5 Superheroes Rendered Ridiculous by Gritty Reboots
Comic book characters get stale after a while. It's true, it happens. Peter Parker can't be an awkward high school student forever, right? We get that. We understand that, occasionally, the powers that be need to shake things up a little bit and change some stuff around to keep their characters fresh. Sometimes, like with the new gun-toting Captain America reboot, it's fucking awesome.
But other times, it's... well, this list.

The Character:
Equal parts Astro and Scooby Doo, Wonder Dog is the loyal, harmless sidekick to the Super Friends circa 1970.

The Plan:
"Let's slide Wonder Dog into a modern setting in Teen Titans. But let's make him edgy and tough, for teenagers! Scooby Doo is for babies!"
The Problem:
In case you're not immediately familiar with 1970s superheroes, we'll give you a crash course. The Super Friends were a conglomeration of superheroes and Wonder Dog was a dog. The poor man's Wonder Twins to Wonder Dog's poor man's Gleek came in the form of two kids named Marvin and Wendy, whose super powers included "taking care of Wonder Dog" and "not having any superpowers."

If the dog you're "taking care of" has superpowers, your only responsibility is cleaning up his shit.
Recently, the writers of Teen Titans decided to reintroduce Marvin and Wendy as the caretakers of the Titan's secret hideout: a giant building shaped like a T, (for "Titan." Or "Teen." Or "ReTarded."). Because no one wants to watch two irritating, non-fucking teenagers in a cartoon about superheroes, Wonder Dog was re-introduced as Marvin and Wendy's adorable pet.

Little known fact: "Muh muh" is the only sound one can make when faced with pants-shitting terror.
Now, if you compare this photo to the one above, clearly there are a few differences right off the bat. First, you can tell that Wendy's doing her nails differently, and that Marvin got rid of that awful haircut. Also, Wonder Dog turned into the Hound of the Fucking Baskervilles and ripped out Marvin's sternum, murdering him in the process. Apparently in this version, Wonder Dog was invented by an evil mastermind to use his adorable lovability to win his way into the hearts of the Teen Titans immediately before tearing them out.
This character reboot is a rare case that seems like it was brought on for absolutely no one. Who would want this? Nostalgia-loving fans of the original dog will be heartbroken to see a piece of their childhood distorted so profoundly, and the kids who actually read Teen Titans will be traumatized beyond pissing their pants. They'll have transcended straight on through to a new level of fear wherein they piss their own souls.
Why would anyone want that?

The Character:
Superman, arguably the most famous comic book character of all time, is an orphaned alien who stands for Truth, Justice and the American Way. He embodies an ideal man in his morals, dependability and convictions--the kind of person every American should strive to be like.
The Plan:
"It's the 90s and Superman's morals, dependability and convictions are starting to look dated. Let's sacrifice all of that for a badass and tough Superman that doesn't take any shit!"
The Bonus Plan:
"Also, let's give him a crazy beard so he looks like Santa!"

The Problem:
Oh, gosh, where to begin? Probably with the general creation of this story. As stated, it was the 90s when this comic was written. Alan Moore and Frank Miller's darker, grittier comics were already huge in America. Everyone was more inclined to damn The Man and less inclined to salute him, and so Superman's principles of justice and truth and whatnot were looking more and more old fashioned every day. Instead of stepping up to defend, you know, the law, the creators decided to toughen/crazy Superman up by moving him into the future. In a post-apocalyptic Gotham, where children are hunted by robots, Superman shows up angry and beardy and ready to fight. The robots were created by "The DNA Diktators," designed to wipe out the human race so we can start over. These Diktators have also taken to cloning the late Batman's DNA so, in addition to child-murdering robots, there are a bunch of evil Batman-clones flying around, and none of this is sitting too well with the newly re-vamped version of homeless Superman.

"A Superman," we wish he'd said.
So, Superman heads underground to track down the DNA Diktators and stop them, as the Man of Steel is wont to do. Spoiler alert: The DNA Diktators are twin clones of Hitler.

Not only did this comic decide to clone Hitler (twice), but they also decided to retcon American History by saying that these clones had been alive for hundreds of years and, as a result, WWII never officially ended.

It's actually sort of a powerful moment. Superman has a fairly strict no-killing policy, as that would interfere with his ironclad moral code, it's sort of what makes him who he is. On the other hand, it is the future and he's faced with two clones of arguably the most evil man on the planet, and also he has a beard. This is, we can say, the toughest and beardiest test of Superman's willpower. Will he stick to his code and turn the Hitlers over to the authorities to make sure that justice is done?

No. He finds the biggest most impractical gun in the world and shoots the piss out of them. Like, right out of them. And the shit frosting that tops off this abortion cake? He celebrates his victory against the Hitlers by retrieving Batman's corpse...

...and cremating himself.
Yep. No more Truth, Justice and the American way. The creators felt that Superman's moral, by-the-books boyscout routine was getting a little hokey, so they went ahead and violated everything that Superman stood for by having him grow a wicked beard, go shithouse-crazy on a couple of Hitlers and burn himself alive, and it was still one of the worst comics of all time.

The Character:
Tony Stark, the brilliant billionaire, is also Iron Man, the invincible super hero, which makes him more likely to get ass than you on no less than two levels.

The Plan:
"Let's get Iron Man out of crimefighting and into ridiculous bureaucratic political bullshit!"
The Problem:
What, the plan didn't tip you off? Alright, then let's start at the beginning. Regular comic-readers already know what we're about to say: Iron Man (the movie) was the best thing to happen to Iron Man (the comic) ever. Ever. Robert Downey, Jr. is a suave, quick-witted and charming son of a bitch; the kind of guy it's impossible not to like, and he brought a lot of that to Iron Man. If you didn't know any better, you just might think that Tony Stark was a likable, lady-killing badass.

But you do know better, don't you Comic Book Nerd?
To the comic-reading audience, Iron Man was always sort of a massive tool; a bland billionaire who built a super-suit because one day he decided he was bored of just spending his days sitting atop a giant pile of money with many beautiful women. He was Batman without any of Batman's cool edge or interesting flaws or troubling homoerotic undertones. Sure, he had his alcoholism, but that just sort of enhanced his dickishness. The folks behind Marvel needed something more. So gradually, they started shifting Iron Man's priorities away from supervillains and towards international affairs. He held a political office, ignored supervillains and had entire comics where he just sat around talking to Professor X and Dr. Strange.

Stark's political arc hit a fever pitch in the Marvel crossover event Civil War, which involved a new law that required superheroes to register themselves, including their secret identities, or face the consequences. Iron Man, not content with the level of dickishness inherent to being born into wealth, decided to head up the task force charged with apprehending superheroes who refused to reveal their secret identities--willingly. He chased down his former friends and tried to arrest them on the grounds that they were bad for America even if the guy he was arresting was, for example, Captain America. But he didn't do it alone, he created and hired The Thunderbolts, a group that was exclusively made up of supervillains that lived in a hollowed out mountain with their own personal army. And since that wasn't nearly insane enough, he made Norman Osborn (the Green Goblin) their overseer. It went about as well as you would expect.

It gets worse. Once Tony and his army of hired supervillains rounded the heroes up, guess where he put them. Prison? No. Protection? Nope. He permanently interred them in an extra-dimensional concentration camp in "The Negative Zone," a dimension of infinite evil revolving around the Giant Vortex of Doom. No trial, no bail, no chance of ever leaving, which makes Iron Man sort of like Hitler, but in a giant metal suit.
And this comic was done because the old Iron Man was so bland and boring and, apparently, un-Hitler-like.








I take it nobody remembers that the main DCU (ie not elseworlds) has killed 3 people in the past, not even killed, executed as they were restrained
ReplyAs much disdain as I have for the character of Tony Stark as a person, he wasn't the "bad guy" in the Civil War.
ReplyTony Stark has always been the Lando Calrissian of marvel (a smooth-talking, successful businessman who's logical way of acting can cause him to cross a moral line; mustache), but Tony Stark helped pass the SRA in order to prevent the government from using sentinels to hunt down superhumans and put them into concentration camps. So, Iron Man actually prevented a second holocaust (not very Hitler-like).
That's the best part of Marvel's Civil War story arc; it's security vs liberty, logic vs morals, good vs good, there were no "bad guys".
P.S. The Illuminati comics were great.
I'm not sure if you read Ironman comics or Civil War, but Ironman is a character you love to hate. He's not a bad guy, so you sympathise with him a bit, but he is meant to come off as a bit of a douche.
ReplyThe movie did try to show that, and the lack of that factor is what made Ironman such a shit-show.
In Civil War Ironman has real problems dealing with the consequences of his actions (killing Captain America right after destroying their friendship, losing the trust of the superhero community) and that is what makes it interesting. He has a really hard time dealing with these things, and almost turns back to the bottle. That makes him human, not just some one sided "lady killing badass."
Ironman being a nice guy and having everything going well for him is really boring, and without all of his character flaws he becomes quite one dimensional. Its his misgivings about what he's doing that makes you sympathise with him, and frankly I have a much harder time sympathizing with a person who's life is perfect and is perfect than a guy with real problems who can't deal with them.
My son and I were playing a video game where Penance's origin is covered. That was a really weird conversation...
ReplyI have to know
what game?
probably marvel ultimate alliance 2
Is it just me, or is it always the same people who say, "comics are WAY too one dimensional." that are the first to say, "How DARE:"
Reply"...Penance react to the accidental death of hundreds of innocents with anything other than what Spider-Man would do???"
"...Spider-Man become depressed when he gets to the point in his life that he has lost everything, and sacrificed everything he had for everyone... Where's the one liners???"
".. Tony Stark respond to a brewing crisis that could endanger all of the superheroes by enforcing a law passed through congress, and trying to get his friends, and young heroes to get the proper TRAINING that could have prevented the Stamford incident. And now all the registered heroes have medical (pretty useful if you always fight villains trying to kill you). And anytime a superhero fight destroys a house of one of the regular folks, now the home owners can be COMPENSATED. What a NAZI!!!"
And, it is always THESE people, that want to see Spider-Man stay static (happy go lucky), or Iron Man continue to make the same golden age inspired decisions, or Speedball get "over it" right away that praise something like "The Walking Dead" for the fact that it has people making the best decisions they can in the horrible situation they are in.. And they are right! That is what makes TWD so amazing. But, apply it to Superhero comics and it is ruining the genre?
Civil War existed to make you think about the situation, and decide who you agreed with. And while some of the writers of CW portrayed Iron Man as heartless, the vein that ran through it all was that he saw how bad things had gotten, and how much worse they could get. In trying to do the "right thing" in his opinion, he made horrible decisions. I thought making comic fans really think from the street level nobody in the Marvel Universe, and try to see how THEY would feel about it was a great move. But, I guess there were too many things designed to make you think in it and not enough fisticuffs and virtue.
Look, it is the highly cynical approach we talk about stories that scares off new readers and is killing the industry. It's ok to not like something, but don't make all of us sound like we are just here to nitpick everything to death and run down every story arc that doesn't jibe with what we THINK should happen. When did more than half (Citation needed) of comic fans out there become the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons?
I agree except for one point: Spider-man needs to keep his humor. That's his thing, that's what made him my favorite hero as a kid. No matter how much he got shat on he would man up, do what needed to be done and try his damndest to inject some levity into the situation.
There was a crossover that had Spider-man and Batman working together against Carnage and the Joker (I only realize how awesome that is now that I've typed it). At one point, Carnage tells Joker about how much he admires him, because he gets the joke: life is meaningless in the long run.
The thing is, I always felt that Spider-Man always got that joke and took it in the other direction. Whereas Carnage (and other villains) took the "what I do to other people doesn't matter, because it's all meaningless" route, Spider-Man looked at it and said "what happens to me doesn't matter, as long as it's in the course of promoting what I believe to be a worthy meaning".
That's why I always held Spider-Man as my favorite super hero. It's just too damn easy to say "fuck it" and lay waste to everyone you feel is deserving or wrong. It's takes way more discipline and strength (as well as insight) to approach those who you fight with a sense of compassion. Compassion = to suffer with; Spidey's had to deal with the temptation to kill on numerous occasions.
It was always fairly obvious that Spider-man's cornball humor was his way of lightening his own load...to approach things with the same "doesn't matter" mindset that Carnage later came to embody on the other side of the spectrum.
About your first paragraph, I'd say yes, it is just you.
Except for the Superman one, a lot of these "reboots" aren't that bad.
Reply#1, #2 and #3 were actually great.
ReplyPenance actually looks pretty cool..
ReplyReminds me why I quit reading them in the late 90s
Replyamazing how not a one of these things were reboots.
Reply Hide All See All 3 RepliesWhat's This?!? An internet comedy writer using vaguely-defined entertainment industry jargon in a way that's not quite technically correct?!? This looks like a job for Pointless Semantics Man and his trusty sidekick, Hairsplitter!
Man, that sounds like just about the worst gritty reboot idea for Pedantic Commenter I've ever heard!
no hes right (kinda) a couple of these were actually what ifs or elseworlds so not reboots
At Earth's End was an Elseworld, NOT a reboot. And the whole pojnt of DC's Elseworlds was to take classic characters and put them into completely weird and different scenarios. DC Tagline: "In Elseworlds, heroes are taken from their usual settings and put into strange times and places — some that have existed, and others that can't, couldn't or shouldn't exist". Point missed.
ReplyAnd thy wonder why Comic Book Nerds get bent out of shape.
We know. We don't care. Shut up.
really? cos if u liked comics enough to know then you would care thus your comment just comes across as flippant
Say what you will, I thought Penance was a good character.
ReplyWell i always take reboots as what they are, reboots. If they're any good, great! if they're not, great i'll go back the comic i really like.
ReplyIt saddens me that all the defenders of the Civil War comics are trolls &/or stupid. Civil War was a good story, but the individual character's stories (Wolverine, Black Panther, X-Men, those kinds of things) were far better than the whole 7 issue book.
ReplyI actually did think the radioactive semen thing worked for Spider-man: Reign; it was the perfect poignant reveal that Peter didn't just get the women he loved killed, he killed her himself - with his love.
ReplyThat said, if they try and bring that into the non-Elseworlds comics, s**t will get real.
It seems more like he killed her with his sperm and/or dick
erm...they kinda did wasnt that the reason MJ got sick when she was pregnant...been a while since i read the clone saga so i could be wrong
I'd probably vote for Iron Man.
ReplyActually, The Dimensional Limbo of the N-Zone is supposed to be a corollary of the Legal Limbo of Guantanamo Bay - y'know, a place where Americans locked up people with 'No trial, no bail, no chance of ever leaving.'
Reply Hide All See All 3 Replies...Still think he's a 'Hitler'?
... YES!
Yes. Bush was just another Hitler-wannabe using fear to control people. Doesn't make Tony Stark any less Hitler-y.
"Corollary?" I think you mean "allegory." And yeah, Gitmo, Belsen, same basic idea.
The Civil War storyline fucked up the Marvel Universe, as did the Ultimate versions of Spiderman and X-men. Spiderman Reign fucked up the Spiderman series, and by extension, the Marvel Universe even more. Marvel should start over like DC did with The New 52. Spawn should be rebooted, without the s****y Wican angle that ruined the awesomeness of the Spawn series.
ReplyI disagree that DC rebooted its entire universe with "The New 52." At best it was a partial reboot, with some series (Superman) completely rebooting, some having their continuity changed (Batgirl) and others (Green Lantern) not rebooting at all. I would rather that DC had completely wiped out everything and start everything over from scratch, it would have been far less confusing.
@SaluFan I would rather DC just make good comics, instead of rebooting every 5-7 years because they can't stop f*****g up.
Penance was well-written though. And he has 612(note sure if the number is right) spikes in the suit cause that is how many people died in the Stamford incident. Spider-man Reign was a damn good story also...
ReplyPenance was awesome though :/
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