Our heroes dance with some teddy bears and the credits roll.
Not So Fast...
In the unofficial "sequel" stories, this happens:

That is, the Empire keeps rolling right along, imposing space-tyranny on all who stand in their way.
And the thing is, it's hard to argue with the idea.
Neither the Emperor nor the Death Star had ever been a threat to the Rebellion, so, you know, fuck those first three movies. The Imperials had been able to control the Galaxy without a Death Star for a couple of decades, relying instead on fleet warfare and ground support for good old fashioned genocide. As for the Emperor, does killing the leader of a tyrannical government with a powerful and loyal army immediately end the entire conflict?

No.
According to the majority of the books and comics set after the original trilogy, with the Emperor gone, there were hundreds of Admirals, Generals and Politicians who vied for control of the Galaxy. Without a universally accepted leader, the Empire spiraled into a civil war.
The Rebellion is still, well, a Rebellion, which means it still has to gain victory over the remaining Imperials to win, who are in turn fighting amongst themselves. And so, the Skywalker family, which you may remember as being the entire point of the Star Wars saga, fades into the background as we watch the Rebels continue to fight two different Empires for 20 more years. During that time it's fair to assume billions more people died and trillions more words of poorly written dialog were spoken.

"George, I don't even know what this means..."
"You say what's on the page or I'm leaving you in the fucking desert."

As Seen In: The Dark Empire, Dark Empire II and Empire's End comic series.
Oh, hey, speaking of the dead Emperor, he is dead, right? After all, Darth Vader basically sacrificed himself to kill the man and wipe out this dark threat to The Force for all time.
Yes, that sure was a meaningful sacrifice Anakin made to redeem himself and save countless lives.
Not So Fast...
That is, until in the "sequel" stories Emperor Palpatine is brought back from the dead in a clone body that inexplicably looks like Buck Compton from Band of Brothers.

Or if Billy Zane and Val Kilmer collided at 200 mph.
Once more, you can see why they did it. You need a villain. And if George Lucas had written the sequel stories, it's hard to believe he wouldn't have done the same, after he contorted every prequel storyline to shoehorn in as many OT characters as he could.
In this storyline, Palpatine, secure in his new corporeal digs, proceeds to use a variety of nifty tactics that nearly annihilate the Rebels. The reasons why he waited until after his death to employ these tactics are beyond even the wisest of us.
To make things worse, Luke Skywalker, forgetting absolutely everything about his dad's story arc, thought the best way to deal with this threat was by becoming Palpatine's new apprentice. Although he tries to sabotage the Empire's efforts from the inside, he eventually succumbs to the Dark Side, presumably because the temptation of paid vacation and a dental plan proved to be too great.

He also does convention appearances
After Luke essentially becomes the Sega Genesis to Vader's Master System, Leia comes to her brother's rescue and eventually redeems him (you may remember this as the exact same plot of the original trilogy). Unfortunately it's already too late for most of the galaxy, as the Empire has already managed to decimate entire worlds without a Death Star and is within sight of total victory (evidently "total victory" means "killing every last motherfucker in space").
Palps is eventually killed by Empatojayos Brand, an ancient Jedi better known as Master Desperate Plot Device, thus ending the crisis and allowing the Dark Empire series to stop wasting our goddamn time.

"You mean we just retell the exact same story and sell it as a sequel? Brilliant! Pass the cocaine!"

As Seen In: Dark Empire, Dark Empire II, Empire's End, The Force Unleashed and pretty much every other piece of media.
Pretty much the entire point of the original trilogy was that Luke Skywalker, son of Darth Vader, is the last hope for the Jedi Order and the Galaxy. You know, the other Jedi having been ruthlessly hunted down and destroyed by the Empire and all.
The only exceptions are Obi Wan, whose force powers seem to have degenerated into keeping an immaculately trimmed beard in the middle of the desert, and Yoda, who seems to have gone so batshit insane that all he can do is talk like Super Grover in cryptic nonsensical jibber-jabber and lift shit out of bogs with his mind.

Seriously, we're amazed he didn't start playing the fucking spoons or something.
With only these three superpowered individuals left, the future of the Galaxy seems bleak.
Not So Fast...
One thing the good guys have to do to deal with the post-Death Star Empire is enlist the help of Jedi. Lots of them. In "sequel" comics like Dark Forces, much of the plot involves enlisting the help of these guys that are just hanging around in remote parts of the galaxy.
As it turns out, contrary to popular belief (a term which here means "what the films specifically told us in no uncertain terms"), the Jedi were not entirely wiped out but merely went into hiding. Again, we understand it's not Star Wars without Jedi and you can't wait for an army to be rebuilt from Luke and Leia's inbred children. The writers only had so many options.
But are we really to believe that these characters just sat on their fat asses, doing nothing to help while their Jedi brethren were getting thrown in the dumpster? That seems just a little out of character for the Galaxy's "Protectors of Freedom."

"Hey, we're on break."








I never thought I'd say this out loud, but G Canon makes the most sense of the entire Star Wars franchise. And G Canon makes no f*****g sense at all.
ReplyUnofficial = didn't happen.
ReplyWhen Ian McDonald writes a star wars book, I'll read it.
ReplyUntil then no real sci fi writers have ever done a good star wars book except for the thrawn trilogy and tales from the mos eisley cantina. You wan't good sci fi read River of Gods. It's perfection
If starwars was a child bioware would have got full custody years ago, as it is now they just get it on alternating weekends.
ReplyAnd they've started whoring it out too.
Credit where credit it due. At least the writer didn't b***h about Chewie being killed.
ReplyCompletely disagree. I think a lot of the novels were even better than the original trilogy. Thrawn was far superior in every way to every villain in the trilogy. Corran Horn, Jacen Solo, Anakin Solo, Kyp Durron, among others were much better protagonists than any in the original trilogy.
ReplyOf course with over 200 novels alone, there is going to be some crap that strains credibility. But the Thrawn trilogy, the X-wing series, Jedi academy/ I Jedi, The Courtship of Princess Leia, and The New Jedi Order were nothing short of exceptional.
Frankly, I wish The Thrawn Trilogy had been made instead of the original Star Wars trilogy. Imagine being able to put the Noghri on the big screen (at least with today's special effects).
Until Jacen Solo wen crazy decided he wanted to be Darth Caedus. I didn't even finish reading that crap.
I so agree in every sense. Yes, some of the storylines made Lucas' writing look worthy of the New York Times Bestseller list. But, like you said, with 200 novels, some are going to be junk. Some are written by solid, award-winning authors well established and well respected within the sci-fi community: Timothy Zahn, Kevin J. Anderson, R.A. Salvatore, Alan Dean Foster, and A.C. Crispin, just to name a few. I still remember reading Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy -- it blew me away. To ignore the good and focus only on the bad really isn't doing the series or the readers of this article any favors.
Am I the only one who thinks a civil war doesn't sound too bad?
ReplyBravo! I've never heard a single "extended universe" story that was any good.
Replyno mention of the yuuzhan vong?
ReplyIt IS out of character for the Jedi to sit around and do nothing while the Empire rules the Galaxy, but that's why those Jedi were still alive. The ones who were brave enough to stand against the Sith were all dead, for obvious reasons.
ReplySo instead of telling the exact same story as a sequel they did it as a prequel with less coherent plot and more annoying characters (seriously I would rather have an Ewok play Jar-Jar's role) and then pulled a reason for Anakin's fall out of their ass so he could become Vader.
ReplyYou'd be hard pressed to make the sequels suck more than the prequels.
Maybe it's all crap, but it can't make less sense than the prequels. Say what you want.
ReplyPff! The New Jedi Order series is the coolest story arc in the whole Star Wars chronology.
Reply Hide All See All 3 Replies"Traitor" in particular. I don't think they knew what to do with Jacen after that. It was too good.
I love "Traitor." Matthew Stover is awesome.
Traitor was perfect. Jacen was my favorite fictional character ever since I was 9 and YJK came out. To think of what they did to his character disgusts me. Had been reading star wars religiously for over a decade. Then they turned him into a sith. I haven't picked up a book since.
Does anyone else keep reading OT as "Old Testament?"
ReplyOh, thank G-d, I thought it was just me.
Original Trilogy, Old Testament, there's a difference? Either way, it was the original and had better stories than the sequel/prequel.
Isn't Reason #5 a reason against making Episode V? After all, making Episode V would undo the triumphant ending to Episode IV, so why make it?
ReplyI've only read the Heir to the Empire series, and this article did nothing to convince me that it wouldn't make a good series of films.
That's a great point! The Thrawn trilogy is incredible. I recommend the X-wing series next. The only character from the films to make a real appearance is Wedge and Stackpole does an incredible job getting you to fall in love with brand new characters.
You are missing the point on the novels with Grand Admiral Thrawn. He was Palpatine's failsafe in case anything happened. Thrawn was also a military genius and responsible for much of the Empire's strategy.
ReplyOf course, because Palpatine died doesn't mean every single officer of the Empire threw their hands up either. Throughout the 6 movies, the Sith have always used plots within plots within plots.
Undoing the end of ROTJ? So the emperor dies and the Death Star is destroyed; the death of a leader doesn't mean the end of the war. England didn't instantly submit to William II after Harold took a bolt to the neck at Hastings.
Reply"Why Didn't They Just Send The Liquid Metal Terminator The First Time"
Reply Hide All See All 4 RepliesBecause they didn't exist in the future the first time around. You gotta think about, like, time outside of time, man.
They have time travel technology. They can send the liquid metal guy back to whatever point in time they want, yet they chose to send him to a point in time after the first terminator failed. They could have sent him back to the same point in time as the first terminator, and have 2 terminators running around.
For example, suppose I have a time travel machine. On Tuesday, I travel back to Monday. There would be 2 copies of me on Monday: the Monday me, and the Tuesday me. And supposed I traveled back to Monday again on Wednesday. Then, there would be 3 copies of me on Monday.
Your argument only applies if the machine Skynet was using had a maximum range, thus rendering it unable to send the liquid metal terminator back that far. After all, it is uncertain how long it took to manufacture that terminator. For all we know, it could have taken Skynet several decades.
I wish to hell I could point out how completely wrong the other guy who commented on your post is, but there's no nested comments. Oh well.
basically, you can't send a terminator back in time to correct the other terminator's mistake until after he's made it. If you sent a second terminator LATER back with the other one, you would invalidate the need to send a second one at all, therefore causing a paradox that could destroy the entire space time continuum!
Of course that reaction is a little extreme. The damage might be limited to only our own galaxy /docbrown.
What PFCDoodles said. Also, at what point was it stated that the Skynet time machine doesn't have a maximum range? It could! It'd be kind of stupid if it did, but it still could.
Well, assuming Terminator time travel logic works exactly like you want...
This article is literally a misinformed piece of garbage. About the only thing that it gets right is how horrible the Dark Empire and Legacy comics are. BUT THEY ARE COMICS!
ReplyFor some reason you are degrading some of the best authors around...with no given reason
In fairness, that's basically what Cracked is. Whiney nitpicking about nerdy stuff.
The Legacy comics were awful and should never have been made. The characters are unlikeable Mary Sues, the dialogue is absolutely terrible, and Jan Duursema can't draw action scenes worth a shit. The only issues worth reading are the ones with Admiral Gar Stazi, and those are so few and far between that it's safe to say that Legacy is simply terrible.
ReplyI like how you completely neglected anything that takes place before Phantom Menace in the timeline, even though the cream of the crop is all back there in the KOTOR era. Good show.
Well said.